Ever been to the Vegas Buffets and there are tip jars by the omelet station, the carving station, and the crepes and stir fry stations?

What's up with that?  Don't these guys make a decent wage?

Pretty soon there's gonna be tip jars every ten ft. for the buffet tray filler-uppers, the crab legs replenish craftsmen, and the peel and eat shrimp display specialists.

Oh, and let's not forget the salad and fruit arrangement artists.

Ah wait.....the dessert people......hey look, the cashier has a jar by her register......

Las Vegas is an outlier in the population of tip-hungry entities.

The first time I went to Vegas from HI, I stayed at Circus-Circus in the "remote" motel-type buildings between the casino and RV areas.

Normally, there's a automated train that shuttles guests between the casino and remote buildings similar to the shuttles between airport terminals. 

On one particular day, the shuttle was down, so the casino provided a little shuttle bus.  As I was exiting the vehicle, there was a box with a hand-written sign for tips next to the door. 

Wow.  If the shuttle was working, no tip.  With the shuttle down, the driver expects tips.  I pretended to not see the tip box when I exited.

No matter who you interact with for any reason at all, 9 times out of 10 they expect a tip.  Most would not even give you the time of day unless they believe you will tip them.

So, don't make Vegas part of the tip discussions as an example.  No other place I've visited operates on tips the way that place does.

JMHO

Someone once told me that if the waiter was bad, it is better to give a tiny tip than no tip at all. That way they get the message that the service was bad instead of thinking you forgot.

My gramma once went to a restaurant and she gave a tip that was like 14% and the waiter brought it back to tell her the tip wasn't 15% so she said thank you, took the tip cash back and walked out leaving him with nothing.

Then there is this gem from an uber eats type driver

Las Vegas is an outlier in the population of tip-hungry entities.

The first time I went to Vegas from HI, I stayed at Circus-Circus in the "remote" motel-type buildings between the casino and RV areas.

Normally, there's a automated train that shuttles guests between the casino and remote buildings similar to the shuttles between airport terminals. 

On one particular day, the shuttle was down, so the casino provided a little shuttle bus.  As I was exiting the vehicle, there was a box with a hand-written sign for tips next to the door. 

Wow.  If the shuttle was working, no tip.  With the shuttle down, the driver expects tips.  I pretended to not see the tip box when I exited.

No matter who you interact with for any reason at all, 9 times out of 10 they expect a tip.  Most would not even give you the time of day unless they believe you will tip them.

So, don't make Vegas part of the tip discussions as an example.  No other place I've visited operates on tips the way that place does.

JMHO

So some sneaky things that happen in Vegas.

If you don't tip the bellman who calls you a cab, he may tell the cabby the wrong place.  Then when you get there, you are forced to pay as they will call the cops and the cops side with the cab drivers.  This happened to us cause I heard the bellman give the wrong destination.  The cabby told me this and it's common for people not to listen while getting in.

Ate at Ramsey's Steak House at Paris. Spent $500 for just the 2 of us and only 2 glasses of wine.  The busser was doing a great job, kept my water filled and over poured Mrs. CMO's wine. But the waiter didn't give us the time of day.  Instead the waiter was more concerned with the older couple next to use who the guy was wearing a sports coat. He didn't know them as he asked them where they're from. All they ordered was 1 app, shared 1 entree and a few glasses wine each.  I doubt their bill was as big as ours. We had 3 apps, 2 entrees, 2 desserts and 2 glasses wine.  So because of this, I tipped the guy $1 but gave $50 to the busser and told him "fuck the waiter, this is for you".  At the time, we weren't getting the comps we're getting now and had to pay for our room.  I was going to tip 20% had he done his job. So he just lost out on $100. I didn't see what the other couple tipped as they paid with a card.  We both felt like because of our age, he treated us differently. The waiter never even came by after we got our food to check on us.  Didn't really bother me too much because I saved money not having to tip $100. And had the busser not been awesome, I would have saved $99.

So some sneaky things that happen in Vegas.
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One thing that i had to learn from a co-worker who just happened to be in Vegas while I was there was I'm supposed to tip housekeeping.

I'd never heard that before, and at the time, $2/night of your stay was deemed customary -- so I was told.

Since then, I've noticed other places in other states had cards out recommending tips for housekeeping.

So, if I tip them after I've checked out, I get no benefit -- no extra service for my generosity.  If I don't tip, there's no possible way for them to retaliate (like the bellman you mentioned).  Seems like a waste of a good tip when you get the service you get whether you tip at the end or not.

I mean, how many ways can housekeeping go above and beyond if you never see them?  I'd tip if they left extra towels or soap in response to my request, or if they cleaned the room or turned it down at my request outside of normal hours for those services.  I've slept in after a really long 2 days of no sleep and called housekeeping to arrange cleaning after I left for dinner.  I tipped $5 for that.

