It’s interesting that Hawaii has a law specifically prohibiting the government from confiscating lawfully possessed firearms and/or ammunition, and from suspending, revoking, or limiting any permit or license concerning firearms, in the event of an emergency or disaster…

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0007_0002.htm

I always found it interesting that they threw that nugget in there. I am glad they did, just not something you would expect from Hawaii.

The NRA's marketing department is trying to figure out whether the issue is going to be good fundraising issue or not.

They are also focus-group-testing a variety of alternative solutions, such as having the ban only last 1 or 2 weeks versus a month.

More than likely, they are waiting to see what happens with complaints filed by others next week before spending their money on a lawsuit that's redundant whether or not it's bound to prevail.

This is a test ban. Even if it were a 1 week ban, 1 week turns into 1 month. Then to 3 months, then 6, and so on.

Shes testing to see if the covid like emergency stripping of rights is ready. And its not cause even anti gunners like hoggy and ted lieu are against it.

So the test has failed.

This is why i also refuse to give the NRA $.

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MOre video of the protest and had some who were open carrying. I wonder if they will do a J6 and file charges against them 2 years later.

MOre video of the protest and had some who were open carrying. I wonder if they will do a J6 and file charges against them 2 years later.

That's the intent of J6 and ATF political persecutions. Sino/Soviet style intimidation.
It seems to be having the opposite effect with Americans

What this wahine is doing is insurrection written large.

IRONY:

In 2021, NM Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham signed into law the New Mexico Civil Rights Act.

The measure allows a person to litigate any deprivation of those rights, privileges
or immunities and prohibits the use of qualified immunity as a defense for depriving
a person of those constitutional civil rights.

Per a Senate amendment, claims from incidents prior to July 1, 2021 – the effective
date of the new law – may not be brought. A public body’s liability for damages under
the state Civil Rights Act is capped at $2 million.

https://www.governor.state.nm.us/2021/04/07/gov-lujan-grisham-ratifies-civil-rights-act/

In short, she weakened the state's protections under qualified immunity, and then handed gun owners the easiest slam dunk lawsuit ever that deprives owners of their constitutional rights.

You can't make this $#!% up!

By her actions and speech you know she is a stupid bitch.

IRONY:

In 2021, NM Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham signed into law the New Mexico Civil Rights Act.
https://www.governor.state.nm.us/2021/04/07/gov-lujan-grisham-ratifies-civil-rights-act/

In short, she weakened the state's protections under qualified immunity, and then handed gun owners the easiest slam dunk lawsuit ever that deprives owners of their constitutional rights.

You can't make this $#!% up!

And ACLU will remain silent cause they don't care about the 2a.

And ACLU will remain silent cause they don't care about the 2a.

I'd like to see every single CCW permit holder in the jurisdiction specified in the ban file lawsuits and be awarded the maximum $2M apiece.

Maybe that will stop these idiots from doing idiotic stuff like this.

Just thinking about one positive thing that should come from this.

Liberal anti-gun zealots laugh when anyone tells them, "The Second Amendment is not about hunting and sport shooting.  It's about defending ourselves from a tyrannical government -- foreign and domestic."

They mockingly come back with, "You're crazy if you think the government will become tyrannical."

Well, here we are, looking at a Governor using a health emergency to justify suspending constitutional rights.  If this is allowed to stand, then every state AND the feds would be able to outlaw arms for self defense outside the home in spite of Bruen.

This tyranny in NM is why our founding fathers gave us the Second Amendment   It's not some crazy conspiracy theory.

Hopefully the Left is paying attention.  What are they going to do when other protected rights are violated under color of a declared emergency?  You know, like voting?  What happens when a governor is behind in the polls and suspends elections based on some declared health emergency?

