Official Hawaii CCW Thread (Read 84874 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #140 on: June 08, 2023, 08:46:33 AM »
Should we still apply for ccw in oahu?

Yes.  If you need a why, LMK and I'll post more.

glockfanboy808

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #141 on: June 08, 2023, 08:56:22 AM »
Yes.  If you need a why, LMK and I'll post more.

Yes, if it’s not too much trouble. Thank you.

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #142 on: June 08, 2023, 09:18:54 AM »
Yes, if it’s not too much trouble. Thank you.

1) If not many apply, then lawmakers will use lack of demand to push even more laws. "no one really wants it" or "this new law would only affect a small percent".  Which we are seeing now as there are only 1000 applicants of which, some are duplicates due to multiple guns.  Over the years, I've heard many complain about CCW and some haven't even bothered because "it's too humbug" or "no can carry anywhere with sensitive places anyways" or "it's only for 1 year and too humbug".

2) When a lawsuit is filed or needs plaintiffs, being a current CCW holder would be required.  Or if an injunction is issued, it would apply to CCW holders/plantiffs only.

3) By having a CCW, you're sticking it to HI's anti 2a lawmakers and the chiefs who've denied CCW for decades. It's the principal of the matter

4) Bragging rights

5) What if you needed it and didn't apply/have it.  The thought would be in the back of your head, "damn, I wish I had my CCW". Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it saying comes to mind.

6) FREEDOM, well some freedom anyways due to sensitive places.

Rocky

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #143 on: June 08, 2023, 04:21:21 PM »
1) If not many apply, then lawmakers will use lack of demand to push even more laws. "no one really wants it" or "this new law would only affect a small percent".  Which we are seeing now as there are only 1000 applicants of which, some are duplicates due to multiple guns.  Over the years, I've heard many complain about CCW and some haven't even bothered because "it's too humbug" or "no can carry anywhere with sensitive places anyways" or "it's only for 1 year and too humbug".

2) When a lawsuit is filed or needs plaintiffs, being a current CCW holder would be required.  Or if an injunction is issued, it would apply to CCW holders/plantiffs only.

3) By having a CCW, you're sticking it to HI's anti 2a lawmakers and the chiefs who've denied CCW for decades. It's the principal of the matter

4) Bragging rights

5) What if you needed it and didn't apply/have it.  The thought would be in the back of your head, "damn, I wish I had my CCW". Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it saying comes to mind.

6) FREEDOM, well some freedom anyways due to sensitive places.

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changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #144 on: June 08, 2023, 06:14:32 PM »
+ new rules for LTC come  January 1, 2024  :shake:
4 year ccw. But i dont expect anyone to get the new ccw until june. Which makes just over a year the c&c sensitive places took effect.

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theJanitor

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #145 on: June 21, 2023, 01:38:54 PM »
Do you have to apply in the county you reside in?

also, can anyone confirm that notification of the license comes through certified mail, that needs to be signed for?

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #146 on: June 22, 2023, 09:41:33 AM »
Do you have to apply in the county you reside in?

also, can anyone confirm that notification of the license comes through certified mail, that needs to be signed for?

No, you can apply and get for any county as long as you're a HI resident.  IDK if this changes on 1/24; I haven't read into it yet. I'm more focused on senstive places portion.

For Oahu COunty, it comes via cert mail that someone has to sign for. However, you don't have to bring the letter to HPD.  So in theory, if you have USPS notification and are not expecting any other letter from the C&C, then you might be able to assume this is your approval letter.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #147 on: June 22, 2023, 11:24:32 AM »
No, you can apply and get for any county as long as you're a HI resident.  IDK if this changes on 1/24; I haven't read into it yet. I'm more focused on senstive places portion.

For Oahu COunty, it comes via cert mail that someone has to sign for. However, you don't have to bring the letter to HPD.  So in theory, if you have USPS notification and are not expecting any other letter from the C&C, then you might be able to assume this is your approval letter.

