To me this was the magic of Vegas:

24 hr cafes with cheap graveyard specials.  You didn't have to worry about finding a place to eat after a night of drinking and gambling.

Buffets everywhere.  Most of them were reasonably priced.  Some were dirt cheap (you get what you paid for, lol!) and some were priced higher for better items.  It was fun to go to all of them.

$5 minimum tables everywhere.  Even $3 at some places.  Gambling was fun and enjoyable for everyone with a modest budget.

"Free" rooms for moderate play.  A nice touch if you were going to gamble anyway.  And generous food and drink comps were the norm.

Now most of the cafes are no longer 24 hr.  And not all of them offer graveyard specials.  Some resorts don't even have cafes anymore.  Only "food halls" with small portioned foods for ridiculous prices.

Buffets are going the way of the do-do bird.  Downtown only has one buffet left.  It used to be that almost every casino had a buffet of some sort.  Now the buffets are close to $100 per person.

As far as table games, there was no such thing as limited hours table games.  It was always open, all hours of the day.  No more.  And the $3 and $5 minimums are also becoming extinct.

And needless to say, the players club of every resort and casino sucks.  Vegas is a cash-grab destination now.

There is no difference between Vegas and back home in my opinion.  Vegas used to be a 24 hour food and entertainment destination.

Now it's becoming just like at home, where food and entertainment has hours of operation.

To me this was the magic of Vegas:

24 hr cafes with cheap graveyard specials.  You didn't have to worry about finding a place to eat after a night of drinking and gambling.

Buffets everywhere.  Most of them were reasonably priced.  Some were dirt cheap (you get what you paid for, lol!) and some were priced higher for better items.  It was fun to go to all of them.

$5 minimum tables everywhere.  Even $3 at some places.  Gambling was fun and enjoyable for everyone with a modest budget.

"Free" rooms for moderate play.  A nice touch if you were going to gamble anyway.  And generous food and drink comps were the norm.

Now most of the cafes are no longer 24 hr.  And not all of them offer graveyard specials.  Some resorts don't even have cafes anymore.  Only "food halls" with small portioned foods for ridiculous prices.

Buffets are going the way of the do-do bird.  Downtown only has one buffet left.  It used to be that almost every casino had a buffet of some sort.  Now the buffets are close to $100 per person.

As far as table games, there was no such thing as limited hours table games.  It was always open, all hours of the day.  No more.  And the $3 and $5 minimums are also becoming extinct.

And needless to say, the players club of every resort and casino sucks.  Vegas is a cash-grab destination now.

There is no difference between Vegas and back home in my opinion.  Vegas used to be a 24 hour food and entertainment destination.

Now it's becoming just like at home, where food and entertainment has hours of operation.

I remember the $3 craps at Fremont.  And if it was after the allowed time period, you can ask the pitboss if my wife can bet $3 since she's uncomfortable betting more.  Every time we asked, they said OK.

Vegas used to cater to all incomes. I wonder if they would ever revert back.  In general, gambling is up quarter after quarter, but if you read the fine print, it's the whales that caused this. Oct $'s were released and in general, the strip down $22 million in gambling revenue.

I remember the $3 craps at Fremont.  And if it was after the allowed time period, you can ask the pitboss if my wife can bet $3 since she's uncomfortable betting more.  Every time we asked, they said OK.

Vegas used to cater to all incomes. I wonder if they would ever revert back.  In general, gambling is up quarter after quarter, but if you read the fine print, it's the whales that caused this. Oct $'s were released and in general, the strip down $22 million in gambling revenue.

I hope Vegas eventually goes back to catering to the masses, which were the everyday average American gambler.  I know Resorts World and that other Asian Resort (closed now) were specifically targeted for the Asian High Rollers.  And all the casinos in Vegas had those Asian themed slots everywhere.

I remember the Fremont's $3 tables, especially the craps table.  I have never seen that table empty.  Loved playing craps at the Fremont.

My wife and I are headed towards Vegas (Downtown) at the end of the year.  I used to be so excited for weeks on end prior to the trip but nowadays I'm more like......meh.

What makes it worse is BIL and SIL are coming too.  Wife and I tried to be discreet about it but they found out about it and now they coming.  Sh*t.  SIL is fine as a Vegas companion but damn, that husband of hers.........

 

i think part of the revenue problem Vegas is experiencing has to do with the increased number of casinos and card rooms all over the country.  There's also the online gaming.  All of this competition SHOULD have nudged Vegas to lean more toward the vacation experience and not trying to get more and more income from the visitors they still receive.

