The CDC reported 49,500 adults committed suicide in the US in 2022.

The number of people who died by suicide in the U.S. hit an estimated
record 49,000 in 2022, a 2.6% increase over the prior year, government
data showed on Thursday.

Over half of all U.S. suicides in 2022 involved firearms, according to the
figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

"Nine in 10 Americans believe America is facing a mental health crisis.
The new suicide death data reported by CDC illustrates why," U.S. Health
Secretary Xavier Becerra said in a statement.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-suicide-deaths-reached-record-high-2022-cdc-data-shows-2023-08-11/

In my mind, even if more people chose firearms to commit suicide in 2022, there's still half the total who did not use firearms.  People choose the least painful, most effective means when seriously attempting suicide.

Guns are not the cause of suicide.  Guns are simply a very effective method.

Consider the fact that more Liberals and first-time-buyers bought guns during the pandemic in part because of the riots, looting, and other rampant crime being unchecked by government.  Are we going to now say new owners buying guns is causing more suicides?  If not, then why were those already in possession of guns not killing themselves at this record rate?

Giving the CDC money to study gun stats was a huge mistake.  Their agenda will never allow them to do more than argue for fewer guns.

Does anybody else feel like the deep state has finally jumped the shark?

I mean seriously who the hell is going to give up their guns NOW?

where did they blame guns for anything?

They are using the CDC to take guns away by making stuff up. Wait a few years, bumbai u see.

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where did they blame guns for anything?

Sorry.  i picked one of several articles and videos on the topic, and it happened to be the least detailed.

Try this one.  Also Google can help you out, too.

Experts caution that suicide is complicated, and that recent increases might be driven by a range of factors, including higher rates of depression and limited availability of mental health services.

But a main driver is the growing availability of guns, said Jill Harkavy-Friedman, senior vice president of research at the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.

Suicide attempts involving guns end in death far more often than those with other means, and gun sales have boomed — placing firearms in more and more homes.

A recent Johns Hopkins University analysis used preliminary 2022 data to calculate that the nation’s overall gun suicide rate rose last year to an all-time high. For the first time, the gun suicide rate among Black teens surpassed the rate among white teens, the researchers found.

“I don’t know if you can talk about suicide without talking about firearms,” Harkavy-Friedman said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/mental-health/cdc-data-finds-suicides-reached-time-high-2022-rcna99327

Here's da problem with suicide by gun. It is often not the real cause of death of a person. It can be a staged act, when a wife rigs up ("arranges") the death of her husband.

There was a "death by suicide" of a cop on a neighbor island. Like a lot of acts, it was covered up by local authorities.

On the mainland, we have the case of a "texting suicide" caused by a nasty woman messing with the mind of her boyfriend. He died by carbon monoxide poisoning. She was convicted of manslaughter. Do we ban cars, using CDC reasoning?

Here's da problem with suicide by gun. It is often not the real cause of death of a person. It can be a staged act, when a wife rigs up ("arranges") the death of her husband.

There was a "death by suicide" of a cop on a neighbor island. Like a lot of acts, it was covered up by local authorities.

On the mainland, we have the case of a "texting suicide" caused by a nasty woman messing with the mind of her boyfriend. He died by carbon monoxide poisoning. She was convicted of manslaughter. Do we ban cars, using CDC reasoning?

Try telling that to the anti-gun zealots.  They don't want to hear logic and rational solutions.  They only want guns to "disappear."

Their line of thinking says without a gun handy, the suicidal person will be forced to choose another, less lethal alternative means.  Therefore, the person will possibly just injure themselves and have a higher likelihood of surviving the attempt.

In my line of reasoning, if guns account for 1/2 of suicides that succeed, obviously there are other means that are just as lethal as guns.  That other 1/2 that didn't have a gun or chose not to use one found effective ways to end their lives. 

The next highest methods from the CDC stats are suffocation and poisoning.  The suffocation category includes hanging, strangulation and suffocations.  Poisoning includes:

X60 (Intentional self-poisoning by and exposure to nonopioid analgesics, antipyretics and
antirheumatics); X61 (Intentional self-poisoning by and exposure to antiepileptic,
sedative-hypnotic, antiparkinsonism and psychotropic drugs, not elsewhere classified);
X62 (Intentional self-poisoning by and exposure to narcotics and psychodysleptics [hallucinogens],
not elsewhere classified); X63 (Intentional self-poisoning by and exposure to other drugs acting
on the autonomic nervous system); X64 (Intentional self-poisoning by and exposure to other and
unspecified drugs, medicaments and biological substances); X65 (Intentional self-poisoning by
and exposure to alcohol); X66 (Intentional self-poisoning by and exposure to organic solvents
and halogenated hydrocarbons and their vapours); X67 (Intentional self-poisoning by and exposure
to other gases and vapours); X68 (Intentional self-poisoning by and exposure to pesticides);
X69 (Intentional self-poisoning by and exposure to other and unspecified chemicals and noxious
substances)

Inhalation of carbon monoxide vapors is included as "poisoning."

It doesn't take much imagination to find methods that are just as lethal as using a firearm.  The only difference is someone may find you and provide life saving treatment, whereas a firearm is instantaneous. 

It used to be common for people to jump from tall buildings, but many building owners have installed windows that don't open or only open a couple of inches, and security systems preventing access to roofs.  This method seems to be less common now.  That's good news for passersby, but it doesn't mean suicidal people decided against it just because they can't jump from a great height.

Humans have a great many ways to kill.  There's no reason to think anyone will be unable to find a way if they are truly committed to leaving this plane of existence.

There are around 40-45 gun suicides per year in Hawaii, and the success rate is far higher with a gun in Hawaii so it is a problem.