There's a lottta folks saying "no they won't enforce it" "this is unconstitutional" Can't be done"
But... It hasn't been litigated yet, or enjoined and withdrawn.
I'll feel a lot better when it is.
Remember this is only a test. If it is not shut down hard it will never end
This is some serious s**t

There's a lottta folks saying "no they won't enforce it" "this is unconstitutional" Can't be done"
But... It hasn't been litigated yet, or enjoined and withdrawn.
I'll feel a lot better when it is.
Remember this is only a test. If it is not shut down hard it will never end
This is some serious s**t

The elected Sheriff said he and his deputies will not be enforcing the firearm ban portion of the order.

i believe it's more common for elected sheriffs to uphold the constitution over government tyrants since they have to answer to the public.  Police Chiefs, on the other hand, are appointed by politicians and tend to toe the line set by their masters.

However, in this case, the overreach is so egregious, even the police chief is not on board.

Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said he won't enforce it
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/albuquerque-police-chief-balks-at-governors-emergency-order/ar-AA1gtKDc#image=1

Sheriff Allen Reiterates Stance on Gun Ban NON Enforcement

The elected Sheriff said he and his deputies will not be enforcing the firearm ban portion of the order.

i believe it's more common for elected sheriffs to uphold the constitution over government tyrants since they have to answer to the public.  Police Chiefs, on the other hand, are appointed by politicians and tend to toe the line set by their masters.

However, in this case, the overreach is so egregious, even the police chief is not on board.

Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina said he won't enforce it
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/albuquerque-police-chief-balks-at-governors-emergency-order/ar-AA1gtKDc#image=1

Sheriff Allen Reiterates Stance on Gun Ban NON Enforcement

Wow now a chief (PD) says this.

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IRONY:

In 2021, NM Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham signed into law the New Mexico Civil Rights Act.
https://www.governor.state.nm.us/2021/04/07/gov-lujan-grisham-ratifies-civil-rights-act/

In short, she weakened the state's protections under qualified immunity, and then handed gun owners the easiest slam dunk lawsuit ever that deprives owners of their constitutional rights.

You can't make this $#!% up!

Hmm I might have to fly over to New Mexico to get a piece of that. 

NM has a 2nd amendment along with open carry without a permit.

No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms. (As amended November 2, 1971 and November 2, 1986.)

And ACLU will remain silent cause they don't care about the 2a.

Basically talks about everything except the gun part.


ACLU Concerned Governor’s Public Health Order Could Lead to Over Policing
https://www.aclu-nm.org/en/press-releases/aclu-concerned-governors-public-health-order-could-lead-over-policing

And ACLU will remain silent cause they don't care about the 2a.

I guess the ACLU decided to make you a liar.   

However, they aren't objecting to the governor's order based on its unconstitutionality.  But rather, they are of the opinion that the order might result in "over-policing."

They don't like the 2nd Amendment, but they don't like the police even more.

The ACLU of New Mexico is heartbroken over the recent death of a child and shares the governor’s
concern for the well-being of our community. However, we are equally concerned that her solution to
the complicated problems of substance abuse, addiction, and gun violence is to pour more resources
into law enforcement. 

Historically, this kind of approach leads to the over policing of our communities, racial profiling, and
increased misery in the lives of already marginalized people. Instead, the governor should be following
evidence-based solutions such as meaningful diversion and violence intervention programs and addressing
the root causes of violence. The order also raises legitimate and pressing concerns about New Mexicans’
privacy.

“We are closely monitoring the legal challenges to this executive order, recognizing that many people in
our state are focused on the section related to firearms. However, we are deeply concerned about other
parts of the order, including the governor’s decision to suspend a program that helps children avoid
juvenile prison. We know that incarceration during childhood increases the likelihood that someone will
end up in the adult criminal system. Ending a program that helps young people find a different path is
counterproductive to public safety. 

While we acknowledge the severity of the fentanyl crisis, we oppose any actions that risk further
criminalizing our youth or individuals struggling with addiction.

ACLU-NM stands in support of initiatives that prioritize treatment and improve access to services to
facilitate recovery. We know these approaches are far more effective than criminalization or incarceration. 