If everybody tips everybody, then the size of the tip can be smaller per tipper.  The person gets enough tips in an hour if they work hard.  But the way tipping works now, the good tippers are merely making up for the bad tippers.  Unless you leave an extremely large tip, it usually goes unnoticed as "what's expected".

Another time we were at Premium Outlet North and got in the cab line to go to Downtown Main Street hotel. The cabby said he didn; tknow where that is so go in the cab behind him.  We did and the new driver said the guy in front was full of shit, cause he just wanted a longer fair. So we tipped him $10 on a $12 cab ride.

Then another time outside Circus Circus, a cab driver slowed donw and then drove by us after we hailed him down and instead went much further down to pick up a couple who had suitcases who didn't hail him. 

Of course we've had more normal XP with cabby;s than bad ones, but it goes to show why Uber is booming instead of cabs.  I would see 15+ Ubers arrive and pick people up from the ride share area of a hotel before 1 person got into a cab.

Another time we were at Premium Outlet North and got in the cab line to go to Downtown Main Street hotel. The cabby said he didn; tknow where that is so go in the cab behind him.  We did and the new driver said the guy in front was full of shit, cause he just wanted a longer fair. So we tipped him $10 on a $12 cab ride.

Then another time outside Circus Circus, a cab driver slowed donw and then drove by us after we hailed him down and instead went much further down to pick up a couple who had suitcases who didn't hail him. 

Of course we've had more normal XP with cabby;s than bad ones, but it goes to show why Uber is booming instead of cabs.  I would see 15+ Ubers arrive and pick people up from the ride share area of a hotel before 1 person got into a cab.

The thing about Uber and Lyft is you already know what the ride will cost you before getting into the vehicle.  Tipping can be done in cash or using the app -- 100% of tips go to the driver.

With cabs, sitting in a line of cars because of a backup means you pay more for that time just sitting.  Ride shares charge for the distance between pickup and drop off.

The thing about Uber and Lyft is you already know what the ride will cost you before getting into the vehicle.  Tipping can be done in cash or using the app -- 100% of tips go to the driver.

With cabs, sitting in a line of cars because of a backup means you pay more for that time just sitting.  Ride shares charge for the distance between pickup and drop off.

I think the biggest pro when Uber type first emerged is that the driver can't take you for a ride to increase the fair.  Although we don't live in Vegas, I 'm pretty sure in the past some cabby's took us for a ride. But I didn't mind at the time because it allowed us to see more of the city. 

HNN this morning had a national thing on tipping and now 20% is the norm due to inflation that they were blaming on COVID. Some national org was on making this statement.

Tip fatigue...

(No, it's not a euphemism for E.D.   )


https://youtube.com/shorts/HxQbsXhknd0

Taking tipping away from servers would destroy restaurants. As someone who’s been a server for over a decade I can tell you they would not be able to pay me a single dollar less than what they do now. Unless you want food prices to increase 20% to cover the cost of paying good servers to stay around tipping us the best idea they have. Tips are to ensure that you get proper service. I understand that some people in the service industry have come to expect tips ( 15-20%) even with shitty service and that’s wrong, but you can’t throw out tipping as a whole.

Taking tipping away from servers would destroy restaurants. As someone who’s been a server for over a decade I can tell you they would not be able to pay me a single dollar less than what they do now. Unless you want food prices to increase 20% to cover the cost of paying good servers to stay around tipping us the best idea they have. Tips are to ensure that you get proper service. I understand that some people in the service industry have come to expect tips ( 15-20%) even with shitty service and that’s wrong, but you can’t throw out tipping as a whole.

Not true.  Prices would have to adjust to afford at least minimum wages for formerly tip-credit employees.

There are plenty of restaurants without tipping that do quite well, in particular fast food.  How many food service chains have employees making minimum wage even though employees also get tips?  Starbucks comes to mind -- in fact every store like them has a tip jar on the counter.

Food prices won't increase 20%.  Tip credits vary by state, but in Hawaii, the it's only about 9%-10%, meaning that's what the business realizes in labor savings.  A 20% tip benefits the servers an additional 10%, not the restaurant.  To break even, the restaurant only needs to raise prices by that credit amount.

Of course, that assumes the servers will work for minimum wage plus any voluntary tips they earn.  if the restaurants feel they need to raise wages to attact better employees, then the better service will normally support even higher prices.  People are often willing to pay extra for a better dining experience.

I know many Waikiki restaurants have separate menus for Japanese visitors containing higher prices because Japanese visitors don't often tip.  Those places don't seem to be closing their doors due to a good part of their customers not tipping while paying more.

Not true.  Prices would have to adjust to afford at least minimum wages for formerly tip-credit employees.

There are plenty of restaurants without tipping that do quite well, in particular fast food.  How many food service chains have employees making minimum wage even though employees also get tips?  Starbucks comes to mind -- in fact every store like them has a tip jar on the counter.

