Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms (Read 5305 times)

ren

Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« on: December 17, 2023, 09:11:47 PM »
https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/state-firework-drop-off-doesnt-spark-much-interest/

On Sunday, the state Department of Law Enforcement hosted a firework amnesty event where people could drop off unwanted fireworks to four different fire stations across Oahu; Mililani Mauka, Waipahu, Kapolei and Kakaako.

The Dept. of Law Enforcement held a similar event back in October. The gun buyback event brought long lines of cars waiting to drop off their unwanted firearms in exchange for gift cards. That event brought in over 500 firearms ranging in all types of guns including semi-automatic rifles and ghost guns.

On Sunday, each fire station accepting unwanted fireworks was empty with no lines.

“People can possess firearms legally, but most fireworks, most of the illegal ones, are violation of the law so it’s been a little slower than we anticipated,” explained Department of Law Enforcement Director Jordan Lowe. “Although we have recovered about 400 pounds so far this morning.”
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hvybarrels

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2023, 10:08:49 PM »
We need a tax buyback where the government returns all the money they stole from us without paying a penalty
The problem governments are trying to solve is the existence of your freedom.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2023, 10:55:58 AM »
Last night, someone near my house must have decided to get rid of their illegal aerials ... by lighting them.

The report of that bomb (no other way to describe it) rocked the entire area, setting off dozens of car alarms and scaring my pets to death.

Those types will never stop buying fireworks, and they absolutely won't voluntarily turn them in.

i highly doubt HPD has any plans of doing a sting to catch illegal buyers.  Again, too many of their friends and family would be caught.

I imagine the only people turning them in didn't pay for them, are scared to have them in their house, and/or know the fireworks are too old or damaged to be used.

The person setting off that bunker buster last night isn't concerned with anything other than having fun -- something someone on here seems to think takes precedence over the law, the health of others, the treatment of other people's pets, ...
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2023, 01:43:22 PM »
Kind of interesting,  I disagree with most all Hawaii Fireworks and gun laws.
I'll probably do 4th of July in WA state getting my illegal fireworks from the reservation
and shoot my un-registered guns( all my guns are in WA state).

I suspect gun buy backs came from widows, were old useless guns, or guns  they could not sell because of Hawaii laws,
You'd have to admit you had an unregistered gun.  I think that is a class B misdemeanor, per gun?
Anecdotally, there are lots of unregistered guns on the BI.  I'm sure the other islands aren't much different.
As far as Fireworks, I don't do them here in Hawaii as I don't want to be rounding up cows at 10 P.M.
I don't have pet animals in WA state.
Although there are deer and black bears in the yard daily.

Enjoy your fireworks and illegal guns in 2024.  I'd be the last to turn you in.
 :shaka:





 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2023, 03:58:37 PM »
Kind of interesting,  I disagree with most all Hawaii Fireworks and gun laws.
I'll probably do 4th of July in WA state getting my illegal fireworks from the reservation
and shoot my un-registered guns( all my guns are in WA state).

I suspect gun buy backs came from widows, were old useless guns, or guns  they could not sell because of Hawaii laws,
You'd have to admit you had an unregistered gun.  I think that is a class B misdemeanor, per gun?
Anecdotally, there are lots of unregistered guns on the BI.  I'm sure the other islands aren't much different.
As far as Fireworks, I don't do them here in Hawaii as I don't want to be rounding up cows at 10 P.M.
I don't have pet animals in WA state.
Although there are deer and black bears in the yard daily.

Enjoy your fireworks and illegal guns in 2024.  I'd be the last to turn you in.
 :shaka:

So, what's your viewpoint when your neighbors decide to shoot aerials over your property, scaring your cows and making you spend hours trying to find and herd them back home?

It's one thing to decide for yourself to not shoot fireworks in order to avoid scaring your livestock.  However, it's another when you suffer the same problem because of others having fun, isn't it?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2023, 06:20:46 PM »
I kinda like them. It’s a horrific waste of money and I would never buy them myself but when one goes off nearby it always sounds like “f the government” and gives me a little hope that I’m not totally surrounded by sheep
The problem governments are trying to solve is the existence of your freedom.

ren

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2023, 07:10:02 PM »
I kinda like them. It’s a horrific waste of money and I would never buy them myself but when one goes off nearby it always sounds like “f the government” and gives me a little hope that I’m not totally surrounded by sheep

same here but there's a time for them. It wouldn't be such a problem if people waited for NYE instead of setting them off in the wee hours throughout the year. That's why we can't have nice things...
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groveler

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2023, 07:24:59 PM »
So, what's your viewpoint when your neighbors decide to shoot aerials over your property, scaring your cows and making you spend hours trying to find and herd them back home?

It's one thing to decide for yourself to not shoot fireworks in order to avoid scaring your livestock.  However, it's another when you suffer the same problem because of others having fun, isn't it?
I know you read some of my comments.
I remind you all my neighbors have the same animal problems, I have,
so we are all pretty quiet here.
We generally all live on 5 or more acre lots so we are not that close together.
so a few bottle rockets aren't a problem.

