Hawaii gun buy back soon (Read 22540 times)

Brystont1

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #100 on: October 22, 2023, 08:14:47 PM »
Suckers.

Seen the polymer AR too. Trash gun, but some what collectable

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Seen the picture with all of those revolvers too. Seen a ruger Blackhawk and a bunch of S&W.

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stangzilla

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #102 on: October 23, 2023, 08:13:39 AM »
Seen the picture with all of those revolvers too. Seen a ruger Blackhawk and a bunch of S&W.

too bad Ruger and S&W owners are dumb asses. they could've sold that stuff for more money.
goes to show you what stupid people we have here in hawaii

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #103 on: October 23, 2023, 08:31:51 AM »
too bad Ruger and S&W owners are dumb asses. they could've sold that stuff for more money.
goes to show you what stupid people we have here in hawaii

Or revolver owners are dumbasses......BBBUUURRRNNNNNNN.  :rofl:

QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #104 on: October 23, 2023, 08:37:03 AM »
Because Hawaii's leaders, agencies, and Department Heads have historically shown to be corrupt they should be transparent when it comes to destroying these firearms.

How secure and transparent is the pathway of firearms from that parking lot to the shredding machine and everything else in-between?

If there were, say, 500 firearms collected, is it enough for the guy at the shredder to "count" and make sure there is 500 firearms before shredding?  What's stopping a SW 29 valued at $1000 plus turned in to be replaced by a Hawes .22 revolver valued at $100?  To most of these asshats a firearm is a firearm and wouldn't know the difference.

I'm not saying this is happening.  I'm saying how does people like me in the public be assured? 

This is why conspiracy theorists (like me) are born.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

stangzilla

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #105 on: October 23, 2023, 08:42:29 AM »
Or revolver owners are dumbasses......BBBUUURRRNNNNNNN.  :rofl:

that hurt my feelings, bro.   :( :(

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #106 on: October 23, 2023, 08:53:50 AM »
that hurt my feelings, bro.   :( :(

lol.

On a side note, Komrade Green was on the KHON2 this morn. quotes:

""We saw a few officers lose their lives a few years ago. Those high power guns dont need to be in society"

"we did the buy back to help the girl that got shot in the head".

"Society doesnt need that many guns, there was even a machine gun"

oldfart

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #107 on: October 23, 2023, 09:27:28 AM »
lol.

On a side note, Komrade Green was on the KHON2 this morn. quotes:

""We saw a few officers lose their lives a few years ago. Those high power guns dont need to be in society"

"we did the buy back to help the girl that got shot in the head".

"Society doesnt need that many guns, there was even a machine gun"
...
What, Me Worry?

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #108 on: October 23, 2023, 09:31:57 AM »
Forgot to mention Chief Ballard said something similar during her PC to push the mag ban bill. "This black strip on my badge is why we need this bill".  Next to her was the EMT chief, Senator Chris Lee, I don't remember if Komrade Karl was there.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #109 on: October 23, 2023, 09:57:54 AM »

https://www.kitv.com/news/local/oahu-gun-buyback-event-raises-concerns-in-the-community/article_12fcf2e6-714c-11ee-a540-ab4a84904792.html

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Firearm violence remains the leading cause of death for children in the United States.

That's a lie.  That "statistic" includes anyone under the age of 19!

Sliding the scale to "under 19" catches anyone who is "18 years old", too.  Tricky little device to skew the stats.

There are various contexts in which someone is judged to be an adult, but 18 is in the legal sense where a person is no longer their parents' legal responsibility.

18 also happens to be the age where kids out of high school get involved with gangs full time, which is how most of these "children" wind up on the wrong side of a gun.

Then you have to take into account that suicides involving those between 14-17 y.o. account for 38% of "child' firearm deaths.  Using the term "firearm violence" has been explored on here, and this is a great example of how the term is ambiguous enough to increase "firearm deaths among children" by more than a third of the total.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #110 on: October 23, 2023, 10:52:23 AM »
That's a lie.  That "statistic" includes anyone under the age of 19!

Sliding the scale to "under 19" catches anyone who is "18 years old", too.  Tricky little device to skew the stats.

There are various contexts in which someone is judged to be an adult, but 18 is in the legal sense where a person is no longer their parents' legal responsibility.

18 also happens to be the age where kids out of high school get involved with gangs full time, which is how most of these "children" wind up on the wrong side of a gun.

Then you have to take into account that suicides involving those between 14-17 y.o. account for 38% of "child' firearm deaths.  Using the term "firearm violence" has been explored on here, and this is a great example of how the term is ambiguous enough to increase "firearm deaths among children" by more than a third of the total.

This is how they control us. Change the definition of things.

macsak

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #111 on: October 23, 2023, 11:07:15 AM »
it's even more of a lie
the age range is 1-19
this eliminates problems at or just after birth
lies, damn lies, and statistics...

That's a lie.  That "statistic" includes anyone under the age of 19!

Sliding the scale to "under 19" catches anyone who is "18 years old", too.  Tricky little device to skew the stats.

There are various contexts in which someone is judged to be an adult, but 18 is in the legal sense where a person is no longer their parents' legal responsibility.

18 also happens to be the age where kids out of high school get involved with gangs full time, which is how most of these "children" wind up on the wrong side of a gun.

Then you have to take into account that suicides involving those between 14-17 y.o. account for 38% of "child' firearm deaths.  Using the term "firearm violence" has been explored on here, and this is a great example of how the term is ambiguous enough to increase "firearm deaths among children" by more than a third of the total.

macsak

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #112 on: October 23, 2023, 11:08:00 AM »
and it was #1 for only one year, yet they are still counting it as number one like it is always that way...

it's even more of a lie
the age range is 1-19
this eliminates problems at or just after birth
lies, damn lies, and statistics...

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #113 on: October 23, 2023, 11:12:01 AM »
and it was #1 for only one year, yet they are still counting it as number one like it is always that way...

WOw.

DId they ever say why it was #1 for that year?

macsak

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #114 on: October 23, 2023, 11:38:16 AM »
WOw.

DId they ever say why it was #1 for that year?

it's always close if they count it that way...

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #115 on: October 23, 2023, 11:41:24 AM »
it's always close if they count it that way...



"In my opinion"  the reply is "I don't know if they disclosed what made it #1 that year".

macsak

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #116 on: October 23, 2023, 11:45:24 AM »
dude, if they were going to lie to make it number one, they wouldn't only do it for one year
focus...



"In my opinion"  the reply is "I don't know if they disclosed what made it #1 that year".

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #117 on: October 23, 2023, 11:46:46 AM »
dude, if they were going to lie to make it number one, they wouldn't only do it for one year
focus...

"in my opinion"

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #118 on: October 23, 2023, 11:54:56 AM »
Up until 2019 at least, automobile deaths were the #1  cause of "child fatalities".  During the pandemic, when schools were closed, businesses were shuttered, and people were advised to stay home, there were fewer people driving including 16-19 year olds -- just happens to be within the group having the most car crashes: 16-26.

Firearms were second for the longest time, with drowning a distant 3rd.

For any stat you can pick a given year or other period of time in order to make things look better or worse than other times.

Still, the inclusion of 18-19 year olds and a 38% suicide rate among their "child" grouping shows how dishonest these people are, and how willingly the media spreads this lies without an ounce of fact-checking.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: Hawaii gun buy back soon
« Reply #119 on: October 23, 2023, 02:19:33 PM »
What is "Hawaiʻi Dept.of Law Enforcement "?
What, Me Worry?