Oahu is an island (honolulu county), not a state. This matters because ur ccw permit is only valid in the county u got it in and not valid state wide.

So u can only carry on the public sidewalk. Everywhere else requires permission. This is sb1230 specific, and not going into places to keep law.



So if I wanted to carry at a friends house. I would have to ask permission?
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So if I wanted to carry at a friends house. I would have to ask permission?

SB 1230

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2023/bills/SB1230_CD1_.HTM

Now officially known as “Act 052” since it got signed.

Also says if you take a handgun you don’t have an LTC for, between any of the good old authorized places, it now must be in a LOCKED container.

Now officially known as “Act 052” since it got signed.

Also says if you take a handgun you don’t have an LTC for, between any of the good old authorized places, it now must be in a LOCKED container.

It's if you leave the gun unattended in the car, locked and out of sight.  Like if you stop at a gun store or use the bathroom on the way to the range.

If you are with the gun the whole time, it doesn't have to be locked.

Sadly, not true. It modifies §134-25, the “Place to keep pistol or revolver; penalty” part that applies to any transportation not under your LTC (like going to the range, bringing your new blaster home from the shop, bringing it to HPD to register, etc.). It strikes the word “enclosed” and replaces it with “locked.”

It also adds a definition of “locked container.”

From the Act:

“[134-25] Place to keep pistol or revolver; penalty.  (a)  Except as provided in sections 134-5 and 134-9, all firearms shall be confined to the possessor's place of business, residence, or sojourn; provided that it shall be lawful to carry unloaded firearms in [an enclosed] a locked container from the place of purchase to the purchaser's place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places upon change of place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places and the following:
     (1)  A place of repair;

     (2)  A target range;

     (3)  A licensed dealer's place of business;

     (4)  An organized, scheduled firearms show or exhibit;

     (5)  A place of formal hunter or firearm use training or instruction; or

     (6)  A police station.“

“‘Locked container’ means a secure container that is fully enclosed, capable of preventing an unauthorized person from obtaining access to or possession of the firearm contained therein, and locked by a padlock, keylock, keypad, combination lock, or similar locking device.  The term "locked container" does not include the trunk or the utility or glove compartment of a motor vehicle.”

Class B felony if you don’t…

You're looking at the old version of the bill.  The proposal above was removed from the final bill by Rep Tarnas after the crossover.  There is no mention of "place to keep" in the final bill.  Therefore locked containers only apply to firearms left unattended.

Final bill
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2023/bills/SB12   30_CD1_.HTM

It is still good practice to abide by the locked container law as you never know when you have to leave the firearm unattended in a vehicle for whatever unexpected reason.

Whew.

You know, it would be a lot less confusing if they’d just update the online f-ing HRS…

Anybody know the going rates on the just getting the proficiency  test done for renewal or a new gun.  I already passed the written/lecture course and wanted to add a new firearm for me to carry legally. Thanks

I would say all renewals are on pause since the requirements are changing on 1/1/24.  If HPD does things like how they've already done, any renewal submitted prior to the end of the year and it isn't issued, will be on hold until the new requirements are met.  I'm going to assume they won't be in a rush to issue the renewal.

so you're guessing
got it...

Info that supports my guess.

1) WHen Bruen was annouced, hundreds of people applied. The chief could have issued CCW's under the current rules. But instead decided let the rules change and wait until then.  This took months.  During this wait, all apps were on hold.

2) Once the NEW rules were established, letters went out giving people 60 days (?) to complete the additional requirements.  And anyone who didn't was denied.

On 1/1/24, there was an additional requirement for the CCW course.  This would mean anyone who took the old requirements and have their apps pending, may be told what I posted because HPD has already done this in June when Bruen was announced.

3) There is no law on how long HPD must approve applicants.  On 1/1/24 there is a law that is an automatic denied if it takes longer than 120 days.  No automatic approval like if NICS takes long to come back.  Which is why i posted above about HPD not being in a rush.

4) We have seen applicants take on average 4-5 months to be approved under the current process.

But again, despite all the above actually happening, I am guessing on what will happen.

so you're assuming
got it...

For the 2nd time, yes.

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please show me where i said "assuming" twice...