Parking fees, resort fees, higher minimum table bets, shorter casino operating hours, higher food prices, expensive show tickets, fewer/less generous comps, and so forth show a leaning toward making the experience all about increased revenue at the expense of pleasing the visitors.  You want a great trip?  Gotta pay!

i think part of the revenue problem Vegas is experiencing has to do with the increased number of casinos and card rooms all over the country.  There's also the online gaming.  All of this competition SHOULD have nudged Vegas to lean more toward the vacation experience and not trying to get more and more income from the visitors they still receive.

Parking fees, resort fees, higher minimum table bets, shorter casino operating hours, higher food prices, expensive show tickets, fewer/less generous comps, and so forth show a leaning toward making the experience all about increased revenue at the expense of pleasing the visitors.  You want a great trip?  Gotta pay!

Very true.  I'm determined to find those great prime rib special deals that used to be so common back in the day.  Also the steak and eggs graveyard specials for $2.99 (yeah, right, lol!!).

But I'm gonna try.  Yeah, the food might border on mediocre, but that is the fun part of Vegas for me.  Gamble, drink, get tipsy then at 2 or 3am go to the cafe and eat leather steak and eggs or prime rib that was left under the warmer too long. 

Some Hawaii people seek out spam musubi, loco moco, and ramen while in Vegas.  I don't.  I can get that anytime when at home.

In Vegas I seek out stuff I usually don't eat at home.  So I'll seek out Southern BBQ places, Chicken and Waffles, or Chicken fried Steak with a side order of Gumbo.  Stuff like that.

And prime rib.  Prime Rib means Vegas, baby!

F1 last year, the $ made was released about 1-2 days after the event ended. Here we are 3 weeks later and nothing.

The Wynn bragged on how much was tipped in that 1 weeked, but left out a lot was from 1 tipper, who tipped $400K.

No traffic jams at the airport for private planes this year.

Conventions are coming back. Amazon convention was last week and getting a RSVP at a restaurant was very difficult. NFR Rodeo is this weekend.  This is how Vegas should be. F1 causes too much outside the venue to be enjoyed.

The last 4 months in a row, revenue has declined on the strip. With Oct being down 22% on the strip from last Oct.  I know a lot of people who are avoiding Vegas leading up to F1 due to the traffic.

I just saw an article mentioning about Vegas will start dis-mantling the F-1 race infrastructure.

Gee, I thought it was already gone.  Why does it take so long.

Better be gone when I head that way in 2 weeks.

First time ever I applied for casino credit so I don't have to travel with large sums of cash.  Too much anxiety going through the TSA bullcrap.
 

I just saw an article mentioning about Vegas will start dis-mantling the F-1 race infrastructure.

Gee, I thought it was already gone.  Why does it take so long.

Better be gone when I head that way in 2 weeks.

First time ever I applied for casino credit so I don't have to travel with large sums of cash.  Too much anxiety going through the TSA bullcrap.

the ETA is end of december to be completely done. Then about 5 months until they start again.

We got off the freeway by TI. They were breaking down the F1 stuff there. It took 30 mins to go 2 blocks to Palazzo.

4th month in a row that Vegas casinos had a decline in gaming revenue. The last time this happened was COVID lockdowns.  Oct down 22% on the strip. I speculate this is due to F1 traffic, people aren't going.

Still no release on F1 revenue yet.

Interesting.  I watched a Vegas Vlog (JacobslifeinVegas) and he was talking about how gambling revenue on the Strip was down but revenue Downtown was up.  Although smaller so Vegas overall is still down.

Maybe people are sick and tired of the nickel and diming on the Strip along with stuff like the F-1 bullsh*t that ties up the Strip for half a year.

Although some of the nickel and diming of the Strip you can see Downtown are starting to follow.

I think Downtown is appealing to the average Vegas visitor with average bankrolls and spending budgets.

They are the majority of the visitors that visit Vegas.

   I've done Vegas for almost 47 yrs.
Would always visit with Pops (a.k.a No.1) and after moving to Hawaii in "86", would meet him there 2x per yr.
Started 1979 at the Flamingo then other stays at Imperial, MGM Grand, Frontier, Tropicana, Paris, South Point and Strat but usually stayed at MainStreet where we were comped.
We never called it a "vacation" but rather referred to it as "work" at the craps table.
Pops loved downtown and he LOVED craps. After learning from him, I left in the black about 85% of the time but the first few years were painful.