Besides if someone has too much fun they'll
be the ones helping me catch the cows.  The cows may very well end up in their yards
and my neighbors have some really nice gardens and small farms.
My donkey got out one day and pretty well destroyed one of the
neighbors fruit frees before I could catch and get a harness on the animal.
His name is "Buddy",  good guard Donkey.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all.
 :thumbsup: :shaka:



QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2023, 09:51:45 AM »
same here but there's a time for them. It wouldn't be such a problem if people waited for NYE instead of setting them off in the wee hours throughout the year. That's why we can't have nice things...

Like anything else, adhere to the rules as to when you can set them off.  And when you need to stop.  This way people with pets and people who are sensitive to the noise and smoke etc. can at least prepare for it.

We are all trying to live together as a society, and we all have different enjoyment activities.  What makes it work is if we respect that.

Just my 2.35678 cents. :shaka:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2023, 09:07:29 AM »
Another bunker buster was released about 9pm yesterday.

Not as Earth-shaking as the previous, but still above average.

One has to imagine there's tons more where that came from if they aren't worried about running out before New Year/s Eve.

 :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2023, 12:18:14 PM »
Another bunker buster was released about 9pm yesterday.

Not as Earth-shaking as the previous, but still above average.

One has to imagine there's tons more where that came from if they aren't worried about running out before New Year/s Eve.

 :wacko:

Where I live it's been a regular occurrence over the past 10 years or so.  It's the same general area from the view of my house.  One area is to the north side of my house and the other area is on the eastern side behind my house.  These two areas always set off aerial fireworks starting from after Thanksgiving all the way to couple of days after New Years.

Of course it's a 360 degree view when NYE comes around.  It seems to rival NYE on the Vegas Strip at times.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

RSN172

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2023, 08:22:08 AM »
No one sets of any fireworks where I live on the BI. NYE is dead quiet like all the other nights except when someone is shooting at something.

But that is just an occasional occurrence.  People around me use their money to buy food and other necessities, not blow them up.
Happily living in Puna

ren

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2023, 08:45:05 AM »
its cringey when I see a middle aged person light off an aerial and run off. also cringey when I hear people say it is to "scare off evil spirits" grow up. c'mon man!
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QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2023, 09:18:32 AM »
its cringey when I see a middle aged person light off an aerial and run off. also cringey when I hear people say it is to "scare off evil spirits" grow up. c'mon man!

Yep.  And it doesn't work.  Evil is everywhere nowadays.  Almost seems like it has an opposite effect.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2023, 10:47:15 AM »
its cringey when I see a middle aged person light off an aerial and run off. also cringey when I hear people say it is to "scare off evil spirits" grow up. c'mon man!

What if exploding fireworks terrorizing pets and neighbors is the evil?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rpoL98

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2024, 09:41:16 AM »
this year, just like all previous years, Waipahu was ape-shit crazy with aerials and industrial-grade firecrackers.  no change as far as I can tell, however residual red paper rubbish seems to be a lot less.  JMHO.

Happy New Year!   ;D

ren

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2024, 09:54:22 AM »
perfect example of how laws intended to curb a certain type of activity won't work. Apply this to firearms and only those law-abiding citizens are disarmed.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/01/01/illegal-fireworks-light-up-oahus-sky-new-years-keeping-first-responders-busy/
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hvybarrels

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2024, 10:09:48 AM »
Yep.  And it doesn't work.  Evil is everywhere nowadays.  Almost seems like it has an opposite effect.

I beg to differ. Over the past couple of years I just watched people that I thought I knew go completely insane over a case of the sniffles.
If the evil was allowed to prevail I would be in a concentration camp right now, but enough normies snapped out of it and told our local kine globalist toadies to go f themselves.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/25/nearly-half-of-democrats-support-putting-unvaccinated-americans-in-camps/

When the smoke blows through my window on NYE it gives me some hope that the human spirit won't be so easily crushed by Governor Greed and Chief Wiggum
The problem governments are trying to solve is the existence of your freedom.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2024, 10:23:57 AM »
I beg to differ. Over the past couple of years I just watched people that I thought I knew go completely insane over a case of the sniffles.
If the evil was allowed to prevail I would be in a concentration camp right now, but enough normies snapped out of it and told the globalists to go f themselves.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/25/nearly-half-of-democrats-support-putting-unvaccinated-americans-in-camps/

When the smoke blows through my window on NYE it gives me some hope that the human spirit won't be so easily crushed by Governor Greed and Chief Wiggum

If someone is going to break the law, it should be in furtherance of civil liberties or a need greater than the risk of penalties for noncompliance.

Someone robbing a liquor store isn't exercising their liberty by defying the law.  Same for rapists, murderers, and home invaders.

I believe refusing to follow any law -- including those banning certain fireworks -- should not be characterized as "telling the gov't to go f themselves."  They are merely indulging themselves because enforcement of certain laws lets them get away with it.  Nothing more.

Kind of like having 30 rd mags for your AR.  It's not an act of defiance when an ambiguous law isn't being enforced.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: Hawaii loves fireworks over firearms
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2024, 11:04:26 AM »
    Annually,  I usually hear and see NYE spectacular fireworks displays in Hauula from about 8pm to 1am.
Was 80% quieter this year.
Started later with less thru the night and ended right after midnight.
I guess biden-omics is working !   :crazy:

this year, just like all previous years, Waipahu was ape-shit crazy with aerials and industrial-grade firecrackers.  no change as far as I can tell, however residual red paper rubbish seems to be a lot less.  JMHO.

Happy New Year!   ;D
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