Palms is doing what no other casino has done yet.  $5 Blackjack and Craps, at least 1 table of each open 24/7.  They figured out the people coming for their buffet aren't playing $15 tables.  Eat and leave.

I hope downtown goes back to $5 tables.  I mean, Downtown Grand has a $1 BJ table, but it's only 1 table and often full.  But I doubt they will as they've found their new clientel.  The cheap, middle income Vegas tourist. They don't want to eat at above average causal eats, but want cheap, shitty food.

Main Streets Buffet is back daily.  It's been weekends only since they reopened. Def not worth the price as the quality looks like it went down since precovid.  It's the only buffet downtown now.

Palms is doing what no other casino has done yet.  $5 Blackjack and Craps, at least 1 table of each open 24/7.  They figured out the people coming for th.eir buffet aren't playing $15 tables.  Eat and leave.

I hope downtown goes back to $5 tables. I mean, Downtown Grand has a $1 BJ table, but it's only 1 table and often full.  But I doubt they will as they've found their new clientel.  The cheap, middle income Vegas tourist. They don't want to eat at above average causal eats, but want cheap, shitty food.

Main Streets Buffet is back daily.  It's been weekends only since they reopened. Def not worth the price as the quality looks like it went down since precovid.  It's the only buffet downtown now.

$5 tables Downtown would be nice.  But I will settle for $10.  $15 is too much for Downtown gamblers in my opinion.

Don't laugh but the Cal used to have a mini-breakfast buffet daily at the Market St. Cafe before covid.  It was really cheap, forget what the price was but the items were minimal, just basic eggs, bacon, canned fruit, etc. and oatmeal upon request.

I really liked this mini set-up since I just wanted bacon, eggs, toast and coffee real quick before heading out for the day.  My wife loved the oatmeal upon request with canned prunes, lol!

This past trip we ventured out of our usual dining routine, partly because at many places options were sparse and their operating hours were limited.

In a way it was a good thing because we checked out Binions Cafe, Four Queen's Magnolias Cafe, and even ventured out to El Cortez to eat at Siegal's 1941 restaurant for their famous Prime Rib.  We found out they all had some pretty good stuff to offer at reasonable prices.

I'm an old fut and just like playing craps and eating at regular places so the Strip nowadays holds no interest for me.

What I find interesting is that on YouBoob there is a lot of video content of  how people are getting disgusted with the Strip and end up going to Local casinos or Downtown.

Palms is doing what no other casino has done yet.  $5 Blackjack and Craps, at least 1 table of each open 24/7.  They figured out the people coming for their buffet aren't playing $15 tables.  Eat and leave.

I hope downtown goes back to $5 tables.  I mean, Downtown Grand has a $1 BJ table, but it's only 1 table and often full.  But I doubt they will as they've found their new clientel.  The cheap, middle income Vegas tourist. They don't want to eat at above average causal eats, but want cheap, shitty food.

Main Streets Buffet is back daily.  It's been weekends only since they reopened. Def not worth the price as the quality looks like it went down since precovid.  It's the only buffet downtown now.

$1 to $10 minimum bet BJ tables are IMO beginners' tables.  i prefer tables where everyone has at least a basic idea of how to play and a rudimentary understanding of the game's strategy. 

The fewer tables with small minimums, the more often beginners will be at the higher minimum tables.

Even though I'm not interested in playing low minimum tables, I appreciate casinos offering them.

$1 to $10 minimum bet BJ tables are IMO beginners' tables.  i prefer tables where everyone has at least a basic idea of how to play and a rudimentary understanding of the game's strategy. 

The fewer tables with small minimums, the more often beginners will be at the higher minimum tables.

Even though I'm not interested in playing low minimum tables, I appreciate casinos offering them.

$3 tables at Fremont were nice. Esp since even when not at that limit, you can ask the pit boss and they would approve it.  I'm playing the $5 craps table and betting $10 mins and Mrs. CMO $3 field bets.

