Idaho wants to allow death penalty by firing squad.
The reason cited is lack of drugs.
How ironic that people are croaking every day from fentanyl without even trying.
Naysayers say it's cruel and unusual punishment.
I say it shouldn't matter, and just the thought may be a deterrent to criminal behavior.
Sounds like a win-win situation to me.

https://www.aol.com/idaho-lawmakers-approve-bill-could-223724490.html

I heard some of those lethal injection drugs are like slow torture. Firing squad would be preferable in that case.

https://theconversation.com/why-the-guillotine-may-be-less-cruel-than-execution-by-slow-poisoning-121034

I heard some of those lethal injection drugs are like slow torture. Firing squad would be preferable in that case.

https://theconversation.com/why-the-guillotine-may-be-less-cruel-than-execution-by-slow-poisoning-121034

The use of drugs for execution is accepted as more humane than the alternatives.  One thing the anti-death-penalty advocates point to is the use of corrections officers administering the drug cocktail.  They aren't trained in making sure the prisoner receives enough of the sedatives before the potassium chloride to stop the heart.  It's been said there have been individuals who were still conscious when their hearts stopped, which they equate to torture.

The drugs cause a quick death, so it's not that cruel.  And if everything works as designed, the prisoner is first sedated, then paralyzed, and finally no longer breathing.

It's not a simple solution to replace corrections personnel with trained medical professionals, either. Doctors have an ethical and moral duty to which they swear an oath to first do no harm.  I think most licensed doctors would have a problem participating in an execution.  I know they normally have a doctor there to monitor vitals and declare the prisoner deceased, but that doesn't involve participating in the execution itself.

Gary Gilmore, who was found guilty of a double murder in Utah, choose firing squad over hanging -- the only available alternative in Utah.  But that's not the most significant thing about his execution.  He was the first person to be executed in the United States since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976.  Opponents of the death penalty protested, filed motions to block it, and even said he was insane.  They argued that no sane person would want to die, and the state can't execute anyone who's insane.  Gilmore didn't even want a trial at first, but the state mandated one since it was a capital case.

In 1972, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, in violation of the eighth Amendment
to the Constitution, the death penalty qualified as “cruel and unusual punishment,”
primarily because states used capital punishment in “arbitrary and capricious ways,”
especially in regard to race. However, in 1976, with 66 percent of Americans
supporting the death penalty, the court ended the constitutional ban on capital
punishment, provided that states create specific guidelines for imposing death
sentences.

In 1977, Gilmore was the first person to be executed since the end of the ban.
Defiantly facing a firing squad, Gilmore’s last words to his executioners before
they shot him through the heart were “Let’s do it.”

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-execution-of-gary-gilmore

BTW, hangings and public beheadings are still the primary means of execution in many countries that still have the death penalty.

I'm gonna catch a lot of flak for this but........ainokea.

I say death by 22 LR.

Start with one in each knee.

Then couple in the groin.

2 or 3 in the gut.

Reload.  Take your time.

Then one in each elbow.  Followed by one in each shoulder.

Then purposely miss, an inch or less to each side of the head.  Continue until need to reload.

Reload.  Take your time.

Then mag dump in the head.  Option:  Put one in each eye.  Then mag dump.

I say this because when I think of the victims, I cry.  A lot.  F**k that humane drugs crap.

I'm gonna catch a lot of flak for this but........ainokea.

I say death by 22 LR.

Start with one in each knee.

Then couple in the groin.

2 or 3 in the gut.

Reload.  Take your time.

Then one in each elbow.  Followed by one in each shoulder.

Then purposely miss, an inch or less to each side of the head.  Continue until need to reload.

Reload.  Take your time.

Then mag dump in the head.  Option:  Put one in each eye.  Then mag dump.

I say this because when I think of the victims, I cry.  A lot.  F**k that humane drugs crap.

There's a school of thought that death is too humane a punishment for certain crimes.  Keeping them in an isolated cell for possibly decades before they die is a better punishment.

It's kind of hypocritical.  They argue against the death penalty as cruel and unusual punishment, but they also want to prolong the criminal's life so they can suffer year after year after year.  Humane execution vs. torture for the rest of your life.

Everything is relative, including what constitutes overly cruel punishment.  It all depends on your perspective.

