I live very close to one of the fires in Kula. Many enormous trees, mostly Eucalyptus with shallow roots, toppled in the wind and dragged down the powerlines starting the fires. Some of these trees are 80 feet high and 5 foot dbh and weigh many thousands of pounds, blocking roads. The few firefighters that are here could not cover these blazes all over the place. I had to evacuate twice in the first big night, but we made it.

It might be nice to skip some of the conspiracies and political hate mongering on this issue.  A lot of people lost everything, and the community is doing the best we can to help each other out.

Well, Kaniela Ing is blaming Trump...

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Well, Kaniela Ing is blaming Trump...

Now he’s blaming racism. Total grifter

https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2023/08/how-colonialism-contributed-to-the-maui-wildfires/

From Heavybarrel

“Glad you're okay, but the fact that you're calling dysfunctional government and/or industry a conspiracy theory is an even bigger dick move “


I appreciate the compliment. Seldom have I been accused of having a big dick before, but there is a first for everything!

There were many errors in this event, and many people paid with their lives. When fires are advancing a mile a minute, there is no room for any error.

I appreciate the compliment.

Seriously though glad you are okay

I never heard of Maui doing controlled burns to reduce fuel, which they should do every year as wildfires were common there.  Would be difficult since most of Maui is private property.  Long term solution is to replant native trees to reduce the invasive foliage and restore the ecosystems, and train volunteers to fight the wildfires.

Previously person asked me to help them to pass a law to fight wildfires and get a water drop plane like they have in CA.  I thought it was a bit too much at the time but helped them anyways.

In my previous job, we did the Lahaina Bypass.  That area was WAY overgrown.  To the point where after a brush fire, a native Hawaiian "feature" was revealed.  Haven't been there since around 2010, but from the aerial photos, the area west of Keawe St hasn't changed that much. 

During one site visit, there was a fire that shutdown the highway.  What looked like a pine type tree went up in minutes, shockingly fast.  Not sure if those types of trees remained since I was there last, but they were all over.  With such a dry summer, I would imagine they were quite dry.  Add the high winds, and dayum. . . 

I never heard of Maui doing controlled burns to reduce fuel, which they should do every year as wildfires were common there.  Would be difficult since most of Maui is private property.  Long term solution is to replant native trees to reduce the invasive foliage and restore the ecosystems, and train volunteers to fight the wildfires.

Previously person asked me to help them to pass a law to fight wildfires and get a water drop plane like they have in CA.  I thought it was a bit too much at the time but helped them anyways.

Shouldn’t property owners be up keeping their property in a safe manner, especially when said property poses a threat to the community. Also MECO/HECO share some of that burden in keeping areas safe from fire when their utilities pose such threats?

When all these huge billion dollar companies bought up all these lands post sugar, they should have been responsible for maintaining these properties.

Whether it's "officially" ruled the cause was Climate Change, a hurricane, or other such event, it all falls under "Act of God" as normally included (or excluded) in most all property insurance policies.

Luckily the two exclusions in most policies are Earthquake and flood.  You have to get additional insurance for those acts of God.

For wildfire damage/devastation, if you live in an area prone to wildfires, you may also need additional coverage for that.

Hopefully this gets classified as a rare event -- hurricane force winds causing and exacerbating wildfires.  No insurance company should be allowed to sell policies in Hawaii if they try to exclude what happened on Maui.

Remember when the state created a hurricane fund to protect in case of another Iniki hurricane?  They did that for people who were uninsured or underinsured.  Abercrombie raided the fund to pay for higher state union salaries.

I wonder if someone at the top is already eyeing this as another "good crisis" that should not go to waste.

Whether it's "officially" ruled the cause was Climate Change, a hurricane, or other such event, it all falls under "Act of God" as normally included (or excluded) in most all property insurance policies.

Luckily the two exclusions in most policies are Earthquake and flood.  You have to get additional insurance for those acts of God.

For wildfire damage/devastation, if you live in an area prone to wildfires, you may also need additional coverage for that.

Hopefully this gets classified as a rare event -- hurricane force winds causing and exacerbating wildfires.  No insurance company should be allowed to sell policies in Hawaii if they try to exclude what happened on Maui.

Remember when the state created a hurricane fund to protect in case of another Iniki hurricane?  They did that for people who were uninsured or underinsured.  Abercrombie raided the fund to pay for higher state union salaries.

I wonder if someone at the top is already eyeing this as another "good crisis" that should not go to waste.

Of course it is. It’s already been stated by gov Josh Greed himself.

Of course it is. It’s already been stated by gov Josh Greed himself.

Hopefully more folks are waking up to the fact that he's a fake. . . seeing a lot more folks furious at him overall. . .

Hopefully more folks are waking up to the fact that he's a fake. . . seeing a lot more folks furious at him overall. . .

brruuuuhhhhhh, you forgetting what state of voters you have here.

Shouldn’t property owners be up keeping their property in a safe manner, especially when said property poses a threat to the community. Also MECO/HECO share some of that burden in keeping areas safe from fire when their utilities pose such threats?

When all these huge billion dollar companies bought up all these lands post sugar, they should have been responsible for maintaining these properties.

Sad to say, but I hope this is the event that causes the end of HECO monopoly.  Sad as in it took a fire like this, not sad for HECO losing their monopoly.

Proof of Climate Change did Cause the Disastor

You also get the government you deserve.