$3 tables at Fremont were nice. Esp since even when not at that limit, you can ask the pit boss and they would approve it.  I'm playing the $5 craps table and betting $10 mins and Mrs. CMO $3 field bets.

Yeah, when $5 was the minimum for most of the local and Downtown casinos I still played at the $10 level but it was nice to know that if I was getting killed there is that option to go down to $5 bets.

Back then once in a while the Cal and MSS would open a $10 minimum table and I would jump on that one because there are less players willing to play at the $10 level.

Yeah, when $5 was the minimum for most of the local and Downtown casinos I still played at the $10 level but it was nice to know that if I was getting killed there is that option to go down to $5 bets.

Back then once in a while the Cal and MSS would open a $10 minimum table and I would jump on that one because there are less players willing to play at the $10 level.

Since Downtown Grand has 1 $1BJ table that's often filled. Wait to get a seat and bet greens.  Piss everyone off.

Since Downtown Grand has 1 $1BJ table that's often filled. Wait to get a seat and bet greens.  Piss everyone off.

Why would that piss anyone off?  Betting more than the minimum isn't the same as playing your hand like an ignorant first-timer.  In fact, if you're on a winning streak, you'd be increasing your bets anyway to capitalize.

You can bet up to the table max on any table.  if anyone is pissed you aren't betting the minimum, they don't understand table gaming.

Why would that piss anyone off?  Betting more than the minimum isn't the same as playing your hand like an ignorant first-timer.  In fact, if you're on a winning streak, you'd be increasing your bets anyway to capitalize.

You can bet up to the table max on any table.  if anyone is pissed you aren't betting the minimum, they don't understand table gaming.

It's cause you're taking up the seat for the person who wants to bet $1 or $2.  A $25 a hand player can play at another table.

at the same time, if one is betting greens or more, then having noobs at the table who arebetting $1 isn't a good thing either.

It's cause you're taking up the seat for the person who wants to bet $1 or $2.  A $25 a hand player can play at another table.

at the same time, if one is betting greens or more, then having noobs at the table who arebetting $1 isn't a good thing either.

Cards develop a flow pattern after a bunch of shuffles, especially in single and double deck games.  if i'm playing at a $1 or $3 table, and the cards turn favorable for the players, raising the bet between that and table max is no business of anyone's other than the house and me.

According to your scenario, the pissed people are people who aren't playing and want your seat.  The other players have a seat.  Someone wanting your seat can find another table, another game, or find something else to do while they wait for a seat. 

If you really think about it, someone playing $25 hands with a $250 bankroll (10 units) will lose it faster than the guy playing $1 bets on a $50 bankroll (50 units).  Getting pissed makes zero sense to me.

  Getting pissed makes zero sense to me.

The $1 table is designed for people who cannot afford or intimidated by betting more.  Since there is only 1 table, someone who has no issue betting greens should be at a regular table so someone who wants to bet $1 can play. You are correct that it's no bodys business what you're betting, it's just a courtesy. It's the only $1 table that's always open, so people do make it a point to go to the DTG just to play it.

Look at it not from a math POV, but from a noob or someone whos intimidated at betting $15 a hand.

This is why on my last trip I was pretty upset at the Cal and MSS for not opening more tables when it got busy.  You could clearly see that many people wanted to play but there was no room on the 1 table that was open.

What is more upsetting is that the table that is open is occupied by what I call "rail birds".  They occupy a slot at the table but they are not playing.  They are waiting for a hot roller, preciously clutching their small bankroll that is clearly not enough to withstand the variance of a $15 minimum table.

When it is their turn to roll they pass the dice.  Taking up space and bringing nothing to the table.

If mgt. is not willing to chase the rail birds away, they should at least open up another table, but now labor costs or worker availability comes into play.

Maybe a new rule needs to be added.  You take up a space at the table, you must make at least one bet on every new come-out.