To be more specific, you need to apply in the county/counties you expect to carry in.  So, if you live on Maui and commute weekly to Oahu for work, you should apply in both Maui and Honolulu counties. 

p.s.  When did Oahu become a county? 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #148 on: June 22, 2023, 11:53:35 AM »
To be more specific, you need to apply in the county/counties you expect to carry in.  So, if you live on Maui and commute weekly to Oahu for work, you should apply in both Maui and Honolulu counties. 

p.s.  When did Oahu become a county?

No focus. Honolulu county.  At least I spelled it correctly and didn't type country.  :rofl:

I know 1 guy who applied for multiple counties and lives on Oahu.  But didn't apply for Honolulu county.

theJanitor

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #149 on: June 23, 2023, 02:13:12 PM »
any permit issued is recognized statewide, right?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #150 on: June 23, 2023, 02:40:32 PM »
any permit issued is recognized statewide, right?

Wrong.

Quote
§134-9  Licenses to carry.  (a)  In an exceptional case, when an applicant shows reason to
fear injury to the applicant's person or property, the chief of police of the appropriate county
may grant a license to an applicant who is a citizen of the United States of the age of twenty-
one years or more or to a duly accredited official representative of a foreign nation of the age
of twenty-one years or more to carry a pistol or revolver and ammunition therefor concealed
on the person within the county where the license is granted.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0009.htm
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

theJanitor

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #151 on: June 23, 2023, 02:56:25 PM »
Wrong.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0009.htm

OK.  Thanks.  I saw in the earlier versions of SB1230, it was going to be recognized statewide

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #152 on: June 23, 2023, 03:15:49 PM »
OK.  Thanks.  I saw in the earlier versions of SB1230, it was going to be recognized statewide

SB1230 SD2 says:
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SECTION 7.  Section 134-9, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended to read as follows:

     "§134-9  Licenses to carry.  (a)  [In an exceptional case, when an applicant shows reason to fear injury to the applicant's person or property, the] The chief of police of the appropriate county [may] shall grant a license to an applicant who is a [citizen of the United States of the age of twenty-one years or more or to a duly accredited official representative of a foreign nation] resident of the State of the age of twenty-one years or more to carry a pistol or revolver and ammunition therefor concealed on the person within the county where the license is granted[.] upon determination by the chief of police that the applicant meets all the requirements set forth in this section.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2023/bills/SB1230_SD2_.HTM

 :shaka:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

theJanitor

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #153 on: June 23, 2023, 03:22:01 PM »
SB1230 SD2 says:https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2023/bills/SB1230_SD2_.HTM

 :shaka:

this is what I saw in SB1230_CD1_ pdf.   I guess they realized there was too much freedom in that paragraph

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #154 on: June 23, 2023, 03:28:01 PM »
this is what I saw in SB1230_CD1_ pdf.   I guess they realized there was too much freedom in that paragraph



Our state will likely be sued to make the licenses valid in all counties, but they fully intend to stop everyone from carrying as much as possible.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #155 on: June 23, 2023, 06:49:48 PM »
I was able to put into SB1230 a four year statewide license, which will start on Jan 1 2024.

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #156 on: July 10, 2023, 09:17:03 AM »
With baby coming soon, I have decided to buy a dedicated fanny pack for CCW. This is because the baby carrier would get in the way of AIWB and my shirt may lift up if I'm CCWing at the 4 oclock, and the strap for the carrier runs around my waisteline.

Here's another $200 spent on more gear. But still haven't really shot since range closed, so saving more than that much in ammo a month. So g2g.

theJanitor

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #157 on: July 14, 2023, 11:29:24 AM »
Has anyone got a license approved recently?

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #158 on: July 14, 2023, 12:08:43 PM »
Someone who submitted their complaint to the commission did. He got a call first that his complaint was received, followed by his approval letter 2 weeks later.

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #159 on: July 17, 2023, 11:13:50 AM »
At least 2 Foodland locations have removed their "no guns allowed" signage. I'm pretty sure this is due to their new corp policy about signage.