What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh (Read 113135 times)

changemyoil66

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #440 on: July 01, 2025, 09:04:19 AM »
Yeah.  That's why I don't order anything when they come around.  They take too long to come back.  I buy a tall boy from the gift shop and lug that around the casino floor with me.  Some people say you're not supposed to but I have yet to be stopped.

I will order drinks when playing craps.  They come around fast.  Sometimes too fast.

Craps is a fast moving game so it's hard to chug beer which I like to do.  Many times I only took one swig and next thing you know she's back asking if I want another, LOL.

Not sure if that's normal but I do tip them a red chip everytime they bring me a beer. :rofl:

Since I order juice, coffee, or water, I usually get 2 at a time and tip $1. Because the water bottles are the mini ones so tipping $1 is way too much for just 1 bottle. This way getting 2 it comes out $0.50 each.  Still overpaying, but it helps reduce the cost.  I'm a $15 table min player. If I'm a $25 table min player, then I'd tip more. Add in the above of them not coming around as often like precovid, I get 2 drinks and don't have to wait 45 mins for her to come around again.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #441 on: July 01, 2025, 12:02:39 PM »
Yeah.  That's why I don't order anything when they come around.  They take too long to come back.  I buy a tall boy from the gift shop and lug that around the casino floor with me.  Some people say you're not supposed to but I have yet to be stopped.

I will order drinks when playing craps.  They come around fast.  Sometimes too fast.

Craps is a fast moving game so it's hard to chug beer which I like to do.  Many times I only took one swig and next thing you know she's back asking if I want another, LOL.

Not sure if that's normal but I do tip them a red chip everytime they bring me a beer. :rofl:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #442 on: July 03, 2025, 07:01:48 AM »
The sad part is that when playing, the waitresses don't come around as often like how they did precovid.

Tip bigger !  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

changemyoil66

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #443 on: July 03, 2025, 08:03:24 AM »
Tip bigger !  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Others at the craps table are tipping from $5-20 and it's the same speed.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #444 on: July 03, 2025, 12:12:25 PM »
Others at the craps table are tipping from $5-20 and it's the same speed.

True.  In almost every casino, the waitresses go in order by table.  When they get a full tray of orders, they go to the bar, then deliver what they had to that point.  There's little chance the waitress will be running back to a $20 tipper and ignoring everyone else.  That's just 4 times a $5 tipper, so she's losing out if she ignores more than 4 of those.

If you want VIP treatment, you have to go the the high limit table games.  Those are the ones the casino wants to make sure gets all the alcohol they can drink!

I don't really drink alcohol in Vegas.  Free drinks can make you play sloppily and make bad decisions that you wouldn't do otherwise.

Having said that, I watched a Vegas local who was out on the town drinking to get over his divorce being finalized.  The second day he found me we played at the same table from 11pm to 6am.  He staggered away with $20,000 from the same $300 max bet BJ table.  he was playing according to what he guessed the next cards would be.  i played by the book, and only made about $300.

So, sometimes the gambling gods are kind to drunks.  And he was REALLY drunk!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #445 on: July 03, 2025, 01:16:24 PM »
True.  In almost every casino, the waitresses go in order by table.  When they get a full tray of orders, they go to the bar, then deliver what they had to that point.  There's little chance the waitress will be running back to a $20 tipper and ignoring everyone else.  That's just 4 times a $5 tipper, so she's losing out if she ignores more than 4 of those.

If you want VIP treatment, you have to go the the high limit table games.  Those are the ones the casino wants to make sure gets all the alcohol they can drink!

I don't really drink alcohol in Vegas.  Free drinks can make you play sloppily and make bad decisions that you wouldn't do otherwise.

Having said that, I watched a Vegas local who was out on the town drinking to get over his divorce being finalized.  The second day he found me we played at the same table from 11pm to 6am.  He staggered away with $20,000 from the same $300 max bet BJ table.  he was playing according to what he guessed the next cards would be.  i played by the book, and only made about $300.

So, sometimes the gambling gods are kind to drunks.  And he was REALLY drunk!

Up after playing BJ for that long is a win, even if it is only $300.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #446 on: July 03, 2025, 01:27:34 PM »
Up after playing BJ for that long is a win, even if it is only $300.

Yes, but if i'd been down the same amount, it would have been worth watching blind luck being in total control of someone's play.