The rail birds will soon lose their underfunded bankroll and another person would be able to play.  Sounds cruel but I'm not the one that bumped the minimums up and only opens one table, thereby hurting the casino themselves while hurting others who came to play, shut out by the rail birds with their dreams of making millions off their $40 grocery and milk money.

The $1 table is designed for people who cannot afford or intimidated by betting more.  Since there is only 1 table, someone who has no issue betting greens should be at a regular table so someone who wants to bet $1 can play. You are correct that it's no bodys business what you're betting, it's just a courtesy. It's the only $1 table that's always open, so people do make it a point to go to the DTG just to play it.

Look at it not from a math POV, but from a noob or someone whos intimidated at betting $15 a hand.

Then, I guess casinos that only offer 0-1 table at very low minimums are being discourteous to their customers.

i have no idea if the people at a $1 table can afford to play at a $25 table or are experienced enough to know how to play.  For all I know they are just socializing with their friends or family at that table.  Forcing them to leave to play at a higher minimum table seems more discourteous by splitting them up from their group.

There's too many assumptions in your comments.  i've watched players sit at the $5 table and turn their $20 buy-in into $50.  They then take that over to a $25 table to try and turn it into $100.  They jump in, play 2-3 hands normally, then walk away when their $50 is gone.  In the process, they usually screw up a favorable shuffle -- often taking a dealer's bust card or helping them make 21.  Most experienced players will pull their bets back until that person leaves.

Courtesy isn't a big priority when gambling for the non-regulars.  It's all about making the right bet at the right table at the right time.

People are using the wrong gambling strategy in Vegas.  Spending long days and nights gambling in the smoke filled rooms.

Put down $2000 on the tables or high roller slot machines, play a few times, then call it quits and enjoy the rest of the time exploring vegas

People are using the wrong gambling strategy in Vegas.  Spending long days and nights gambling in the smoke filled rooms.

Put down $2000 on the tables or high roller slot machines, play a few times, then call it quits and enjoy the rest of the time exploring vegas

I like to engage in both of the above activities, depending on the plans for the day or if I am with my wife or family or alone by myself.

But no smoke filled rooms.  I hate smoke.

I've noticed since covid, the heavy smoke smell is like 90% reduced. When we would come home, our clothes would smell like smoke. But since covid, it hasn't.  I also don't see as many smoking as precovid.

I enjoy this.

There is 1 smoke free casino on the strip, Park MGM. But they don't have many slots or tables. 

Besides exploring, pre Buren, we went and enjoyed CCWing everywhere.  Something that couldn't be done in HI since HI wasn't issuing CCW's. 

Pin Up Pizza outside of Planet Hollywood sells 30 inch pizzas that are thin crust for $80.  What a rip off.  Maybe their target audience are drunk guys.  For 1 slice that is the size of Boston Pizza, $14 for cheese.  I'd rather go into PH's 24/7 cafe and eat there.

Pin Up Pizza outside of Planet Hollywood sells 30 inch pizzas that are thin crust for $80.  What a rip off.  Maybe their target audience are drunk guys.  For 1 slice that is the size of Boston Pizza, $14 for cheese.  I'd rather go into PH's 24/7 cafe and eat there.

This is one of countless other complaints of rip-offs on the Strip.  Ranging from cost of regular bottles of water to bar type foods costing like steak dinners.

Many YT content on people migrating to off-strip properties or Downtown.  The Strip is destroying itself.  They seem to think the affluent demographic will hold them up.

In my opinion they won't.  The F1 debacle is a good example.  The Strip is literally biting the hands that feed them.

Sure we are the minnows of the sea but there are millions and millions of us.

I have my popcorn and am watching how all of this plays out.

This is one of countless other complaints of rip-offs on the Strip.  Ranging from cost of regular bottles of water to bar type foods costing like steak dinners.