Food prices won't increase 20%.  Tip credits vary by state, but in Hawaii, the it's only about 9%-10%, meaning that's what the business realizes in labor savings.  A 20% tip benefits the servers an additional 10%, not the restaurant.  To break even, the restaurant only needs to raise prices by that credit amount.

Of course, that assumes the servers will work for minimum wage plus any voluntary tips they earn.  if the restaurants feel they need to raise wages to attact better employees, then the better service will normally support even higher prices.  People are often willing to pay extra for a better dining experience.

I know many Waikiki restaurants have separate menus for Japanese visitors containing higher prices because Japanese visitors don't often tip.  Those places don't seem to be closing their doors due to a good part of their customers not tipping while paying more.

I meant the quality of the restaurants would suffer not that the business would not be able to find some way to survive.

And I agree that people are willing to pay more for better service. Which is the entire point of tipping.

I meant the quality of the restaurants would suffer not that the business would not be able to find some way to survive.

And I agree that people are willing to pay more for better service. Which is the entire point of tipping.

I must have misunderstood "Taking tipping away from servers would destroy restaurants."

i didn't know 'quality of restaurants would suffer" meant the same as "destroy."

I need a new dictionary.

Taking tipping away from servers would destroy restaurants. As someone who’s been a server for over a decade I can tell you they would not be able to pay me a single dollar less than what they do now. Unless you want food prices to increase 20% to cover the cost of paying good servers to stay around tipping us the best idea they have. Tips are to ensure that you get proper service. I understand that some people in the service industry have come to expect tips ( 15-20%) even with shitty service and that’s wrong, but you can’t throw out tipping as a whole.

I have been to one or two restaurants in Hawaii where they had a sign saying they don't accept tips, that a good salary for the workers is covered in the price of the food. I know that made my food more expensive but I liked it better.

I have been to a couple other countries where tipping waiters is not standard and I never had a problem with poor service as a result. I think my water doesn't get filled as often without asking but the servers weren't rude or sloppy with our food.

This is how crazy tipping has gotten.

This driver is holding a $400 food order hostage trying to extort a tip from the customer.

Instead of leaving the food and moving on with her day, she's taking the food back to the store and risking getting fired.

Entitled people are everywhere and they have nothing to do with White Privilege.  It's about selfish, arrogant people who think the world owes them a comfortable living.

I'm shocked nobody called 911 to report the theft.  Once that food was paid for, it was the customer's property.  Taking it back to the store and saying a refund will be issued doesn't excuse the theft.  She could have said she's going to give the food to a soup kitchen to feed the homeless.  It doesn't matter.  The food is not hers to return or give away.   Doesn't matter if she doesn't keep it -- it's theft.

This is how crazy tipping has gotten.

This driver is holding a $400 food order hostage trying to extort a tip from the customer.

Instead of leaving the food and moving on with her day, she's taking the food back to the store and risking getting fired.

Entitled people are everywhere and they have nothing to do with White Privilege.  It's about selfish, arrogant people who think the world owes them a comfortable living.

I'm shocked nobody called 911 to report the theft.  Once that food was paid for, it was the customer's property.  Taking it back to the store and saying a refund will be issued doesn't excuse the theft.  She could have said she's going to give the food to a soup kitchen to feed the homeless.  It doesn't matter.  The food is not hers to return or give away.   Doesn't matter if she doesn't keep it -- it's theft.

I don’t know much about instacart but if it’s like serving where tipping is how you make money then I totally understand the delivery lady. At one point she says “you paid the app not me” so I’m assuming she gets paid through tipping, how do you just expect someone to complete a job knowing that you won’t get paid? This would not work in literally any other profession where a service is provided.

If you’re going to use a service like instacart there is a social contract that you sign up for. Use the service and tip the person (again I’m assuming from what I gather in the video) who is providing the service. Otherwise get your lazy fucken ass to the store and grab groceries yourself. Better yet, tell the person upfront that you aren’t going to tip them and see how that works out.

This is how crazy tipping has gotten.

This driver is holding a $400 food order hostage trying to extort a tip from the customer.

Driver was wrong in what she did.  Tips are optional and she has to do her job regardless.  I dunno how this confrontation started, but tips are supposed to be given at the end of a transaction, after all the food is delivered with good service.
But the customer also has to see it from the drivers perspective where drivers make most of their money from tips so they should at least give a small tip if it were not for the confrontation.

Driver was wrong in what she did.  Tips are optional and she has to do her job regardless.  I dunno how this confrontation started, but tips are supposed to be given at the end of a transaction, after all the food is delivered with good service.
But the customer also has to see it from the drivers perspective where drivers make most of their money from tips so they should at least give a small tip if it were not for the confrontation.

Tipping is only optional if you got shitty service or if you’re a POS person. Expecting someone to “do her job regardless” of getting paid is wild to me.

Instacart shoppers get paid separately from tips, but not a lot.

You don’t get to demand a tip under any circumstances. Don’t like the rules? Don’t work in a service job. The possibility of not getting a tip is an occupational hazard.