Strange range behavior (Read 7430 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2023, 08:37:51 AM »
My own rule of thumb is that  I usually don't let anyone I don't know handle my firearms.  The exceptions would be if it's a friend of a friend.  Like both people are there, not a name drop.  And when this happens, I also examine their demeanor prior to.  Safety is numero uno and as the owner of the firearm, I am responsible for the actions of others that I let use it.

IMO, this guy was overly aggressive and I would not let him handle my firearms. 

spicynoodle_1

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2023, 08:51:33 AM »
Went to range today with son. Had a guy with a strong accent come and start telling us if we could shoot 1 handed. He kept telling me that me and my son should shoot 1 handed. He was there with 2 other guys. Kept asking me if that was a 357. He then proceeded to ask me if he could shoot it with his own ammo. I decided to leave.
He then asked if he could  hold it. Not wanting to be rude I agreed. I don’t know why he kept pushing my son should try 1 handed. Seems like he wanted to prove something. If he reloads then why would he need to shoot someone else’s gun. The revolver is a common ruger. Weird.

Jones

Learned the hard way a long time ago, not to trust reloads from a stranger.  Other people can reload for you but you should know their practices and methods before you fire off one of their rounds at all, let alone in your own gun.  I mean, factory ammo is essentially ammo reloaded by a stranger, but that stranger is sort of vetted through millions of people shooting their ammo.  This dude, no one knows…. And a stranger coming up to you asking if they can shoot your gun is just awkward.  You asking if they would like to try is different than someone pushing the issue.

hvybarrels

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2023, 08:58:08 AM »
We’re currently in the middle of a national mental meltdown and your circle of trust should contract accordingly
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2023, 09:53:10 AM »
Learned the hard way a long time ago, not to trust reloads from a stranger.  Other people can reload for you but you should know their practices and methods before you fire off one of their rounds at all, let alone in your own gun.  I mean, factory ammo is essentially ammo reloaded by a stranger, but that stranger is sort of vetted through millions of people shooting their ammo.  This dude, no one knows…. And a stranger coming up to you asking if they can shoot your gun is just awkward.  You asking if they would like to try is different than someone pushing the issue.

Yep.  i'd never ask to shoot someone's firearm unless we either knew each other or he invited me.

Plus, factory ammo is tested, production has quality controls, and the company has a liability risk they work to mitigate through proper manufacturing processes and training.

That other guy probably watched a YouTube video and bought his reloading equipment secondhand. 

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2023, 11:49:39 AM »
Yep.  i'd never ask to shoot someone's firearm unless we either knew each other or he invited me.



What if it's a she? lol

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2023, 11:59:12 AM »
What if it's a she? lol

Then that would go double, especially if she's there alone.

 :shake:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2023, 12:11:53 PM »
What if it's a she? lol
.....
How do you know if it's a she?
What, Me Worry?

akupalu

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2023, 12:13:03 PM »
I went each Saturday so far to shoot rifle and last week pistol, I'll keep my eye out for these leather pants people lol.  Just curious,  do you know anyone with ccw  have thier ccw on them at the range? Isn't kokohead the only city park not considered a sensitive place?
« Last Edit: May 15, 2023, 12:22:17 PM by akupalu »

oldfart

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2023, 12:13:31 PM »
We’re currently in the middle of a national mental meltdown and your circle of trust should contract accordingly
....
+1
What, Me Worry?

ren

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2023, 12:15:07 PM »
Few years ago, a group of teens came down from the Ewa side of the range. They appeared to come from the beach and were checking the activities on the rifle and pistol ranges. Another reason to be cognizant of people and never leave your firearms unattended.
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2023, 12:18:47 PM »
Few years ago, a group of teens came down from the Ewa side of the range. They appeared to come from the beach and were checking the activities on the rifle and pistol ranges. Another reason to be cognizant of people and never leave your firearms unattended.

Good point.  many have reported firearms stolen at the range.

Someone engaging you out of the blue could just be trying to distract you from the guy standing near your range bags ...
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2023, 03:22:14 PM »
.....
How do you know if it's a she?

No can nowadays, even if "she" shows you her belot.

But then "she" might have an oten.  Either way run away.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Stugatz

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2023, 06:16:42 PM »
Few years ago, a group of teens came down from the Ewa side of the range. They appeared to come from the beach and were checking the activities on the rifle and pistol ranges. Another reason to be cognizant of people and never leave your firearms unattended.
I didn't know there were loonies hanging out at the range. Do you guys always go with a friend?  Kinda hard not to leave firearms unattended if going alone, no?

powder monkey

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2023, 07:46:47 PM »
If leaving to go bathroom and alone can ask RSO working to keep eye on item.

QUIETShooter

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2023, 05:55:53 AM »
I think this recent strange behavior is somewhat unsettling.

What is scary is a lot of newbie firearm owners at the range might think nothing of this kind of behavior.

Maybe the RSO's have to be trained in more than just range management.  They gotta be able to spot and deal with potential dangers.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2023, 06:53:01 AM »
Good point.  many have reported firearms stolen at the range.

Someone engaging you out of the blue could just be trying to distract you from the guy standing near your range bags ...
=============

I've been shooting at KHSC for about 44 years. i've never heard of firearms being stolen at the range.
What, Me Worry?

changemyoil66

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2023, 08:28:33 AM »
If leaving to go bathroom and alone can ask RSO working to keep eye on item.

When at the rifle or pistol side, I take my firearms with me to the restroom.  The RO's will watch if asked, but their attention isn't 100% on your firearms due to them having to watch the line.

hvybarrels

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2023, 10:00:17 AM »
That's what adult diapers are for.
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

Heavies

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2023, 12:57:15 PM »
=============

I've been shooting at KHSC for about 44 years. i've never heard of firearms being stolen at the range.


I’ve heard of someone’s pistol being stolen on the bullseye side during a ceasefire. The person came from the far end and snagged a gun off the bench. The design of the pistol side creates a somewhat blind spot on the far end. The RSO can’t watch everywhere at once.

I’ve always tried to stay close to the center for this reason.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Strange range behavior
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2023, 01:15:06 PM »
=============

I've been shooting at KHSC for about 44 years. i've never heard of firearms being stolen at the range.

Kokohead Range - AR-15 stolen
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=3472.20

I recently heard that on Sat, 05/19, an AR-15 was stolen off the shooting bench while the line
was cold and shooters were checking their targets.   There were no witnesses, not even the
RSO's, and a report was filed with HPD. 

Did anyone here hear about this incident?
I asked around to some of the guys that are here almost everyday and no one heard anything
but most agreed that they did not doubt that it happened or could happen.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw