Folding knife is checked a few times a week as Mrs. CMO orders Amazon and I use this to cut the box b4 putting into the trash bin.

If that knife is your EDC general purpose knife, ok. If that is your EDC SD knife, you shouldn't use it to cut anything except to test sharpness.  I like to keep my SD knife hair popping sharp. I keep a small folder with a 1.5 inch blade on  my key ring to open packages and other tasks while on the road.

If that knife is your EDC general purpose knife, ok. If that is your EDC SD knife, you shouldn't use it to cut anything except to test sharpness.  I like to keep my SD knife hair popping sharp. I keep a small folder with a 1.5 inch blade on  my key ring to open packages and other tasks while on the road.

You wanna know my secret....theyre always sharp. -Bruce Banner.

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55 days and counting. 😑 they’re moving like the dmv.

106 days and counting. 😑

106 days and counting. 😑

Did you call to follow up?  If yes, post details and hope you got more than a "we're working on it".

Permits will be distributed 

Did you call to follow up?  If yes, post details and hope you got more than a "we're working on it".

That’s exactly the response given from Susie. With a “please be patient” added. They have no idea where it’s at in the process either. A captain also called back also and had no info too, just asking to be patient. That was a useless callback. If you add in the time since first application after bruen, it’s over 8 months.

Bill 57 was signed into ordinance and will take effective 5/1. How will this affect CCW holders?  below are some examples from people I've talked to.  I'm not a lawyer, so read the below at your own risk.  But lets have a discussion.  Correct as needed.

First there are 2 types of location bans.

1) Sensitive places-Specific locations that have no exceptions for regular CCW holders

2) Business establishment-Can get express consent (permission)  from them to CCW


Chiropractor, primary care physician, dentist, etc...-This is a sensitive place as it provides a health service. So no exceptions.

Gym-This is a commodity and not a "retail establishment" that falls under "business establishment" portion. ROH 21-10.1 under "Amusement and Recreation Facilities, Indoor. Establishments providing indoor amusement or recreation. Typical uses include: martial arts studios; billiard and pool halls; electronic and coin-operated game rooms; bowling alleys; skating rinks; reducing salon, health and fitness establishments; indoor tennis, handball, and racquetball courts; auditoriums, indoor archery, and shooting ranges; and gymnasiums and gymnastic schools." But still falls under #3 "commercial establishment" for a business establishment.

Food places-"Restaurant. Any retail eating establishment where food is served or provided for on-site consumption by seated patrons that is authorized by the State department of health to operate as a food establishment, including any private food establishment or club in which only members or their guests are permitted, but excluding a “bar.” If a restaurant includes an area devoted to the serving of alcoholic beverages, that area shall be deemed part of the restaurant, not a separate “bar,” for this article. An establishment that is a restaurant shall have that status for all hours of operation." But still falls under #3 "commercial establishment" for a business establishment.

So you need permission. 

 Also "food court" is a separate definition and does not need authorization from the State Department of Health.  So not a business establishment.  But still falls under #3 "commercial establishment" for a business establishment.

Under 21-10.1 "retail establishment" is defined and includes: " This term also includes establishments where food or drink is sold on the premises for immediate consumption, but which lack appropriate accommodations for on-premise eating and drinking." So a place like W&M that has zero seating, but you can still immediately consume the burger would fall under this.  So this is a business establishment and needs permission.

https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/honolulu/latest/honolulu/0-0-0-41009


Airport-Sensitive place. Includes "non secure areas". So if you drop off or pick someone up. No exceptions

Public transportation-Sensitive place.  The Bus or Handivan.

#3 "commercial establishment" covers basically everywhere.

KORE Essentials dress belt

I got the ratchet type system instead of the normal 5 holes.  At first, I wasn't a fan as I like the traditional belt holes.  But for CCW, being able to adjust 2 milimeters at a time makes a HUGE difference. Compare this to a 5 hole belt where it's 1 inch adjustments.

https://www.koreessentials.com/products/x1-gun-buckle-black-reinforced-belt-set-1

KORE Essentials dress belt

I got the ratchet type system instead of the normal 5 holes.  At first, I wasn't a fan as I like the traditional belt holes.  But for CCW, being able to adjust 2 milimeters at a time makes a HUGE difference. Compare this to a 5 hole belt where it's 1 inch adjustments.

https://www.koreessentials.com/products/x1-gun-buckle-black-reinforced-belt-set-1

Nice.