   My fondness for LV withered at the passing of my father in 2008  who at the age of 78, suffered a heart attack (at a crap table out on a 5 mile junket  )
I've returned to LV a couple times with son or daughter, and to "toss his ashes".
Opened up the canister at the snap of the Strats X-Scream, cloud of ashes freaked out all as it appeared to be some kind of smoking malfunction while hanging out some 25ft off the tower 850ft above the ground but apparently,I was not the first to do so.

   Last years visit, the best odds bet available to me to get up was an offer by a pair attractive young ladies but I did not place that bet.

   Yes, gone are the days of the $1 shrimp cocktail, $2 tables and cheap buffets with good food as well as the good times with Pops.
Was a nice run but that table has gone cold.

Interesting.  I watched a Vegas Vlog (JacobslifeinVegas) and he was talking about how gambling revenue on the Strip was down but revenue Downtown was up.  Although smaller so Vegas overall is still down.

Maybe people are sick and tired of the nickel and diming on the Strip along with stuff like the F-1 bullsh*t that ties up the Strip for half a year.

Although some of the nickel and diming of the Strip you can see Downtown are starting to follow.

I think Downtown is appealing to the average Vegas visitor with average bankrolls and spending budgets.

They are the majority of the visitors that visit Vegas.

The clientel on the strip vs downtown are very different. DT has more your "lower class" visitors (excluding Hawaii people).  There's a reason why on the weekends, Fremont st has metal detectors set up.  And HI people aren't going as often as before covid.  When we go to Fremont, the craps table is often empty. Precovid, it's often all 4 tables are full at all hours of the day. Main Streets buffet is only the weekends now andnot daily like recovid.

And with DT's table mins $15, there is really no point for us to go there any more. 1 main reason we would go is the $5 tables.  DT is appealing to the middle income to below middle income visitor. So they get quantity vs quality.

The clientel on the strip vs downtown are very different. DT has more your "lower class" visitors (excluding Hawaii people).  There's a reason why on the weekends, Fremont st has metal detectors set up.  And HI people aren't going as often as before covid.  When we go to Fremont, the craps table is often empty. Precovid, it's often all 4 tables are full at all hours of the day. Main Streets buffet is only the weekends now andnot daily like recovid.

And with DT's table mins $15, there is really no point for us to go there any more. 1 main reason we would go is the $5 tables.  DT is appealing to the middle income to below middle income visitor. So they get quantity vs quality.

Been a few years since going, but I routinely avoid The Strip except when going to shows or certain favorite restaurants.  I also go to check out the new, fancy properties.  I'll usually play a few hands of BJ or try my luck on a Megabucks machine, but I don't spend hours gambling like I do downtown. The dealers on the Strip are not anywhere near as friendly, the table limits are at least double -- even higher on the weekends when they are busiest -- and the comps are non-existent unless you're betting double the minimum limits (an MGM pit boss actually told me that when I asked to be rated). 

I look at the Strip as an entertainment venue.  Go to eat or see a show, but play a little while waiting for reservations.  If you like to gawk at Vegas customers, the Strip is usually a better selection than downtown.  I sometimes play the high limit machines on the Strip -- the one's that aren't more than $15 for a max play.  If I'm going to play high limit games, might as well use that where it can win the most or at least break even.

I also avoid going to the Strip.  Unless as Flapp mentioned it's to go to a really nice restaurant or to see a show.

My wife and I used to love to visit the Bellagio Atrium Display that changes seasonally.  But that has soured a lot since that place is flooded with people and all of them want selfies and pics of their companions with their cellphones.  It is so crowded and packed you can't leisurely enjoy the display.  So we gave up on that, along with other stuff we used to do on the Strip.

We all like to win money gambling but the foremost reason for me is the entertainment aspect.  I play 99% craps.  Fun, stressful, exhilarating yet depressing all at the same time.  I love it.  If I really wanted to make money I'd put it in stocks, bonds, and money markets.  I gamble for fun.

Downtown had the fun players and of course it's share of grumpy party poopers whom I avoided as much as possible.

With that being said, it seems Downtown is seeing an influx of obnoxious, selfish, and rude players lately, people whose parents didn't teach manners or respect for others.

And sad to say, I'm seeing a lot of them are youngsters from Hawaii.  It used to be those youngsters would respect the "Uncles" from Hawaii but I see more and more of them trying to act like gangsta's. 

Too much Tik Tok, You Boob, and all that other social media mind poison.

