Ahhh another government agency where the employees forget where the money for their paychecks come from...wonder if everyone just stopped paying taxes...

I had an incident where a bum crazy guy was walking around my house trying to get in at around 430 in the morning. I went outside with my pistol equipped with a flashlight. Found the guy sitting in the garage talking to himself saying he lives here. He didn't want to leave even if I had a firearm in plain sight. Called 911 and explained to them of the situation and dispatched there units in the area. When I told the dispatcher I had a firearm, they was by my house in a hart beat. Like, 5 patrol cars, 2 unmarked, and 3 bikes. They didn't know what the situation was so some did the rutine in disarming me and the rest of the cops took care of the guy. After the whole thing, they gave me back my firearm. People say "well, It's not going to happen to me".....When it does, Are you prepared? Lucky I didn't have to use it, but if I have to use it to protect my family and kids, I will.

57- are you in HI?
"went outside with my pistol" is not legal here, so i am assuming not
i can't imagine what would happen here in that situation
i am thinking SWAT teams taking you down before the crazy guy

I had an incident where a bum crazy guy was walking around my house trying to get in at around 430 in the morning. I went outside with my pistol equipped with a flashlight. Found the guy sitting in the garage talking to himself saying he lives here. He didn't want to leave even if I had a firearm in plain sight. Called 911 and explained to them of the situation and dispatched there units in the area. When I told the dispatcher I had a firearm, they was by my house in a hart beat. Like, 5 patrol cars, 2 unmarked, and 3 bikes. They didn't know what the situation was so some did the rutine in disarming me and the rest of the cops took care of the guy. After the whole thing, they gave me back my firearm. People say "well, It's not going to happen to me".....When it does, Are you prepared? Lucky I didn't have to use it, but if I have to use it to protect my family and kids, I will.

Call 911.  LEAVE THE LINE OPEN, and set the phone down on a table, bed, etc.  "Report" everything as it happens so the 911 system records it.  Yell, "I have gun!  Do not come in!"  If the intruder continues, start counting "20 feet ... STOP .... 15 feet .... I SAID STOP .... 10 feet  ... I'll shoot!"

Once that's on record, it's obvious it was self self defense, and the perp had every opportunity to avoid being shot.  The evidence of the 911 call will be better than any statement you could make!

Of course, things can happen much too quickly for you to report what's happening, but the attack, struggle, whatever will also be recorded and can back up your account of events.

A friend of mine learned this in a self defense course and passed it on to me.   

57- are you in HI?
"went outside with my pistol" is not legal here, so i am assuming not
i can't imagine what would happen here in that situation
i am thinking SWAT teams taking you down before the crazy guy

Yeah I'm in Hawaii.....I guess that's why they did there steps in disarming me (turn around, holster the pistol, hands behind the head, and. Took it from me from behind) They were cool, and explained I couldn't be outside with a firearm loaded. Our house is gated, So for the intruder to go past the gate to my front door trying to come in, wouldn't he be trespassing? I mean I'm still on my property.

Defend yourself because the cops took 30-45 minutes to get to my house and I live in the aliamanu area!

glad that turned out ok

not sure about the gate, but i wouldn't risk it
for me, house only and only if in danger (grave danger)
(please someone get the reference)

Yeah I'm in Hawaii.....I guess that's why they did there steps in disarming me (turn around, holster the pistol, hands behind the head, and. Took it from me from behind) They were cool, and explained I couldn't be outside with a firearm loaded. Our house is gated, So for the intruder to go past the gate to my front door trying to come in, wouldn't he be trespassing? I mean I'm still on my property.

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for me, house only and only if in danger (grave danger)
(please someone get the reference)

Is there any other kind?   

mahalo, moosed
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Is there any other kind?   

Better to be judged by 12 of your peers than carried by 6 of your friends!  If it meant that my wife and kids were alive and safe, I would take prison time any day of the week.

I would burn in hell for my families safety!... I won't make a record of any possible actions online ...     Guess you weren't catching that I was being sarcastic in my post....

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Well...if we can finally get the CCW issue overturned, you won't need to call the cops : call pizza hut if anyone enters your house again. 

You don't need a CCW to carry a gun in your home.

Your home is your castle.

If someone breaks into your home, you have every right to protect your life and the lives of your family.

Continuing story.......  Girl intruder walking around my home at 3am in the morning talking "this is the house, this is the house"!  I wasn't sure if she was with another accomplice or not or just plain crazy!  So one cop finally arrives he walks around my property and a girl in her 20s is running out and screaming "don't touch me" running down my street!  Cop comes back reports "everything is clear"!  So I'm confused i tell the cop "why did u let her go"!  Cop replies "what the f_ck u wanted me to do, u wanna do my f_cking job!  I told the cop u should of questioned her on what is she doing here or check her ID & see if she lives in the neighborhood or not!  I told the cop u should of got her info because what if she comes back and were all dead u have no leads!  He tells me "oh let me go find her"!  Cop jumps into his car and leaves!  Never heard from him & he never came back for a report!  So I file a complaint on him!

Did you file a burglary report/complaint afterwards? Could've called dispatch and explained the situation, tell them you want to file a report.