Our organization remains committed to advocating for policies that safeguard the civil liberties and rights
of all citizens, while simultaneously addressing public health crises through compassionate, evidence-
based strategies.

https://www.krqe.com/news/politics-government/new-mexico-aclu-governors-order-suspending-open-concealed-carry-could-lead-to-over-policing/

So, instead of focusing on the actual problem (out of control crime) and an actual effort to solve it (more resources for law enforcement) they'd prefer more treatment centers for addicts.

How Liberal of them.  Protect the perpetrators, but not the law abiding victims.

None of the major gun control groups have talked about NM.  Like it didn't happen.  LOL

None of the major gun control groups have talked about NM.  Like it didn't happen.  LOL

Who do you consider the "major" gun groups?

Opps.  You said, "gun control!"  My bad!

Gun rights group sues New Mexico governor over emergency firearm ban

That challenge arrived on Saturday when the National Association for Gun Rights said it
 would file a lawsuit in federal court against the governor, citing 2021’s Bruen US supreme
court ruling easing gun restrictions.

The president of the pro-gun group, Dudley Brown, accused the governor of “throwing up a
middle finger to the constitution and the supreme court”.

“Her executive order is in blatant disregard for Bruen. She needs to be held accountable for
stripping the God-given rights of millions away with the stroke of a pen,” Brown said in a statement.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/10/new-mexico-gun-restrictions-lawsuit

SAF SUES NM GOV. LUJAN GRISHAM OVER EMERGENCY CARRY BAN

BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation has filed a federal lawsuit against New Mexico
Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham and four other officials on the grounds that the governor’s “emergency order’
prohibiting open and concealed carry in Albuquerque and surrounding Bernalillo violates the Second and
Fourteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution.

Joining SAF are the New Mexico Shooting Sports Association, Firearms Policy Coalition and a private
citizen, Zachary Fort, who resides in Bernalillo County. They are represented by Jordon George of Aragon
Moss George Jenkins, LLP who has also filed a motion for a temporary restraining order and preliminary
injunction. The lawsuit and motion were filed in U.S. District Court for the District of New Mexico.

https://saf.org/saf-sues-nm-gov-lujan-grisham-over-emergency-carry-ban/

GOA, GOF FILE SUIT AGAINST NEW MEXICO GOVERNOR’S
TYRANNICAL GUN BAN VIA “PUBLIC HEALTH ORDER”

Washington, D.C. — Late Saturday evening, Gun Owners of America (GOA) and the Gun Owners
Foundation (GOF) filed a federal lawsuit challenging New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham’s
gross and egregious violation of the U.S. Constitution through her “public health order” to unlawfully
ban the carrying of firearms in Albuquerque.

The suit, and an immediate request for a temporary restraining order/preliminary injunction, were
filed in U.S. District Court for the District of New Mexico.

https://www.gunowners.org/goa-gof-file-suit-against-new-mexico-governors-tyrannical-gun-ban-via-public-health-order/

NRA slams Democratic governor's gun order, issues harsh advice

The National Rifle Association slammed Democratic New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham
for "ignoring" the Constitution and temporarily suspending open and concealed carry across
Albuquerque and the surrounding Bernalillo County under an emergency public health order.

"In a shocking move, Governor Lujan Grisham is suspending Second Amendment rights by
administrative fiat, ignoring the U.S. Constitution and the New Mexico Constitution," NRA-ILA
Executive Director Randy Kozuch told Fox News Digital.

The NRA leader said the Democratic governor should instead cut down crime by eliminating
"soft-on-criminal policies." Police data show there have been 76 homicide victims in Albuquerque
so far this year, down from the 93 victims recorded during the same time period last year.

"Instead of undermining the fundamental rights of law-abiding New Mexicans, she should
address the soft-on-criminal policies which truly endanger its citizens," Kozuch said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nra-slams-democratic-governors-gun-order-issues-advice-what-could-actually-fix-crime-issue