Been a few years since going, but I routinely avoid The Strip except when going to shows or certain favorite restaurants.  I also go to check out the new, fancy properties.  I'll usually play a few hands of BJ or try my luck on a Megabucks machine, but I don't spend hours gambling like I do downtown. The dealers on the Strip are not anywhere near as friendly, the table limits are at least double -- even higher on the weekends when they are busiest -- and the comps are non-existent unless you're betting double the minimum limits (an MGM pit boss actually told me that when I asked to be rated). 

I look at the Strip as an entertainment venue.  Go to eat or see a show, but play a little while waiting for reservations.  If you like to gawk at Vegas customers, the Strip is usually a better selection than downtown.  I sometimes play the high limit machines on the Strip -- the one's that aren't more than $15 for a max play.  If I'm going to play high limit games, might as well use that where it can win the most or at least break even.

I agree with MGM comps as we don't get much from them.  Well I mean just comp nights at their shithole property like Excalibur.  Compare this to the same game play at Palazzo/Venetian.  We've been getting comp nights for years.  I'm a $15 table min player and Mrs. CMO is a $2-4 a spin slot player.  We haven't had to pay for a night in many years at V/P.  And they're all suites, so double the size. Compared this to a same price room at the Bellagio or Wynn.  You're getting more for your buck at V/P.  At most, we've hit their tier 2 level, which isn't that much gameplay.  But sometimes, we don't even hit that and the comps still come.  I would also say it's easier to hit V/P tier 2 than it is to hit MGM Rewards tier 2. V/P tier 2 is 3,000 points.  On average you earn 1 pt for every $4  on slots and tables are unknown rating.  Compare this to tier 2 at MGM that's 20,000pts. IDK what their ratio is, but I assume it's a 1 point for $1 on slots.  Then I was told at various MGM properties that unless you're betting green chips ($25), the play won't matter. So my $15 table min play isn't recorded.

Only recently have I been getting comps for Bellagio and Aria.  Prior to a few months ago, I've never received comps from either.  This tells me Vegas is struggling bad.  Even Wynn gives us 1 night comp every 4 months or so.  And all we do is eat at their buffet and play like $200 in slots as the $25 tables there are too rich for me.  I also saw Aria last month have $15 BJ, which is unusual since they're a $25 table type of place.

In my XP, the friendliness of dealers is the same on the strip and downtown.  I don't get much comps downtown either when we used to go visit there. But this was precovid and I was betting $5 table mins and the strip was $10. I don't play slots at all downtown.

But, the table mins downtown now are often $15, so same as the strip.  Downtown Grand has $1 BJ, but good luck getting on that table and sometimes Plaza has $5 BJ and Roulette (single 0), but it's not all the time like how it was precovid where everywhere downtown was $5 tables.  4 Queens has $10 craps and so does El-Cortez.  Fremont has $15 craps and table mins. That was a shocker.

I also avoid going to the Strip.  Unless as Flapp mentioned it's to go to a really nice restaurant or to see a show.

My wife and I used to love to visit the Bellagio Atrium Display that changes seasonally.  But that has soured a lot since that place is flooded with people and all of them want selfies and pics of their companions with their cellphones.  It is so crowded and packed you can't leisurely enjoy the display.  So we gave up on that, along with other stuff we used to do on the Strip.

We all like to win money gambling but the foremost reason for me is the entertainment aspect.  I play 99% craps.  Fun, stressful, exhilarating yet depressing all at the same time.  I love it.  If I really wanted to make money I'd put it in stocks, bonds, and money markets.  I gamble for fun.

Downtown had the fun players and of course it's share of grumpy party poopers whom I avoided as much as possible.

With that being said, it seems Downtown is seeing an influx of obnoxious, selfish, and rude players lately, people whose parents didn't teach manners or respect for others.

And sad to say, I'm seeing a lot of them are youngsters from Hawaii.  It used to be those youngsters would respect the "Uncles" from Hawaii but I see more and more of them trying to act like gangsta's. 

Too much Tik Tok, You Boob, and all that other social media mind poison.

Next time you go, try hit up Venetian craps. It's $15 in the day time and sometimes $15 at night too. I found that the players here aren't as stuck up compared to other high end hotels.

Bubble craps and bubble crapless craps is the new hot thing.  This way you can play the don't and not feel bad too.  I haven't played table crapless craps yet, but want to try it next time. The extreme place bets 2 and 12 pay 6:1.  The 3 and 11 pay 3 to 1.

I've always wondered if pulling tips causes less friendly dealers?  Like why should I take the extra effort to be social and smile if my extra tip gets split and I end up with only pennies on the dollar?

