Over the course of some bills this year, store owners submitted via their names and forgot to put "on behalf of X,Y,Z store".

Kaneohe Gun Shop and Firearms International are 2 that I know of.  I had to ask around to find out what their names were because I had a feeling it was them.

Also gotta consider what kind of backlash they could face? Maybe they arent allowed to submit on behalf of their business. If politicians can introduce and pass litigious bills like hb426, then who knows what else they could do to hurt business owners.

Also gotta consider what kind of backlash they could face? Maybe they arent allowed to submit on behalf of their business. If politicians can introduce and pass litigious bills like hb426, then who knows what else they could do to hurt business owners.

Thanks guys for the responses. Yeah I guess I can understand why stores may leave out their store names in fear of stuff these powerful politicians may do to cause trouble for them.

Also gotta consider what kind of backlash they could face? Maybe they arent allowed to submit on behalf of their business. If politicians can introduce and pass litigious bills like hb426, then who knows what else they could do to hurt business owners.

This is a thing. Which is why I give SEC a break.  Many HPD go there and get HPD supplies from there.  So I will assume they dont want to bite the hand that feeds them.

Thanks guys for the responses. Yeah I guess I can understand why stores may leave out their store names in fear of stuff these powerful politicians may do to cause trouble for them.

HB426 should have had every gun store cause when signed, they can be sued. And this also means that there really needs to have no good reason to sue either. 1 can sue and not even have a chance of winning. But this will cost gun stores and people money to pay for a defense attorney.  Only time will tell if the anti 2a groups put effort into sueing gun stores.

The question is at what point is the line drawn and stores get more involved with testimonies or like legislature?  Some years ago, they tried to ban all semi auto rifles and shotguns with no grandfather clause. This would mean if it passed into law in July, any semi autos on the shelf would be illegal to own. They would have had to turn them into HPD prior to the effective date.  Majority of stores didn't submit testimony.  I know 1 store is friends with their senator/rep and they called their cell phone to complain and they showed up in person to the hearing.

I was in Vegas and they had the mask mandate at the time. When we entered the gun store, the owner said we can take off our mask. I asked what about the mandate?  His reply was something like " cops wont dare come into a gun store and start pushing their weight around".

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=1230&year=2023


Senate disagrees with the house amendments. No clue what this is or who's on the sen/house committee's.  But this is good news as it slightly increases the chance of the bill dying.  But it could be over anything, like 1 committee wants to add another sensitive place or doesn't like the 4 year CCW validity.

Senate Conferees Appointed: Wakai Chair; Rhoads Co-Chair; Elefante.
House Conferees Appointed: Tarnas, Yamashita Co-Chairs; Kitagawa, Takayama.

Conference committee meeting scheduled for 04-26-23 4:45PM; Conference Room 016.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=1230&year=2023

they kicked the can down the road, to tomorrow.

Conference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-27-23 4:30PM; Conference Room 016.

This is good. When committee doesnt show up, its their way of voting no without voting no.

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rpoL98:  Thank you very much for taking the time to keep track of this, and posting.

Pushed back again till tomorrow 3:45, room 016.

This should have been a slam dunk. Somethings up.

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Pushed back again till tomorrow 3:45, room 016.

This should have been a slam dunk. Somethings up.

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watching the youtube video, relevant from about 3:00:25 onwards, it sounds like the steam roller is definitely rolling ahead, guess somebody from Fiscal forgot to dot some i's and cross some t's.  tomorrow...

It's not unusual.  Finance chair is the busiest one in the capitol as most bills have a financial component to them.  While other chairs may have 10 or so bills to oversee, the finance chair may have  50 or 100.

Tomorrows the last day for bills to clear conference committee.  If one of the chairs is out tomorrow, then the bill might be dead.  They have until 6:30pm tomorrow.  But the bill appears to be agreed on and complete, they just have to vote in committee.

Watching some other bills, Finance is backed up with a lot of other bills and probably burning the midnight oil tonight.  Cross your fingers and hope they're a no show tomorrow.

It's not unusual.  Finance chair is the busiest one in the capitol as most bills have a financial component to them.  While other chairs may have 10 or so bills to oversee, the finance chair may have  50 or 100.

Tomorrows the last day for bills to clear conference committee.  If one of the chairs is out tomorrow, then the bill might be dead.  They have until 6:30pm tomorrow.  But the bill appears to be agreed on and complete, they just have to vote in committee.

too busy scheming to funnel our monies to friends and families

In my opinion SB1230 and all the other anti-2a gun control bills can take a flying f**k at a rolling doughnut........

Watching some other bills, Finance is backed up with a lot of other bills and probably burning the midnight oil tonight.  Cross your fingers and hope they're a no show tomorrow.

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FWIW:
4/28/23 3:45P  CR 016

... and they just passed it.      

Immedately after the vote, all clapped and 4 left to go somewhere else.

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... and they just passed it.      

Sucks 👎