There were people behind me actually yelling at him things like, "What?  Splitting 10s against an ace??!!"  I'd look back and say, "Just watch."  The split tens would make both hands, and the dealer would turn over a 3 and bust out.  Had he stayed on 20, the dealer would have had 21.  No matter what he did, it turned out to be the best decision, even though according to BJ theory it was the wrong play.

To add to the drama, he'd sit there for 10-20 seconds before finishing the hand telling the dealer, "You can't beat me."  Then he'd make his decision and prove he was right!

 :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #447 on: July 03, 2025, 03:34:36 PM »
Yes, but if i'd been down the same amount, it would have been worth watching blind luck being in total control of someone's play.

There were people behind me actually yelling at him things like, "What?  Splitting 10s against an ace??!!"  I'd look back and say, "Just watch."  The split tens would make both hands, and the dealer would turn over a 3 and bust out.  Had he stayed on 20, the dealer would have had 21.  No matter what he did, it turned out to be the best decision, even though according to BJ theory it was the wrong play.

To add to the drama, he'd sit there for 10-20 seconds before finishing the hand telling the dealer, "You can't beat me."  Then he'd make his decision and prove he was right!

 :thumbsup:

That sounds like a fun table to be at. I gave up playing BJ.  The last time was in 2019 or so at Circa.  $10 table and I lost like 7 hands in a row.  And all bad beats. I would have 20 and dealer would get a 5 card 21.  Stuff like that.  And I was alone on teh table, so I lost $100 in about a minute.

After that, I told myself that I give up on playing BJ since that is how my luck usually is for that game. Then add in I stress out over my small $10 bet to hit or stand cause no matter what I did, I would lose.  So book says to stand, but everytime I do, dealer wins.  Or if I hit, the dealer would get the 1 card he needs to beat me.  Compare this to having $66 on the craps table at any given time or $60 on the Utlimate TX Holdem.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #448 on: July 03, 2025, 07:34:54 PM »
That sounds like a fun table to be at. I gave up playing BJ.  The last time was in 2019 or so at Circa.  $10 table and I lost like 7 hands in a row.  And all bad beats. I would have 20 and dealer would get a 5 card 21.  Stuff like that.  And I was alone on teh table, so I lost $100 in about a minute.

After that, I told myself that I give up on playing BJ since that is how my luck usually is for that game. Then add in I stress out over my small $10 bet to hit or stand cause no matter what I did, I would lose.  So book says to stand, but everytime I do, dealer wins.  Or if I hit, the dealer would get the 1 card he needs to beat me.  Compare this to having $66 on the craps table at any given time or $60 on the Utlimate TX Holdem.
The thing that helped me win BJ wasn't exactly counting cards as much as tracking the flow of the hands.  If you can get the same flow in a double-deck game consistently, you can do well.  If the cards are flowing against you (you bust every hit, dealer doesn't bust with bust cards showing, etc.), leave the table or try playing multiple hands to change the flow in your favor.

i once sat down at a $25 table soon after arriving and checking into the hotel probably about 9pm.  I made $1800 in about 90 minutes playing $25-$50 hands.  The dealer busted about 75% of the time she was supposed to, and I probably won all but a couple of my splits and double-downs.  There was a young couple there before I sat in, and they were doing okay.  But adding a 3rd player seemed to be the thing that kept the cards cycling in our favor.  As soon as I lost 3 hands in a row, i went to bed feeling pretty good about how my trip had begun!

 :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #449 on: July 04, 2025, 12:25:44 PM »
Today for July 4th Danny the Medic went to the America restaurant in the NY NY casino.  He said to celebrate he is going to eat Apple Pie and Hot Dog since nothing is more American than those two foods.

Then the f*cker changes his mind and decides to only eat apple pie and ice cream.  He claims he ate 5 hot dogs at his apartment the other day so didn't want to eat a Hot Dog.

The America restaurant listed their foot long hot dog at $14 so I wanted to see what the deal was about this hot dog that made them charge 14 bucks for it.  But asshat Danny the Bullsh*t decides he won't eat the hot dog.

Then he goes home and eats a hot dog by heating it in his microwave, stating that some of his viewers are gonna comment and complain about why he didn't eat the hot dog like he said he would.  As if eating a fricken hot dog at home is gonna make up for it. :grrr:  What a dumb-ass.

Anyway I did comment saying I wanted a review on the America hot dog.  That was the intent of his video in the first place.