But to me, I'd rather have a not friendly dealer, that way I don't feel obligated to tip as often.

This is 1 thing I haven't noticed changed in the years I've been going to vegas.  Like post covid, the friendliness of the dealers were the same.

I agree with MGM comps as we don't get much from them.  Well I mean just comp nights at their shithole property like Excalibur.  Compare this to the same game play at Palazzo/Venetian.  We've been getting comp nights for years.  I'm a $15 table min player and Mrs. CMO is a $2-4 a spin slot player.  We haven't had to pay for a night in many years at V/P.  And they're all suites, so double the size. Compared this to a same price room at the Bellagio or Wynn.  You're getting more for your buck at V/P.  At most, we've hit their tier 2 level, which isn't that much gameplay.  But sometimes, we don't even hit that and the comps still come.  I would also say it's easier to hit V/P tier 2 than it is to hit MGM Rewards tier 2. V/P tier 2 is 3,000 points.  On average you earn 1 pt for every $4  on slots and tables are unknown rating.  Compare this to tier 2 at MGM that's 20,000pts. IDK what their ratio is, but I assume it's a 1 point for $1 on slots.  Then I was told at various MGM properties that unless you're betting green chips ($25), the play won't matter. So my $15 table min play isn't recorded.

Only recently have I been getting comps for Bellagio and Aria.  Prior to a few months ago, I've never received comps from either.  This tells me Vegas is struggling bad.  Even Wynn gives us 1 night comp every 4 months or so.  And all we do is eat at their buffet and play like $200 in slots as the $25 tables there are too rich for me.  I also saw Aria last month have $15 BJ, which is unusual since they're a $25 table type of place.

In my XP, the friendliness of dealers is the same on the strip and downtown.  I don't get much comps downtown either when we used to go visit there. But this was precovid and I was betting $5 table mins and the strip was $10. I don't play slots at all downtown.

But, the table mins downtown now are often $15, so same as the strip.  Downtown Grand has $1 BJ, but good luck getting on that table and sometimes Plaza has $5 BJ and Roulette (single 0), but it's not all the time like how it was precovid where everywhere downtown was $5 tables.  4 Queens has $10 craps and so does El-Cortez.  Fremont has $15 craps and table mins. That was a shocker.

My usual game is a $25 min blackjack -- preferably double deck.  The higher limit keeps most of the morons from jumping in to screw up the shuffle and lose their money before jumping out.  Experienced players will pull their bets back until the moron leaves.  You see that behavior more often on the $5 and $10 tables.

Another reason is when you're 4 bets ahead on a $25 table, you might be looking to take a break before giving $100 back.  Compare that with being $40 ahead at a $10 table.  Less likely to leave while ahead.

For craps, i look for a $5 or $10 table.  I can go through a $200 buy-in quickly before winning it back and pulling ahead.  The dice can cause a really fast swing, so you need the bankroll to sustain the losses before it swings back positive.  Higher limits mean risking a larger bankroll.

I try to play only $1 machines if not in the high limit area.  Most are $2-$5 per spin, but I try to find the $3 max spin machines.  Winning a $1000 bonus is way better than a $250 bonus on a quarter machine.  Always bet max bet on a machine.  My aunt says she was playing a Megabucks machine years ago and only put 2 coins in.  She hit the Megabucks jackpot reels but only got paid the non-jackpot couple of grand.  Gotta play for the jackpot, or don't play at all!

If I'm correct, each table game assigns comp points based on a certain algorithm.  They take the table minimum, your buy-in amount, your observed average bet, the house edge for the game, and the amount of time you play and calculate the expected house take.  The numbers basically tell them what they can expect to take from you over a long period of time.  It doesn't matter if you win or lose.  From that, they add the calculated comp points to your player's card account.  You need to always hand the dealer your player's card as soon as you buy in or start betting to make sure your rating includes all of your play.  You'll notice the pit bosses checking out your play and updating the computer as your session progresses.

Since I do play mostly blackjack, I normally call the BJ pit when making reservations downtown.  They will check my ratings and put the reservation in the system for me.  That way i get the room comped right away instead having to go through the normal reservation and room deposit process.

It pays to talk to the supervisors.  I've known several at the Cal for many years -- assuming they are still there.