The gun community should watch after our own.  Lookout for warning signs of people under distress and acting weird and just talk to them, be a friend and listen.  Offer to hold their guns for a while.  It's technically illegal, but could save a life.

Firearms are the most successful means of committing suicide, IIRC they are somewhere between 85% and 95% effective.

Suicide by firearm is also much more common among men. Women tend to choose means that are much less violent, much cleaner.

I think that firearms cannot be disregarded in terms of suicide numbers simply because they are more effective. If I decide to kill myself and have a gun I am more likely to succeed whereas many other methods offer me a chance to change my mind and rescue myself or get saved. Statistics support this, places with less access to firearms generally have lower suicide rates, however there is no evidence (that I am aware of) that suggest the gun itself makes someone magically more depressed or suicidal.

It's a fallacy that using a gun is "more successful" than other means of suicide.

The stat from the CDC proves that half the SUCCESSFUL suicides in almost every year involve means other than a firearm.  So, the more accurate statement would be that guns are just as effective as -- and no more lethal than -- all other means used.

When comparing unsuccessful suicides to successful ones, again, don't get caught up in apples and oranges comparisons.  Since guns do not result in as many UNSUCCESSFUL attempts as other means, then most will leap to the conclusion that there would be fewer suicides without guns.  That's the fallacy.

The deciding factor is often in the potentially suicidal person's intentions.  Quite often an attempt is a cry for attention -- an extreme attention-getting effort to ask for help.  That often includes using the attempt to guilt a partner or other person for something they might have done or not done.  These people will pick a sleeping pill or narcotic pain pill overdose, overdose of OTC meds like aspirin, alcohol poisoning, rat poison, and so on.  They are often not as committed to ending their lives as they are demonstrating they are willing to try if that's what it takes to get attention and help.  They know if treatment is received soon enough, they still have a good chance to live.

So, if you want to compare UNSUCCESSFUL suicide attempts and the means used, be careful.  Just because someone attempts suicide doesn't mean they fully intended to end their lives.

Using a stat like "Firearms are the most successful means of committing suicide, IIRC they are somewhere between 85% and 95% effective" proves my point.  "Effective' equates to "successful", as opposed to the other means that have a lower "success rate."  To assign the same level of commitment to those who chose a "less effective" means is a flawed assumption.

Firearms are the most successful means of committing suicide, IIRC they are somewhere between 85% and 95% effective.

Suicide by firearm is also much more common among men. Women tend to choose means that are much less violent, much cleaner.

I think that firearms cannot be disregarded in terms of suicide numbers simply because they are more effective. If I decide to kill myself and have a gun I am more likely to succeed whereas many other methods offer me a chance to change my mind and rescue myself or get saved. Statistics support this, places with less access to firearms generally have lower suicide rates, however there is no evidence (that I am aware of) that suggest the gun itself makes someone magically more depressed or suicidal.

Jump off a tall bulding, 100% success.

Submerge in water with a weight tied, 100% success

Hanging alone, 100% success

Choke urself out, 0% sucess

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Men are most successful at committing suicide. How many women have you heard of Kurt Cobaining themselves vs reaching for the sleeping pills?

Men are most successful at committing suicide. How many women have you heard of Kurt Cobaining themselves vs reaching for the sleeping pills?

True.  Women will more often than men be concerned with the mess they leave behind, the horror for family members of finding a gunshot scene vs. a lifeless body from OD, etc.

A friend of a friend's husband wanted to kill himself, but he didn't want his family nor some stranger finding his body.  So he went to a park (I seem to remember it was Blaisdell park, but I might not be remembering).  He found a ditch, called 911 to report a body in there, and shot himself.  Very considerate, all things considered, but still devastating to his family.  This amount of planning and consideration is rare, but it is more common with women than men.

The Golden Gate Bridge normally averaged between 30 and 40 suicides per year that authorities know of.  Now, with the installation of new barriers to try and prevent jumping, there have been 5 confirmed suicide jumps compared to 22 last year.

Does that mean those 20-30 suicidal people decided to live since the barricade made jumping more difficult?  No way to gather those stats I imagine.  But, jumping from such a high bridge and being washed down river leaves no mess or body for friends or family to discover. 

Difference between using a gun and other methods is guns are instantaneous and relatively easy to do, unless you use a 22lr.  Like cutting wrists take time to bleed out.  The fall from a ledge is terrifying.  Drinking Drano is excruciating pain for a long time.  Hanging is difficult to do without pain.

The Golden Gate Bridge normally averaged between 30 and 40 suicides per year that authorities know of.  Now, with the installation of new barriers to try and prevent jumping, there have been 5 confirmed suicide jumps compared to 22 last year.

I heard it described as breaking lots of bones from the impact and then slowly drowning in chilly water because you're unable to swim.

Don't forget that about a year or 2 ago, the CDC labeled gun deaths a "pandemic:".  This is another step in the long term plan to ban guns via this route.

It's a fallacy that using a gun is "more successful" than other means of suicide.

Since guns do not result in as many UNSUCCESSFUL attempts as other means…

If other means result in fewer completed suicides, tell me again how guns are not more likely to result in a completed suicide?

Don't forget that about a year or 2 ago, the CDC labeled gun deaths a "pandemic:".  This is another step in the long term plan to ban guns via this route.

Have you got a link or source where the CDC actually said that?  Couldn’t find it with a quick search…

Have you got a link or source where the CDC actually said that?  Couldn’t find it with a quick search…

It was on their website

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It was on their website

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Dug a little deeper, still couldn’t find anything.  Just seems unlikely to me, since “pandemic” has an actual definition that they use.