Is bear spray legal to own and use for self defense or for defense of others or for protection of property?  I do not see any restrictions in R.O.H Section 41-37.3.

Thoughts?

Of course I am not planning on buying any.

Does the can have the words "its a against federal law to use for other than its intended purpose"?

Why bear spray? Whats wrong with pepper spray?

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Does the can have the words "its a against federal law to use for other than its intended purpose"?

Why bear spray? Whats wrong with pepper spray?

... bear spray is a type of pepper spray, with an active ingredient — capsaicin —
that’s derived from chile peppers. When sprayed into the face of a person or bear,
capsaicin inflames the mucous membranes of the eyes, nose and lungs, causing
temporary loss of sight, nasal congestion, and, in some, difficulty breathing, Rizzo
says.

That said, bear deterrent and self-defense pepper sprays have some important differences:
Most bear sprays boast a capsaicin content of 2 percent, compared with 1.2 to 1.4
percent in most self-defense products, according to the nonprofit BearWise. The strength
of peppers is measured in Scoville heat units, or SHUs, which is the number of cups of sugar
water it would take to fully neutralize the spice. A habanero pepper, among the hottest out
there, has roughly 200,000 SHUs. Standard pepper sprays have around 1 million SHUs,
while bear sprays pack 3 million SHUs, so it’s about three times as potent as the self-
defense products.

It’s also dispensed more widely and forcefully, the experts agreed. Bear deterrents dispense
in a fog pattern — vs. the stream output of many pepper sprays — making it more likely that
the capsaicin will get into an aggressive animal’s eyes, nose and throat. Bear sprays are also
pressurized to travel farther — 30 to 35 feet — than the smaller self-defense products.

Bear spray costs $30 to $50 for an eight- to 10-ounce can.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/bear-spray-pepper-riot-dangerous/2021/03/19/053c3870-87fb-11eb-bfdf-4d36dab83a6d_story.html

From everything I can find about relevant laws, bear spray is treated as pepper spray.  If it's legal to have the latter, it's legal to have the former.

This issue I believe would be how it's used.  Just like pepper spray, if you use it to attack someone as the aggressor, or if you rob people using it, that's different.  For self-defense, I think it's legal.

I might not have read the correct HI statute that covers chemical weapons like this, so don't take that as the "final answer."

Use pepper spray.

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Use pepper spray.

Why not bear spray?  Longer reach, more potent, and creates a fog versus having to get a direct hit on the attacker.

Why not bear spray?  Longer reach, more potent, and creates a fog versus having to get a direct hit on the attacker.

Exactly !!  Mahalo FJ!  "Regular" pepper engages close to the distance the bad guy is able to stab you multiple tines.

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Why not bear spray?  Longer reach, more potent, and creates a fog versus having to get a direct hit on the attacker.

A stream is typically preferred to limit exposure to yourself and others.

A fog can come back at you in the wind or in confined spaces.  If your opponent is resistant to pepper spray and you're not, you may be screwed.  You also have a higher chance of spraying bystanders with the higher volume of fog the bear spray puts out.  People with respiratory illness or heart problems can have adverse reactions to it.

If you are alone or in a sparsely populated area, then it may not be a big problem.

Why not bear spray?  Longer reach, more potent, and creates a fog versus having to get a direct hit on the attacker.

Lawsuit reason.

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Before pepper spray was legal, I had cans of wasp spray at my disposal. Cheap and stream can reach 20 ft.

Before pepper spray was legal, I had cans of wasp spray at my disposal. Cheap and stream can reach 20 ft.

Wasp spray is not a very effective self defense choice as it only causes minor eye irritation and works more on the nervous system and would require a heavier dose than for wasp's but the toxic side effects with wasp spray requires the attacker to go to the hospital for an antidote.
What this may mean for you is legal difficulties since using wasp spray on humans is illegal.
This could result in a lawsuit between you and your attacker even though you were defending yourself.

I can i read doesnt have the federal warning, unlike shit sprays do.

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Lawsuit reason.

Elaborate.

in a self defense scenario, chances are the attacker isn't going to sue and show up in court admitting they attacked you.

what if the perp identified as a bear?

what if the perp identified as a bear?

Some of them look and smell like them.  Might as well identify as them.  Avoids confusion.

Elaborate.

in a self defense scenario, chances are the attacker isn't going to sue and show up in court admitting they attacked you.

People sue for all kinds of dumb reasons. To use something intentinal for self defense thats not designed for humans, esp since HI has no bears, opens one up.

Shit happens and it might not be the badguy suing, but their family if hes seriously injured as a result to being incopacitated by bear spray.

Up to OP though.

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People sue for all kinds of dumb reasons. To use something intentinal for self defense thats not designed for humans, esp since HI has no bears, opens one up.

Shit happens and it might not be the badguy suing, but their family if hes seriously injured as a result to being incopacitated by bear spray.

Up to OP though.

If you're going to make all your decisions based on what someone MIGHT sue you for, then I pity you.

"People sue for all kinds of dumb reasons."

I say, people are afraid of being sued for all kinds of dumb reasons.  That's no way to live your life.

People sue for all kinds of dumb reasons. To use something intentinal for self defense thats not designed for humans, esp since HI has no bears, opens one up.

Shit happens and it might not be the badguy suing, but their family if hes seriously injured as a result to being incopacitated by bear spray.

Up to OP though.

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Got it.  Better off using lethal force to stop the threat since that is what 125 grain 357 hollow points are made for.  Too bad that I don't have any . . .

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Can't bring it on an aircraft, and as an aerosol most places won't ship here. Kinda like ammunition.

If you're going to make all your decisions based on what someone MIGHT sue you for, then I pity you.

"People sue for all kinds of dumb reasons."

I say, people are afraid of being sued for all kinds of dumb reasons.  That's no way to live your life.

Not all, but some.risk vs. reward.

In this situation, pepper spray is available to use. So why open one up to an unecessary risk.

U do u.

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Can't bring it on an aircraft, and as an aerosol most places won't ship here. Kinda like ammunition.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/305169426274?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=tUps_3RhT4K&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=1wsSqQuYRga&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

i often find eBay sellers are less restrictive with their shipping options.

From my reading, Bear Spray is okay to ship to all 50 states via ground carrier.

The listing I posted above shows free ground shipping to Hawaii, $8.50 to upgrade to USPS Priority Mail.