Tips are expected in Vegas for EVERYTHING!  If you like to tip after a session, let the dealers know so they aren't expecting it the entire time.  Or, you can tip when you first walk up to break the ice and keep them from wondering if you'll ever tip.  For me, I enjoy placing a bet for the dealers just so they have the chance at more.  A few times when I cashed out playing craps, i'll bet $10 on 11 for the dealers.  It's hit more than not.  That's a pretty good tip.  Most dealers appreciate the attempt even if they lose.  Better than getting completely stiffed.

Last month, my coworker wanted me to play $3 a spin max bet Megabucks.  I haven't played MB in about 2 years, but 2 years ago, they had them.  Last month, I went to 4 different casinos and the max bet were between $5 and 9.  They even had some with higher like the one at the Palms that is the "vault edition".  I've also notices less and less MB around. Precovid, you would easily find a cluster of them together. Now it's like 1 or 2 at the most.

Haven't been downtown this year, so IDK what megabucks set up they have, but like everythign else the strip is doing, the max bet on MB has increased. 

I found in most HL rooms, you can still bet less than $5 a spin on many machines. They may not have $0.01 or $0.05 denoms, but instead start at $0.10 and you can min bet so you're not spending $25 a spin.  And the reverse, on the casino floor, you can find besides the $0.88 penny slots to $100 max bet. But if you want the $250 a spin machines, then HL room is where you have to go.

Many machines now are multi denom. So even your penny slot has a max bet of $8+ and $12.50 isnt' uncommon. The days of $3 max bet are over as those are more rare to find.

Was at Resorts World and their HL room had $25 min BJ that pays 3:2.  Most BJ on the regular floor on the strip are 6:5, but all high limits are 3:2.  I was expecting a higher table min like $100.  Also, HL rooms have single zero roulette, but IDK what their min is.  I think Ellis Island or El Cortez has 3:2 non-high limit double deck.

Next time you go, try hit up Venetian craps. It's $15 in the day time and sometimes $15 at night too. I found that the players here aren't as stuck up compared to other high end hotels.

Bubble craps and bubble crapless craps is the new hot thing.  This way you can play the don't and not feel bad too.  I haven't played table crapless craps yet, but want to try it next time. The extreme place bets 2 and 12 pay 6:1.  The 3 and 11 pay 3 to 1.

That's pretty reasonable for Venetian.  I think the Venetian and Palazzo are very beautiful and clean properties, nicer than Bellagio in my opinion.

Looks like crapless craps are becoming more and more popular.  It's bound to find it's way Downtown, if it hadn't already.

I tried the bubble craps machines.  It's ok but it's just me.  I get paranoid that the machine is rigged even though the more logical part of me reminds me that it has an RNG just like the other types of machines.  I guess I enjoy the human aspect of the game.

When Downtown was primarily $5 minimums I liked to play the $10 craps tables because like Flapp mentioned it keeps the budget minded players (those who hold up the game and have no idea of the etiquette or don't care) away.

The worst players I can't stand is the ones who buy in for $40 and just stand there, order drinks and once in a while play $1 prop bets, waiting for a hot shooter.  When it's their turn to roll, they pass the dice.  When they lose all their buy-in, they still stand there, taking up space like leeches.  I don't know why the pit critters don't kick them out.

Maybe they were once $100 bettors and are now down and out and the casino took all their money and feel sorry for them.

That's pretty reasonable for Venetian.  I think the Venetian and Palazzo are very beautiful and clean properties, nicer than Bellagio in my opinion.

Looks like crapless craps are becoming more and more popular.  It's bound to find it's way Downtown, if it hadn't already.

I tried the bubble craps machines.  It's ok but it's just me.  I get paranoid that the machine is rigged even though the more logical part of me reminds me that it has an RNG just like the other types of machines.  I guess I enjoy the human aspect of the game.

When Downtown was primarily $5 minimums I liked to play the $10 craps tables because like Flapp mentioned it keeps the budget minded players (those who hold up the game and have no idea of the etiquette or don't care) away.

The worst players I can't stand is the ones who buy in for $40 and just stand there, order drinks and once in a while play $1 prop bets, waiting for a hot shooter.  When it's their turn to roll, they pass the dice.  When they lose all their buy-in, they still stand there, taking up space like leeches.  I don't know why the pit critters don't kick them out.

Maybe they were once $100 bettors and are now down and out and the casino took all their money and feel sorry for them.

i've seen craps dealers and supervisors ask non-players to move back when the table is getting crowded and more want to walk up.  Usually friends of players trying to learn the game or spectate but not betting themselves.  If there's room, the dealers don't usually mind.  Same for card games.  Non-players in a chair are asked to vacate the chairs if the games are busy.