Sigh.  Vegas and some of it's Food Bloggers are not what they used to be..... ::)

 
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #450 on: July 04, 2025, 03:16:42 PM »
Today for July 4th Danny the Medic went to the America restaurant in the NY NY casino.  He said to celebrate he is going to eat Apple Pie and Hot Dog since nothing is more American than those two foods.

Then the f*cker changes his mind and decides to only eat apple pie and ice cream.  He claims he ate 5 hot dogs at his apartment the other day so didn't want to eat a Hot Dog.

The America restaurant listed their foot long hot dog at $14 so I wanted to see what the deal was about this hot dog that made them charge 14 bucks for it.  But asshat Danny the Bullsh*t decides he won't eat the hot dog.

Then he goes home and eats a hot dog by heating it in his microwave, stating that some of his viewers are gonna comment and complain about why he didn't eat the hot dog like he said he would.  As if eating a fricken hot dog at home is gonna make up for it. :grrr:  What a dumb-ass.

Anyway I did comment saying I wanted a review on the America hot dog.  That was the intent of his video in the first place.

Sigh.  Vegas and some of it's Food Bloggers are not what they used to be..... ::)

This is what happens when you live vicariously through other people on Social Media.

 :geekdanc: :wacko: :popcorn:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #452 on: July 06, 2025, 10:05:43 AM »

zippz

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #453 on: July 14, 2025, 12:00:37 PM »
Report on ARFCOM where security found a guests handgun in a Wynn suite.  Guest left their gun on the nightstand, went to dinner, then security confronted him and put the gun and ammo in their armory.  Suspected the maid saw it when preparing the suite for the night, or it was detected at the entrance weapons detectors, or both.

No issues except having to retrieve it from the armory and being escorted out at the end of his stay.

changemyoil66

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #454 on: July 14, 2025, 12:11:12 PM »
Report on ARFCOM where security found a guests handgun in a Wynn suite.  Guest left their gun on the nightstand, went to dinner, then security confronted him and put the gun and ammo in their armory.  Suspected the maid saw it when preparing the suite for the night, or it was detected at the entrance weapons detectors, or both.

No issues except having to retrieve it from the armory and being escorted out at the end of his stay.

Wynn has no weapons detectors at their entrances. No hotel does, on or off strip. Some do xray your luggage if left with the bell hop.

They also don't use facial recognition software for people about this, nor do they mark your reservation with the hotel.  Or mark your RSVP for all future hotel stays.

I've had to check my firearm at various armories in Vegas hotels and they're really cool about it as it's no biggie.  Each hotel also has their own SOP.

Venetian/Palazzo will escort you off property once you claim your gun from their armory.  I was waiting for my ride to show up in the front of the lobby and the 2 guards were just hanging out with me.  They didn't rush me to leave.  They also weren't standing next to me, but like 10 feet behind me.  I've stayed multiple times since and was never asked if I have a firearm when checking in, was never asked when giving my players card, or stopped.  I even ran into the same security guard who escorted me off property 2 days prior and he never stopped to ask me about my firearm. 

Planet Hollywood, I had to check my gun and remove the mag and clear the chamber.  When I claimed it back, the manager there said I'm able to load and holster (IWB).  Just do so pointing the firearm in a safe direction when loading and making ready.  They didn't escort me out.  I walked from the armory to the strip exit myself.

changemyoil66

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #455 on: July 18, 2025, 08:53:25 AM »
There's more and more vids of how vegas is greedy and pushing people out.  Now with the BBB passing, the new thing is that 90% of losses can be deducted compared to 100%.  The common example being used are for pro poker players.  I look at it this way, if you're a "pro" and breaking even, then how do you pay your bills as not all pro's have sponsors.  So this would be a very small demographic it would affect.

First they were blaming the tariffs on Canada that will continue to lose Canadian visitors.  Now the 90% loss deduction.  Of course blaming the rising cost in general and fees was blamed as well, but not to the extent of these 2 via social media sources.

And soon, handpays will increase from $1200 to $2K.

I didn't read this portion of the bill in full, just cliffnotes for the above.  But I do think people are overreacting about the 90% thing as I'm sure most people lose way more than breaking even.  Vegas wasn't built on people breaking even or winning. So it should have minimal effect, it seems like people just wanna be mad at Trump and the GOP.

So with that being said, Vegas losing visitors is their own doing.  Like mentioned in this post, too many fees and higher cost of general things.  Like the $0.99 shrimp cocktail is gone, $9.99 strip buffets, $4.99 steak and eggs, etc...What I have noticed is the cost of higher end things haven't gone up as much as these. 

