It may have been something considered classified or sensitive and if so that would explain why they didn't make it public.

Nope.

The sound was in the sub's area, but it was not definitive.  The data was shared with those involved in the search.  The decision makers factored it in with the SAR operations.

They chose to mobilize SAR units and accept international assistance until the status of the submersible was ascertained, or the death of the occupants was a certainty given their oxygen supply.

Publicizing a sound recording with no definitive cause doesn't benefit anyone -- especially those risking their lives in the search.

It may have been something considered classified or sensitive and if so that would explain why they didn't make it public.

personally, my opinion,
is we don't have clue what the government
can spy upon
or can do.
that is why this one connection
is my one only.
 

They didn’t KNOW what happened. They picked up sounds consistent with a catastrophic implosion in the general area of the Titanic wreck. Not the same as knowing, and if somebody I loved were on that submersible, I wouldn’t want rescuers to say “They heard something that sounded like an implosion. Well, I guess that’s it then, let’s go have a beer.”

Do you have a link to information about this USCG sub?

No, I read about it early on as people were asking why the special unit hasn't been deployed at all, as it does take time to sail to the area.

What news sources do you use? If I heard NPR of all places covering the story I think you are hard pressed to claim the lefty media is suppressing the story. I mean you even had multiple reporters grilling KJP over the Hunter Biden story recently, this isn't a story you'' find only on Fox News anymore. 

Sorry but I don't buy the conspiracy theory about the sub. It doesn't seem realistic. Even if they had begun moving equipment on day one, from the news I saw/heard it would have taken 2-3 days just to get there. It wasn't your average search and rescue of course.

I don't remember, nor saved the links.

So if it takes 2-3 days just to get there; did the government say no sense deploy it?  No they didn't.

You're right that this wasn't your average SAR, it was much easier in the aspect that the SAR area was much narrower.  Compare this to another type of ship lost at sea, it could be hundreds/thousands of square miles.  The titanic wreckage is spread out over 2000 feet from the 2 main parts.  Which makes the area of probability smaller than a lost ship or plane.

Here's what should have been said by the gov: "We heard an implosion in the area of the Titan. This isn't 100%, so we will search until we can find visual confirmation.  But at the same time, they only have 96hrs of oxygen, so we have to hurry".

Instead of: Lets search cause we got 96hrs. Then shortly after the 96hr window, they heard an implosion in the area days ago. And we left the best deep sea rescue sub docked.

It may have been something considered classified or sensitive and if so that would explain why they didn't make it public.

I find it hard to believe that classified or sensitive was the reason they didn't make it public.  They also discovered "banging" sounds and shared that information, so "listening technologies" is not something nobody knows about.

I don't think anybody would have pressed the Navy to disclose the equipment and technology that enabled them to discover those sounds.

Was "banging" sounds more hopeful than sounds of a possible fatal "implosion"?

Gotta admit banging sounds lend for a more dramatic and drawn out story.

What is concerning to me is how much, if any, information is being shared with the public, where transparency was never a concern in the past but is ever more prevalent and suspect nowadays.

It may have been something considered classified or sensitive and if so that would explain why they didn't make it public.

If it's classified, then why did they talk about it now?

I can understand the delay in reporting the implosion.  It takes a lot of analysis from many different systems.  Also   If the system is classified, they want to ensure the information given out doesn't allow someone to figure out it's capabilities and location.

It took a while for the Navy to announce the same thing in the Kursk incident and others.

too early

too early

I waited as long as i could!

 

Yes, the Navy verified sounds of an implosion in the vicinity of where the sub was.  And they shared this information with the head of rescue operations.

But they did not share it with the general public.   Even if this information is not what the family members want to hear, you still need to share it.  Sure, the Navy could not know for sure those sounds were the sounds of that submarine imploding and they even said so when sharing the information to the head of rescue operations.

Just share the information and let people decide whether they want to hold on to hope or not.  Why they didn't share this information is why people are all bent out of shape.

And it doesn't mean you give up on rescue operations.  You keep trying until all options and avenues are exhausted or physical evidence tells you to stop.

No, the Navy didn’t “verify sounds of an implosion.”  That’s not what they’d say.  They’d say they picked up sounds consistent with an implosion, but they’re unable to say with certainty.  And the responders would continue with rescue efforts until they could verify that there was no chance of survival.

And, when your highly sensitive, super-secret submarine detection network picks something up like that, it’s going to take a minute before you decide whether you can release that info to the public.  Did you read somewhere that they didn’t tell the families?

The vessel you keep referring to does not belong to the USCG… It’s a private venture.  Sub went missing on Sunday; on Wednesday, USCG said Magellan was enroute.  Could it have maybe been deployed sooner?  Maybe, but one of the first rules of incident response is that you’ve got to keep control of the operation.  Rushing in assets without a plan can be more harm than help.