For heinous crimes, or people who kill preteen kids, it should be mandatory.
Life in prison doesn’t seem to be a deterrent so might as well try something else.

The thing about firing squad it was always hard to find people to do it!

The thing about firing squad it was always hard to find people to do it!

"Hey there, son. How would you like a quick job for low pay guaranteed to give you nightmares for the rest of your life?"

The thing about firing squad it was always hard to find people to do it!

I don't think that's any more true than it is of trying to get corrections officers to perform the duties for execution by any other means:  electric chair, hanging or lethal injection.

Some firing squads will load a single rifle with a blank cartridge, so they all can be less affected thinking they might not have actually fired the fatal shot.

Regardless of the method used, there's going to be a downside.

If you make it too painless and sanitary, the fear of being executed becomes less of a deterrent and the act itself less of a punishment.  I've always thought executions should be televised so there's no debate on the process itself.  Everyone would know what it is and how it works.  For too many, it's become an academic argument, stripped of reality.

If you want capital punishment to have any deterrent affect at all, it needs to be reported as honestly and realistically as it can be.

Idaho wants to allow death penalty by firing squad.
The reason cited is lack of drugs.
How ironic that people are croaking every day from fentanyl without even trying.
Naysayers say it's cruel and unusual punishment.
I say it shouldn't matter, and just the thought may be a deterrent to criminal behavior.
Sounds like a win-win situation to me.

https://www.aol.com/idaho-lawmakers-approve-bill-could-223724490.html

Maybe we should send all the scum bag demoncrats holding elective office in this state to Idaho….. start with a clean slate!

I was always against the death penalty because our justice system has way too many oopsies when it comes to convicting innocent people.

That belief has been reinforced by Merrick Garland. Since Jan 6 they are calling anyone who disagrees with them terrorists, traitors, and seditionists. These are legal terms with lethal consequences.

Fortunately their plans seem to have stalled at the round-up phase and all those who participated in the mRNA mass murder are about to become very unpopular. 

I was always against the death penalty because our justice system has way too many oopsies when it comes to convicting innocent people.

That belief has been reinforced by Merrick Garland. Since Jan 6 they are calling anyone who disagrees with them terrorists, traitors, and seditionists. These are legal terms with lethal consequences.

Fortunately their plans seem to have stalled at the round-up phase and all those who participated in the mRNA mass murder are about to become very unpopular. 

I'm possibly the most anti-cop guy on this site.
I don't trust the justice system at all.
I believe the death penalty is a good, solution, however,
I don't trust our government to
perform that duty justly in our present system.
Since our system of punishment is neither swift nor just,
I'd advocate for death sentences to be life in a comfortable easily
cleanable cell, fed decent food, complete isolation, no exercise,
minimal human contact, and all the Fentanyl/Heroin  you want.
 

you guys crack me up

It's true that there are massive problems with the legal system in the US, partially because people make careers by achieving high conviction rates.  That means letting many guilty go free because the cases are to weak to guarantee conviction and/or or possibly convicting innocent defendants using bad witness accounts, circumstantial evidence and forced confessions.

I do think, however, if the case involves a freely given confession, video evidence, and other irrefutable proof that the defendant committed a capital offense, the death penalty would be the most just punishment.

Too often, the criminals get a reduced sentence or psych prison by claiming they were acting while high, drunk or insane.  Rather than punish the act, we wind up trying to discern the intent.  That leads down an path of lies, deception and skilled lawyering which seeks to argue something that's unknowable for certain.

That a crime was committed IS a certainty.

Carbon monoxide is cheap, readily available and painless.

Carbon monoxide is cheap, readily available and painless.

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cheap and easy is always a good idea

painless is ok too

...and all the Fentanyl/Heroin  you want.

This seems to be what the government is doing right now, which is the mass execution of hundreds of thousands of undesirables/useless eaters every year and replacing them with foreign workers who don't have rights

Why else would they encourage such a disastrous open border policy?

This thread reminded me of the scene in Red Dawn (original). . . fuego

For heinous crimes, I can't post what I would consider warranted punishment.  That said, I think proposal like death by firing line are somewhere in the "things that make you go hmm" realm. 

If anything, offer the family of victims affected by said crime the option.  Don't put that on anyone else. 

If they did it to your kid you should have the option of up close and personal after convicted.
In Super clear and convincing cases.