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According to HPD Firearms :

My home can be defended ONLY IF someone is 'forcefully' and/or 'violently' attempting to break into my home while I am within the confines of it.

Bullshit.

So you wake up in the middle of the night and two huge guys are in your home.

A) You watch them rape your wife and kill your kids because you're not sure if they "forcefully" or "violently" entered your home?

B) You tell them to leave and if they refuse, you take whatever steps are necessary to stop them from harming your family,

No offense to whoever gave you that piece of misinformation but they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

According to HPD Firearms :

My home can be defended ONLY IF someone is 'forcefully' and/or 'violently' attempting to break into my home while I am within the confines of it.

My question is : does my front gate count?

Maybe the HPD firearms administration staff need to read more of Hawaii's Revised Statutes than just those that pertain to gun permiting and registration:

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0703/HRS_0703-0304.HTM

§703-304  Use of force in self-protection. 

     (1)  Subject to the provisions of this section and of section 703-308, the use of force upon or toward another person is justifiable when the actor believes that such force is immediately necessary for the purpose of protecting himself against the use of unlawful force by the other person on the present occasion.

     (2)  The use of deadly force is justifiable under this section if the actor believes that deadly force is necessary to protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping, rape, or forcible sodomy.

     (3)  Except as otherwise provided in subsections (4) and (5) of this section, a person employing protective force may estimate the necessity thereof under the circumstances as he believes them to be when the force is used without retreating, surrendering possession, doing any other act which he has no legal duty to do, or abstaining from any lawful action.

     (4)  The use of force is not justifiable under this section:

and so forth

It seems like everyone likes to think in worst case scenarios, two 6'5", +300lb'ers raping your wife and kids, what would you do situations. In the grand scheme of things, that is highly, I mean highly unlikely. With that said, I like to plan for worst case scenario too. In which case all bets are off when the safety of my loved one are concerned and someone is dying for putting their hands on them. I'm sure the majority of you out their feel the same. Here is the thing though, that is maybe the 1% of home invasions. Tell me, when was the last time there was a headline like that? I know, I know what if? If your planning on worst case scenario, ask yourself, did you prepare for the other 99% of the time? I don't have any statistics but probably a good majority of would be criminals would pass your house if your lights would turn (i.e. motion sensor lights) A good motion sensor light cost less than $20 bucks. I think $20 is worth your family's safety? How about a good deadbolt? There are lots of things that would deter a good majority of worst case scenarios. So why not make the percentages work in your favor? Personally I'd rather not shoot anyone if I could help it.

When you live on an island with a major meth addiction problem, for example, you can't predict what situations you might face. 

Here's a "what if"... what if you worked at the Xerox building and had a concealed weapon when Byran Uyesugi brought his guns to work that day? 

No one is saying there is a good chance that the worst case will actually happen.  But what if it does?  What if you made the conscious decision to play the odds?  What if it resulted in your mother and father being killed right in front of you, and you were powerless to protect them?

Police officers and the military train all the time for the worst case scenario.  Most never face the decision to take a human life, but they are trained to act JUST IN CASE the situation arises.  There is no second place for mortal conflict.

Many choices in life don't allow for a "do over."  Maybe you don't believe it is your responsibility to protect yourself and others to the best of your ability.  If so, then you are perfectly free to make that choice, and you can justify it any way you wish.

I want to be free to make that choice for myself as well.

As my grandma tells me, if "ifs" & "ands" were pots and pans the world would be a kitchen.  Hahahhaha

When you live on an island with a major meth addiction problem, for example, you can't predict what situations you might face. 

Here's a "what if"... what if you worked at the Xerox building and had a concealed weapon when Byran Uyesugi brought his guns to work that day? 

No one is saying there is a good chance that the worst case will actually happen.  But what if it does?  What if you made the conscious decision to play the odds?  What if it resulted in your mother and father being killed right in front of you, and you were powerless to protect them?

Police officers and the military train all the time for the worst case scenario.  Most never face the decision to take a human life, but they are trained to act JUST IN CASE the situation arises.  There is no second place for mortal conflict.

Many choices in life don't allow for a "do over."  Maybe you don't believe it is your responsibility to protect yourself and others to the best of your ability.  If so, then you are perfectly free to make that choice, and you can justify it any way you wish.

I want to be free to make that choice for myself as well.

Hey man I agree with you for preparing for the worst case but getting a good deadbolt and motion sensored light all are parts of preparing for the worst. Anyone who says different has got their priorities mixed up. If you got that all covered. How many rounds do you have down range in your hd firearm? How much training have you had? Do you have a weaponlight? How accessible is your firearm? If you got more 10k+ down range, cqb training etc good on you. Chances are you don't have that background. Even trained leos and military can't guarantee the safety of you loved ones in an armed conflict.

Since you like to play what if. What if that $20 deadbolt and motion sensor light would have stop the intruder from even stepping in your home. I'm not trying to say you don't have the right to protect yourself and family with a firearm but use some common sense here. If your confident in you skills with a firearm and are willing to take a shot that could hit a loved one go ahead. I've got years of military training and thousands of rounds down range and I wouldn't take that chance. Its not as easy as in the movies.