If you only look for conspiracies, you’ll find them everywhere…

No, the Navy didn’t “verify sounds of an implosion.”  That’s not what they’d say.  They’d say they picked up sounds consistent with an implosion, but they’re unable to say with certainty.  And the responders would continue with rescue efforts until they could verify that there was no chance of survival.

And, when your highly sensitive, super-secret submarine detection network picks something up like that, it’s going to take a minute before you decide whether you can release that info to the public.  Did you read somewhere that they didn’t tell the families?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/titan-families-told-potential-implosion-sound-navy-detected/story?id=100341339#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Coast%20Guard%20informed%20the%20families%20of,knowledge%20Thursday%20evening%2C%20a%20defense%20official%20said%20Friday.

The Coast Guard stated that the Navy's findings did not 100% verify that the titan has indeed imploded so the decision to continue rescue efforts will continue to the very end.

I'm fine with that and admire their determination.  However, what was so wrong with sharing this information earlier on in the week?  Classified or super duper secret, is there a difference by withholding information almost 4 days later while the media has a field day talking about banging noises and the drama of 96 hrs of oxygen?

And I don't buy the "it takes time before this information can be made public".  The article clearly states that the decision of making the information public fell on the Coast Guard.  Not the Navy.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/titan-families-told-potential-implosion-sound-navy-detected/story?id=100341339#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Coast%20Guard%20informed%20the%20families%20of,knowledge%20Thursday%20evening%2C%20a%20defense%20official%20said%20Friday.

The Coast Guard stated that the Navy's findings did not 100% verify that the titan has indeed imploded so the decision to continue rescue efforts will continue to the very end.

I'm fine with that and admire their determination.  However, what was so wrong with sharing this information earlier on in the week?  Classified or super duper secret, is there a difference by withholding information almost 4 days later while the media has a field day talking about banging noises and the drama of 96 hrs of oxygen?

And I don't buy the "it takes time before this information can be made public".  The article clearly states that the decision of making the information public fell on the Coast Guard.  Not the Navy.

The fact that “you don’t buy it” doesn’t mean it’s untrue.  I expect the responsible officials in the Coast Guard were weighing the benefit of publicly releasing the information against the potential damage to national security.  Those decisions take time, and given the lack of any real benefit of public release, as I see it, I get why they may not have been in a big hurry to release.

The truth is much simpler.

Joe Biden needed a "Tail wagging the dog" story.

The media needed clicks and advertising dollars.

So, Homeland Security told the Coast Guard to delay releasing any information that might spoil the anticipation of finding the Titan no matter its fate.  Drama attracts eyes, and eyes mean click$$$.

Quid pro quo for all the help the media has given the Biden campaign and administration.

 

 

The truth is much simpler.

Joe Biden needed a "Tail wagging the dog" story.

The media needed clicks and advertising dollars.

So, Homeland Security told the Coast Guard to delay releasing any information that might spoil the anticipation of finding the Titan no matter its fate.  Drama attracts eyes, and eyes mean click$$$.

Quid pro quo for all the help the media has given the Biden campaign and administration.

 

 

The truth is much simpler.

Joe Biden needed a "Tail wagging the dog" story.

The media needed clicks and advertising dollars.

So, Homeland Security told the Coast Guard to delay releasing any information that might spoil the anticipation of finding the Titan no matter its fate.  Drama attracts eyes, and eyes mean click$$$.

Quid pro quo for all the help the media has given the Biden campaign and administration.

 

I just didn't know how to say it in words but this is what I was leaning towards.  Thank you Sir Flapp 

Call it conspiracy, drama enticement, clicks$$$ whatever.  In my opinion the events leading up to the climax makes more sense in this context.

I just didn't know how to say it in words but this is what I was leaning towards.  Thank you Sir Flapp 

Call it conspiracy, drama enticement, clicks$$$ whatever.  In my opinion the events leading up to the climax makes more sense in this context.

If you only look for conspiracies, you’ll find them everywhere…

If you only look for conspiracies, you’ll find them everywhere…

1, They knew.
2. They acted like they didn't know.
3. This all took place as the exact same time as damning evidence of an epic presidential scandal was coming out and the corporate media refused to cover it.
4. This isn't the first time.

I don't remember, nor saved the links.

So if it takes 2-3 days just to get there; did the government say no sense deploy it?  No they didn't.

You're right that this wasn't your average SAR, it was much easier in the aspect that the SAR area was much narrower.  Compare this to another type of ship lost at sea, it could be hundreds/thousands of square miles.  The titanic wreckage is spread out over 2000 feet from the 2 main parts.  Which makes the area of probability smaller than a lost ship or plane.

Here's what should have been said by the gov: "We heard an implosion in the area of the Titan. This isn't 100%, so we will search until we can find visual confirmation.  But at the same time, they only have 96hrs of oxygen, so we have to hurry".

Instead of: Lets search cause we got 96hrs. Then shortly after the 96hr window, they heard an implosion in the area days ago. And we left the best deep sea rescue sub docked.

If everything you say or suspect is true, what would be the motive? Why delay their response?