Just want to verify this is the correct website for the Hawaiian "Original Hunters Education card ".

https://www.hunter-ed.com/hawaii/

I would rather not give $26 to the state authorized monopoly infringing on my 2nd Amendment rights, but I want to remain a 'law abiding citizen' and don't have money for a lawyer.

Looks good

Just want to verify this is the correct website for the Hawaiian "Original Hunters Education card ".

https://www.hunter-ed.com/hawaii/

I would rather not give $26 to the state authorized monopoly infringing on my 2nd Amendment rights, but I want to remain a 'law abiding citizen' and don't have money for a lawyer.

note- hunter's ed no longer valid for handguns
only long guns

note- hunter's ed no longer valid for handguns
only long guns

Thank you, after a couple years of not wanting to deal with all the laws I decided just to deal with it and research.  Then found it easier to get a Barretta M82 than it is to get a .22 pistol. So I decided to start with a simple AR build.  Going to be looking for a class for my permit to purchase pistols soon I hope.

Rocky on the forum has a really good class.

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I went in last week to renew my long gun permit to acquire and was told that my Hawaii hunter's ed cert from 2007 is no longer valid for new permit to acquire. They told me to do the online version and bring in proof of completion to continue application process. I thought I overheard the guys in the back saying that any state's hunter ed program was acceptable. Does anyone know if the NRA's free hunter ed program would work? According to their website, it's the official online hunter ed program for multiple states:

https://nra.yourlearningportal.com/Course/HuntersEdActivityInfoPage

I went in last week to renew my long gun permit to acquire and was told that my Hawaii hunter's ed cert from 2007 is no longer valid for new permit to acquire. They told me to do the online version and bring in proof of completion to continue application process. I thought I overheard the guys in the back saying that any state's hunter ed program was acceptable. Does anyone know if the NRA's free hunter ed program would work? According to their website, it's the official online hunter ed program for multiple states:

https://nra.yourlearningportal.com/Course/HuntersEdActivityInfoPage

The link you provided said HI is not avialable.

So I'm going to say no, the NRA one doesn't work for HI to buy a rifle/shotty.

No person shall be issued a permit under this section for the acquisition of a firearm unless the person, within the four years before the issuance of the permit, has completed:

     (1)  An approved hunter education course as authorized under section 183D-28, unless the applicant seeks to acquire a pistol or revolver, in which case the applicant shall complete a training satisfying the requirements of paragraph (2), (3), or (4);

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0002.htm

§183D-28  Hunter education program.  (a)  The department shall establish a hunter education program to provide instruction in hunter safety, principles of conservation, and sportsmanship.  Upon successful completion of the program, the department shall issue to the graduate a hunter education certificate which shall be valid for the life of the person.  This certification shall be rescinded by judicial action upon the conviction of a wildlife and/or firearms violation.  No person shall be eligible for a hunting license unless the person possesses a valid hunter education certificate or meets the requirements for exemption provided in subsection (b)(2), and is either:

     (1)  Born after December 31, 1971; or

     (2)  Born before January 1, 1972, and has never been issued a hunting license in the State.

     (b)  A person who meets the minimum age requirements adopted pursuant to subsection (c) shall be exempt from the requirements of subsection (a) if the person:

     (1)  Was born before January 1, 1972, and at one time possessed a hunting license issued by the State; provided that the person shows satisfactory proof to the department that the person had possessed the hunting license;

     (2)  Has successfully completed a course or program of hunter education and safety that is approved by the International Hunter Education Association and meets the requirements of Chapter 12 of the United States Fish and Wildlife Service Federal Aid Manual, as revised; provided that the person shows satisfactory proof in the form of a certificate, wallet card, or other document issued by a state, province, or country evidencing successful completion of the course or program; or

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0183D/HRS_0183D-0028.htm


Based on what's currently posted as the law, if you have a certificate from another state that satisfies the statute's criteria (approved by the International Hunter Education Association and meets the requirements of Chapter 12 of the United States Fish and Wildlife Service Federal Aid Manual, as revised), then it should be good for a long gun permit.

Since section HRS 134-2 references section 183D-28, that's the criteria that needs to be met to get a long gun permit.

Or you can take the handgun training and be qualified to apply for a PTA for handguns and/or long guns.

Thanks Flapp_Jackson for the well-researched response! I'm going to give it a shot and see if this works. If not, I'll pay the $26 for the Hawaii-approved commercial version, or just take the handgun safety training option... which I should do anyway given the way things are headed with Honolulu's wonderful legislative idiosyncrasies.

I'll post a follow up in a couple weeks on whether I'm successful in using the NRA hunter ed training to get my long gun PTA.

Thanks Flapp_Jackson for the well-researched response! I'm going to give it a shot and see if this works. If not, I'll pay the $26 for the Hawaii-approved commercial version, or just take the handgun safety training option... which I should do anyway given the way things are headed with Honolulu's wonderful legislative idiosyncrasies.

I'll post a follow up in a couple weeks on whether I'm successful in using the NRA hunter ed training to get my long gun PTA.

I think if (when?) you encounter resistance, it'll probably be because HPD wants you to take classes that teach Hawaii gun laws. 

But, they haven't changed the law in that regards.  They still allow hunters to come from other states, register their weapons, obtain hunting permits, and carry firearms -- all without taking any classes that involve Hawaii gun laws.

Our gun laws are a mess of ambiguities, contradictions and failed intentions.  Even taking the classes just raises more questions.

They want to force all gun owners to take HI-certified gun safety classes, yet the hunter's ed issue offers an exception.  It is a perfect example of a law that muddies the water more than it helps us understand the law.  it's intended to accommodate hunters from other states, yet it also causes confusion and misinterpretations among HI residents and HPD.

hunter's ed no longer counts for carry permits...

I think if (when?) you encounter resistance, it'll probably be because HPD wants you to take classes that teach Hawaii gun laws. 

But, they haven't changed the law in that regards.  They still allow hunters to come from other states, register their weapons, obtain hunting permits, and carry firearms -- all without taking any classes that involve Hawaii gun laws.

Our gun laws are a mess of ambiguities, contradictions and failed intentions.  Even taking the classes just raises more questions.

They want to force all gun owners to take HI-certified gun safety classes, yet the hunter's ed issue offers an exception.  It is a perfect example of a law that muddies the water more than it helps us understand the law.  it's intended to accommodate hunters from other states, yet it also causes confusion and misinterpretations among HI residents and HPD.

hunter's ed no longer counts for carry permits...

Never did

hunter's ed no longer counts for carry permits...

Did I say concealed carry?

Don't hunters carry their long guns when hunting, ... or do they hire caddies?

according to kit it did...

Never did

according to kit it did...

I think you might have probably possibly misunderstood what he was trying to say.

which guy was kit?

I think you might have probably possibly misunderstood what he was trying to say.

which guy was kit?

Who's on first ....

Who's on first ....

Mac is on second

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Maybe a little off-topic, but still a question on current status of an older Hawaii Hunters Ed. card.

I have an old card. I am not planning to purchase "anything" new, long gun or hand gun, currently, or in the future.

Question, as far as these new laws, as a gun owner, no need to take any new so-called courses as a previous registered gun owner?

Lmk, aloha!