Some concealed carry belt makers offer a choice to add more holes closer together, to get a more custom fit. 

Mine from The Belt Man has 7 holes set 3/4" apart.

FYI.

 

Nice.

Some concealed carry belt makers offer a choice to add more holes closer together, to get a more custom fit. 

Mine from The Belt Man has 7 holes set 3/4" apart.

FYI.

 

Sometimes a few mm makes a huge difference. InB4 that's what she said.

Has anyone been notified via certified mail that their permit is approved?

Got my notification on Friday. 

So what do all you guys with permits plan to do starting tomorrow? Seems like it is impossible NOT  to break the law during the course of most people's normal day.

So what do all you guys with permits plan to do starting tomorrow? Seems like it is impossible NOT  to break the law during the course of most people's normal day.

i'm still going to continue to carry during my daily routine. just in some places i won't carry since i don't have to

So what do all you guys with permits plan to do starting tomorrow? Seems like it is impossible NOT  to break the law during the course of most people's normal day.

I have express consent from most of the places i go to on a regular basis. Began working on this a month ago as many corporate establishments, u have to go thru mainland corporate.

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I have express consent from most of the places i go to on a regular basis. Began working on this a month ago as many corporate establishments, u have to go thru mainland corporate.

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Smart move, planning ahead. Other than MAYBE a gun store, no one is going to put up a GUNS ALLOWED sign.
My friend is a regular at the HiKai Starbucks. He saw a cop come in and immediately went to the manger and told him you have a no guns policy
and he wanted that cop to leave or take off his gun while inside.  The manager told the cop to please wait outside and he will come take and bring him his order.

Smart move, planning ahead. Other than MAYBE a gun store, no one is going to put up a GUNS ALLOWED sign.
My friend is a regular at the HiKai Starbucks. He saw a cop come in and immediately went to the manger and told him you have a no guns policy
and he wanted that cop to leave or take off his gun while inside.  The manager told the cop to please wait outside and he will come take and bring him his order.

Sbux must have a  no guns policy that has no exceptions. But the ordinance does exclude police. So it's the businesses decision to kick them out.  I asked Target and Target has a no guns policy that doesn't exclude armored car, of which need PERMISSION to be on property, if they use them.  So I will email them to either not allow them or even if the manager gives permission, they would be violating corporate policy. 

Thanks to sensitive places, things like this needs to be clarified.

Gun stores who don't have a guns allowed sign will have to give verbal permission to everyone who's also buying a gun. Because that gun  is now in a case that is concealed.  If no permission is granted, then every gun purchaser will be in violation of the ordinance.  And a gun store falls under "retail establishment".  Personally, I would not shop at a gun store that doesn't allow CCW or has a no CCW allowed sign.

You have a list of stores you got permission?  Written or oral?   Maybe we make a large list with proof of each place so we all don't have to do it one by one?  Would that work?

Combo of both.  But the issue may be that the mom n pop places gave me permission as I am a regular and IDK if that applies to others.  I didn't ask.

What you should do and what everyone should do is if you're wondering about a big company, go to their company website and look for their corporate policy.  Many times you will find your answer there.  And if you cannot, email them to ask.  This way you have documentation of the permission, instead of just a verbal.  Which is 1 reason why HPD opposed this bill, it's almost impossible to enforce.  1 employee gives the Ok and another could say no.  Versus a sign on the door that says "no guns allowed".

If they have no corporate policy online, then email them to find out. 

As I read the ordinance, businesses still have to post a sign to allow carry.  I don’t see an option for verbal permission without having a sign posted…?

As I read the ordinance, businesses still have to post a sign to allow carry.  I don’t see an option for verbal permission without having a sign posted…?

No business is going to post a guns allowed sign. They would be afraid of getting sued if someone got shot.  If I had a physical place of business open to the public I would have no signs for or against guns.