Many YT content on people migrating to off-strip properties or Downtown.  The Strip is destroying itself.  They seem to think the affluent demographic will hold them up.

In my opinion they won't.  The F1 debacle is a good example.  The Strip is literally biting the hands that feed them.

Sure we are the minnows of the sea but there are millions and millions of us.

I have my popcorn and am watching how all of this plays out.

This is why I watch the gaming numbers released every month.  Then compare it to the prior years.  The hard part is that you have to go back to pre covid to get a better idea of what the average gaming revenue was.

Vegas isn't for the middle income or less person now.  I mean you can still come to vegas as that type of income level, but good luck gambling and you have to do your homeowner before coming to find cheaper places on the strip to eat. The $9.99 steak is gone and it's now $14.99 at El Cortez. Or eat at McDonalds and get a $3 cheeseburger.  Which IMO eating is 1 fun part of a vacation. So if you're going to eat at the same fast food places you have at home like McDonalds,  then you should vacay elsewhere that's more affordable.  But this is just me, I'm a fatty.

Or you have to save your money so you can spend it there. 

This hits the HI market hard because we can't just drive over to Vegas, but must spend $400-800 to fly.  I met a local guy playing craps and he lived in VA. He was meeting family in Vegas, he said his round trip ticket from VA to Vegas was $100 or so.

This is why I watch the gaming numbers released every month.  Then compare it to the prior years.  The hard part is that you have to go back to pre covid to get a better idea of what the average gaming revenue was.

Vegas isn't for the middle income or less person now.  I mean you can still come to vegas as that type of income level, but good luck gambling and you have to do your homeowner before coming to find cheaper places on the strip to eat. The $9.99 steak is gone and it's now $14.99 at El Cortez. Or eat at McDonalds and get a $3 cheeseburger.  Which IMO eating is 1 fun part of a vacation. So if you're going to eat at the same fast food places you have at home like McDonalds,  then you should vacay elsewhere that's more affordable.  But this is just me, I'm a fatty.

Or you have to save your money so you can spend it there. 

This hits the HI market hard because we can't just drive over to Vegas, but must spend $400-800 to fly.  I met a local guy playing craps and he lived in VA. He was meeting family in Vegas, he said his round trip ticket from VA to Vegas was $100 or so.

Even before COVID, i know several women who went to Vegas for vacation every year or two, but never gambled more than $20 in a slot machine in case it was her turn to win the million$$$.  They would enjoy the hotel room, pool, food, sometimes spa treatments, live shows and 'retail therapy'. They figured instead of losing $1,000+ on games they would spend it on actual relaxation.

However, now that the properties are so expensive with resort fees, parking fees, higher food and drink prices, and so on, those expenses may convince some to opt for places where their travel budget goes further or to spend that same high amount in a tropical or ski location rather than the middle of a fricking desert!

Comps used to be the balancing factor in a Vegas vacation.  Lately, I'm not sure those are enough to justify a moderate gambler's vacation expenses given the increases in fees and prices.

Those everyday average Americans who love to visit Vegas several or more times a year are the ones who will get hit the hardest as the prices continue to climb.

I used to be one of those people.

But funny how things work out.  I'm retired now, wife and I watch our grandson and great-grandson 5 days a week and sometimes on weekends also.  The only time we catch a break and even think about a Vegas trip would be towards the end of the year when both my daughter and grandaughter (teachers) get a winter break.

So if I get lucky I can do a once a year Vegas trip.  I'm ok with that.  My spending and gambling bankrolls actually get larger and I no longer have the "joneses" to visit more often.

I enjoy craps, eating prime rib, going to low and high end buffets, and visiting 24 hr. cafes.  Rinse and repeat.  I'm afraid these are the very aspects of Vegas that are slowly going the way of the dodo bird.

Maybe then I'll change and do vacations to Japan, Okinawa, and Korea.  I heard that North Korea is relaxing it's Tourism industry so maybe I'll pay Kim Jong Un a visit.