I doubt if anyone already getting SNAP/EBT assistance is going to surrender a gun for a Safeway or Times gift card.

And if someone has a stolen gun, the black market value is probably many times more than the $100 or $200 gift card.

I think this program attracts lazy people unwilling to spend a minute figuring out what to do with great grandpa's hunting rifle that hasn't been used in 40 years.

People who don't understand what they have (and are unwilling to learn) will give things away for free -- or almost free -- just to be rid of it.

Hmm….handguns/semi auto rifles for $100? I will offer you $101 CASH

this must violate transport and sensitive places laws as well.

I doubt if anyone already getting SNAP/EBT assistance is going to surrender a gun for a Safeway or Times gift card.

And if someone has a stolen gun, the black market value is probably many times more than the $100 or $200 gift card.

I think this program attracts lazy people unwilling to spend a minute figuring out what to do with great grandpa's hunting rifle that hasn't been used in 40 years.

People who don't understand what they have (and are unwilling to learn) will give things away for free -- or almost free -- just to be rid of it.

Funny how they say this is geared toward criminals.  Again, non gun people making rules/laws.  HPD testified that their P80 costed them $850 to make.  So add in any time that an illegal gun maker will spend on it, same gun would go for more than that.  I'm sure they Gucci'd it out a cause someone got to keep it.  So a plain jane P80 prob about $600.  A stolen gun prob about $400.  So why would a criminal turn in a stolen handgun just to get $100 and max 3 cards, when they can get cash by selling to their criminal friends.

If this were to be somewhat successful, they would have to offer at minimum more than the market rate for a gun. This buy back is more smoke and mirrors/feel good concepts.

The only thing this does is gets legal guns from people who are too lazy to sell.

Funny how they say this is geared toward criminals.  Again, non gun people making rules/laws.  HPD testified that their P80 costed them $850 to make.  So add in any time that an illegal gun maker will spend on it, same gun would go for more than that.  I'm sure they Gucci'd it out a cause someone got to keep it.  So a plain jane P80 prob about $600.  A stolen gun prob about $400.  So why would a criminal turn in a stolen handgun just to get $100 and max 3 cards, when they can get cash by selling to their criminal friends.

If this were to be somewhat successful, they would have to offer at minimum more than the market rate for a gun. This buy back is more smoke and mirrors/feel good concepts.

The only thing this does is gets legal guns from people who are too lazy to sell.

It also gets guns owners who are unable to sell a particular gun to turn it in for something more than $0.  This might be due to the gun's condition or the fact it might be stolen and they don't want to get caught trying to sell it.

The alternative is hand it in to HPD or destroy the receiver themselves.

someone go ask green for written permission to bring firearms onto those sensitive places, so that you can participate in the buyback.

someone go ask green for written permission to bring firearms onto those sensitive places, so that you can participate in the buyback.

Doesn't "sensitive places" only apply to licensed concealed carry?

I think the better statute section has to do with "places to keep."

  [§134-24]  Place to keep unloaded firearms other than pistols and revolvers; penalty.  (a)  Except as provided in section 134-5, all firearms shall be confined to the possessor's place of business, residence, or sojourn; provided that it shall be lawful to carry unloaded firearms in an enclosed container from the place of purchase to the purchaser's place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places upon change of place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places and the following:

     (1)  A place of repair;

     (2)  A target range;

     (3)  A licensed dealer's place of business;

     (4)  An organized, scheduled firearms show or exhibit;

     (5)  A place of formal hunter or firearm use training or instruction; or

     (6)  A police station.

     "Enclosed container" means a rigidly constructed receptacle, or a commercially manufactured gun case, or the equivalent thereof that completely encloses the firearm.

     (b)  Any person violating this section by carrying or possessing an unloaded firearm other than a pistol or revolver shall be guilty of a class C felony. [L 2006, c 66, pt of §1]

There's no exception for the Dept of Health or Dept of Transportation.  The law is what it is. For the Governor or any other government entity to designate them as legal for having firearms smacks of more government overreach. 

Why are there no exceptions for gun buybacks in the law?  for all the time the legislators spend passing anti-gun laws, this one change would not have been difficult to pass. 

Of course, it requires that the legislators understand what's in HRS 134 to start with.

someone go ask green for written permission to bring firearms onto those sensitive places, so that you can participate in the buyback.

You cannot get permissions for sensitive places.  1250 Punchbowl is owned by the state and so is it's parking lot.  The law states:

"    "§134-A  Carrying or possessing a firearm in certain locations and premises prohibited; penalty.  (a)  A person with a license issued under section 134-9, or authorized to carry a firearm in accordance with title 18 United States Code section 926B or 926C, shall not intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carry or possess a loaded or unloaded firearm, whether the firearm is operable or not, and whether the firearm is concealed or unconcealed, while in any of the following locations and premises within the State:

     (1)  Any building or office owned, leased, or used by the State or a county, and adjacent grounds and parking areas, including any portion of a building or office used for court proceedings, legislative business, contested case hearings, agency rulemaking, or other activities of state or county government"

So if the gun is in your trunk, then you aren't posessing it.  But if you were to walk on property with the gun in a locked case and you're a CCW holder, then you're breaking the law.