Example: The $9.99 buffet is now $35.99.  A steak at a nice steakhouse was $60 and is now $70.  So it didnt' increase 3 fold like the buffet.  Which circles back to my thing about the middle income and lower being pushed out.  Everyone above middle income is fine.  Then add in the $5 tables are gone.  Resort fees have been around for years now, so the days of $15/night Circus Circus have been gone. Now it's $15/night plus $40 daily resort fee. So this had minimal impact on the lower income tourist.

1 could say parking fee's are also impacting as that only came about post covid.

astroboy

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #456 on: July 18, 2025, 10:24:06 AM »
+1 more on missing the $5 tables. Vegas used to be a fun place with experienced people
tending to customers who appreciated good and friendly service. These satisfied people
would often leave good tips.

Check out the youtuber in Vegas. There are important lessons for the Aloha state.

QUIETShooter

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #457 on: July 18, 2025, 11:38:26 AM »


The alarms are out but it was noted above that the people who ARE going to Vegas are spending more.  Duh.....do they have a choice? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

We're thinking of changing the way we do Vegas.  Instead of running here and there and visiting different casino properties we're looking at staying at just one property that has more or less everything we like to do in Vegas.

The nicer local properties off-strip (like Red Rock and Green Valley) has everything as far as dining, entertainment, gambling and even shopping.

I still like staying at the Cal Downtown but if the gambling minimums are rivaling the nicer properties I might as well stay at those places instead.  I do really like Circa, though.  Maybe I'll stay there.
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Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #458 on: July 18, 2025, 02:02:17 PM »
[snipped]
1 could say parking fee's are also impacting as that only came about post covid.
The parking fees are a double-edged sword.  If the casinos want to shear the sheep more by charging for parking, the amount charged needs to be very small.  otherwise, people will just take a cab or Uber.  Given the cost of rental cars, drunks on the road, chances of getting a DUI yourself, and just the frustration of Vegas traffic at times, parking fees may be the last straw in convincing visitors that passing on the rental car and taking a shuttle/cab/Uber everywhere is a better option.

Fewer drivers means less parking revenue, and that might force them to stop charging for parking again.  Free parking used to be a bonus when deciding which casino to play at.  The big "secret" in Vegas used to be valet parking.  Most casinos never charged for valet, but they did charge for self-parking though some allowed up to 2 hours free parking with validation.  Tipping the valet was less than most paid parking, and you had the convenience of someone bringing your car to you. Once everyone started doing valet, though, it became a hassle having to stand in a long line waiting your turn.

Too bad they didn't build a subway between all the properties.  Although, i have heard their public bus system is super cheap and convenient, but it's mostly locals using it.  Visitors want VIP treatment.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: What happened to the Vegas I used to know.....smh
« Reply #459 on: July 18, 2025, 02:28:15 PM »


The alarms are out but it was noted above that the people who ARE going to Vegas are spending more.  Duh.....do they have a choice? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

We're thinking of changing the way we do Vegas.  Instead of running here and there and visiting different casino properties we're looking at staying at just one property that has more or less everything we like to do in Vegas.

The nicer local properties off-strip (like Red Rock and Green Valley) has everything as far as dining, entertainment, gambling and even shopping.

I still like staying at the Cal Downtown but if the gambling minimums are rivaling the nicer properties I might as well stay at those places instead.  I do really like Circa, though.  Maybe I'll stay there.

Most of downtown is $15. But they do have $5 tables sometimes, it's a luck of the draw.  And even if there is a $5 table, it might be too packed to join in.  So knowing the mins are $15 now most of the time, you're better staying at GVR or RR.  Plus the clientel has more class.  The downside would be that DT does have more eating places and you can just walk across the street if 1 casino's tables are cold. Both GVR and RR have free parking.  Circa charges.  Fremont is still free valet. IDK about the other casinos.


Our host casino for years is Palazzo/Venetian. Ive never made tier 2 status and we haven't had to pay for a room or resort fees in many years. Last year was the 1st time I made tier 2 status, which is only 3,000 points. So now we get free parking. So they're genrous on room comps. They have $15 tables in teh day, which is shocking for a higher end place.  Very good on property food from cheap to expensive. Plus they're on teh strip, so you can walk elsewhere to eat or play.

1 downside is their let it ride game isn't always open. the table is there, but it's not open often.This past Memorial Day weekend, i never saw it open at all. But the Thanksgiving in 2024 it was.