You cannot get permissions for sensitive places.  1250 Punchbowl is owned by the state and so is it's parking lot.  The law states:

"    "§134-A  Carrying or possessing a firearm in certain locations and premises prohibited; penalty.  (a)  A person with a license issued under section 134-9, or authorized to carry a firearm in accordance with title 18 United States Code section 926B or 926C, shall not intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carry or possess a loaded or unloaded firearm, whether the firearm is operable or not, and whether the firearm is concealed or unconcealed, while in any of the following locations and premises within the State:

     (1)  Any building or office owned, leased, or used by the State or a county, and adjacent grounds and parking areas, including any portion of a building or office used for court proceedings, legislative business, contested case hearings, agency rulemaking, or other activities of state or county government"

So if the gun is in your trunk, then you aren't posessing it.  But if you were to walk on property with the gun in a locked case and you're a CCW holder, then you're breaking the law.

If it's in your trunk, then you still have control of it.  I think a case for "possession" would have to hinge on whether control has to be immediate versus in general. 

You cannot get permissions for sensitive places.  1250 Punchbowl is owned by the state and so is it's parking lot.  The law states:

"    "§134-A  Carrying or possessing a firearm in certain locations and premises prohibited; penalty.  (a)  A person with a license issued under section 134-9, or authorized to carry a firearm in accordance with title 18 United States Code section 926B or 926C, shall not intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carry or possess a loaded or unloaded firearm, whether the firearm is operable or not, and whether the firearm is concealed or unconcealed, while in any of the following locations and premises within the State:

     (1)  Any building or office owned, leased, or used by the State or a county, and adjacent grounds and parking areas, including any portion of a building or office used for court proceedings, legislative business, contested case hearings, agency rulemaking, or other activities of state or county government"

So if the gun is in your trunk, then you aren't posessing it.  But if you were to walk on property with the gun in a locked case and you're a CCW holder, then you're breaking the law.

Bummer, I guess law abiding CCW permit holders cannot participate in the first annual Gift Cards for Guns event. Ainokea carry permit holders can still get their giftcards tho, woohoo!

Also, cops wont have to ask you any questions to arrest you, and so they wont have to violate the no questions asked part of the flyer. GET ON THE GROUND! STOP RESISTING!

The banana republik can take their buy back and shove it gingerly up their arse!

A picked up a semi-auto .22 not long ago for about $200 off the classifieds.
At least now I know I got a good deal. I should’ve just given him a grocery store gift card. 
Pretty sure he would’ve told me where I could put it though.

Zero positive comments on various news facebook pages.

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Zero positive comments on various news facebook pages.

Thanks for that detailed report.

 

Thanks for that detailed report.

 

Update to the detailed report, 1 positive comment. Comment was basically thanking the state for thinking outside the box. Like buy backs are a new thing.

Update to the detailed report, 1 positive comment. Comment was basically thanking the state for thinking outside the box. Like buy backs are a new thing.

There are people (mostly under age 25) who actually think nothing that happened before their birth is important enough to know.

I can see the struggle.  With so much information shoveled down our throats faster than we can click a screen, it's a wonder anyone has time to study events that happened before they learned to walk.

The Honolulu Police Department reported that it participated in four gun buyback
programs since 1992. Each buyback event lasted two weeks. The most recent
was held seventeen years ago in 2000.

The program offered $50 Foodland gift certificates, with a “no questions asked” policy.

A goal of receiving at least 250
firearms was set, but after the first week, police received only 82 firearms. Of
those 82 guns, 44 were handguns, 33 were rifles, and five were shotguns. No
assault weapons were turned in. After an additional week, a total of 338 firearms
was received. Police checked each gun to determine whether it was stolen, and
then the collected firearms were sent to a metal recycling company to be
shredded. A total of 1,498 firearms was collected during the four buyback
programs.

https://ag.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/2018-Report-on-Review-of-Gun-Amnesty-Programs-in-Other-States.pdf

I've seen bills proposed in 2013 and later to have more buybacks, but most were not approved likely due to funding.

Can you imagine someone turning in a match grade M1A for $200 

Or a pre 64 model 70 for $100

Or a model 29 for $100

You know it’s gonna happen.

Can you imagine someone turning in a match grade M1A for $200 

Or a pre 64 model 70 for $100

Or a model 29 for $100

You know it’s gonna happen.

I will buy any of the above for $300 each.

hope the card isn't for foodland, I hate the ala moana store.

It’s Foodland . https://www.khon2.com/local-news/hawaiis-new-gun-buyback-concept-turn-in-a-firearm-receive-a-gift-card/amp/

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