Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill (Read 10123 times)

Westside_Redneck

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2024, 01:24:08 PM »
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You don't need mobs and death threats if you can ruin someone's career for having the wrong opinions. That's the way it used to work

Ruin how? Do the Dems contract the local papers around here to write smear articles about them? What are the methods they use to ruin careers? If we can have an idea of the dirty methods these 'means justify the ends' folk use maybe we can figure out how to counter their efforts so the 'means justify their demise' instead.

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Be a libby and do both  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm being serious here, they are going to send mail in ballots whether we want them or not! So what would be the appropriate response if you are even the least bit suspicious of mail in voting?

Also care to elaborate how one can WRITE IN a candidate you want to vote for in this state?

Westside_Redneck

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2024, 01:28:04 PM »


What we really need are ballot harvesting campaigns. Dems made it legal, so by not using it we are forfeiting the election.

Yes lets do it! They're not gonna play fair, we won't either!

QUIETShooter

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2024, 01:29:21 PM »
If Trump is left off the general election ballot I predict civil unrest in the nation.

Rightfully so.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2024, 01:53:49 PM »
Yes lets do it! They're not gonna play fair, we won't either!

According to this website we don't have any ballot harvesting laws, but I have no idea about the credibility and am not a lawyer.

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_(ballot_collection)_laws_by_state

But if it turns out if is legal then I'd say you are on a good location on the West Side where Trump actually did very well in the past few elections. Just gotta find the folks who are too lazy to fill 'em or no kea.

A fraudulent system can only handle so much fraud. If you overwhelm it there's no way to hide what's going on.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2024, 02:00:00 PM »
Ruin how? Do the Dems contract the local papers around here to write smear articles about them? What are the methods they use to ruin careers? If we can have an idea of the dirty methods these 'means justify the ends' folk use maybe we can figure out how to counter their efforts so the 'means justify their demise' instead.
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One example from one major US industry:
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“I feel absolutely it has harmed me professionally,” said Andrew Klavan, the L.A.-
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Klavan said that producers have “called my agent asking, ‘Why would you represent
this guy?’ Anything that lowers your odds is going to hurt.”
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2024, 02:11:59 PM »
Yes lets do it! They're not gonna play fair, we won't either!

There's a big difference between 'fair' and what's legal.

Mud slinging, starting rumors and using SuperPACs to skirt campaign spending laws are just a few unfair, but legal, tactics both sides engage in.

Hawaii is one of few states which began statewide mail-in and early voting well before 2020.  Both schemes are inherently fraught with vulnerabilities that can enable fraud and cheating.  Whether or not that cheating is specifically recognized by the courts as illegal is a huge question.

Can someone offer to take 100 of their closest neighbors' ballots to a drop box to make sure the ballots are cast?  How about if they collect the ballots with none of the bubbles darkened, the envelopes unsealed, and the signature line signed by the voter?

Without direct witness or video evidence, you can't tell if the registered voter executed the ballot, or if the harvester did. 

Then there's the reported problems with registration drives and ballot drop-off.  Someone collecting registration forms or ballots from a person or area that probably votes for "the other side" might find their forms getting lost or shredded. 

So many things are not illegal in the broader sense, but they become illegal when you look at what they are doing after they collect the forms/ballots.  Of course, in their minds, everything is fair in love and war -- and politics today is nothing short of warfare.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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ren

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2024, 02:17:20 PM »
In Hawaii quite a few legislators are appointed. i.e. in Mililani Trish Lachica has tried several times to get a position at the City and State levels. Voters did not want her and neither did the MTA. She finally got appointed by Green #immadoctor to State Rep.
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hvybarrels

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2024, 02:49:26 PM »
In Hawaii quite a few legislators are appointed. i.e. in Mililani Trish Lachica has tried several times to get a position at the City and State levels. Voters did not want her and neither did the MTA. She finally got appointed by Green #immadoctor to State Rep.

On the other hand they must be terrified, because Rhoads would not have felt it necessary to make this dangerous and politically risky maneuver if he had100% confidence in their voter fraud scheme
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QUIETShooter

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2024, 02:51:57 PM »
In Hawaii quite a few legislators are appointed. i.e. in Mililani Trish Lachica has tried several times to get a position at the City and State levels. Voters did not want her and neither did the MTA. She finally got appointed by Green #immadoctor to State Rep.

Gosh with all of these appointments we really are a banana republik.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2024, 03:32:39 PM »
Gosh with all of these appointments we really are a banana republik.

We're definitely in a transition phase, and unfortunately the opposition in this state is really disorganized. The Hawaii GOP is silent on every issue that actually matters. it's like they are scared of their own shadow. Or trying to leave the door open in case they want to rejoin the Democrats some day.
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oldfart

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2024, 06:51:22 PM »
Just an observation here.
I am approaching 70 yrs old.
I've been voting all my life.

I've never heard of anyone being blocked from an election ballot.

Just like I never heard of "chief's rules" until a couple of months ago.

Don't be surprised if we see more weird legal maneuvering in the next few months.
What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2024, 08:29:46 PM »
Sometimes I wonder who the demorats are really afraid of.

Is it Trump or the will of the people?  Obviously there is enough citizens out there that want him back in power.  The will of the people is being presented.  Donald Trump is their choice.

The demorats are afraid.  These communist f*cks are trying to upheave the very foundation of our nation, and that is the will of the people.

Our forefathers must be turning in their graves, knowing the leaders of this country are a bunch of f*ckn traitors.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

rpoL98

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2024, 02:23:09 PM »
goal is to suppress the will of the people.

we see this even when there's testimony on gun bills.  the will of the people is ignored.  the process is a charade, all for show.  DEM puppet lawmakers do as directed by what their puppet masters dictate.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2024, 02:44:47 PM by rpoL98 »

Stack_Xchange

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2024, 03:43:43 PM »
This sets a terrible precedent and quite literally threatens all future elections.

To even have (basically) a two party election system a terrible for a democratic country. If I want to pencil in "Mits Funai" as my POTUS choice, that should be my prerogative.

If I had it my way, I would require that every person pencil in their vote manually, by name. That way, at least people could only cast votes for people they have actually heard of, and not vote based solely on (D) or (R).

changemyoil66

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2024, 03:49:02 PM »
Go read comrade Karl's X page.  Lots of TDS stuff on there.

Cain57

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2024, 06:42:44 PM »
What these dems are forgetting is that insurrection is a crime. And until an individual is convicted of a crime they are presumed innocent of the charges.

It’s pretty embarrassing that they would try to stoop to this level knowing Hawaii is a blue state.

changemyoil66

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2024, 06:50:35 PM »
What these dems are forgetting is that insurrection is a crime. And until an individual is convicted of a crime they are presumed innocent of the charges.

It’s pretty embarrassing that they would try to stoop to this level knowing Hawaii is a blue state.
Dnc dont care about convictions. Look at the red flag law they passed.

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hvybarrels

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2024, 07:08:32 PM »
What these dems are forgetting is that insurrection is a crime. And until an individual is convicted of a crime they are presumed innocent of the charges.

It’s pretty embarrassing that they would try to stoop to this level knowing Hawaii is a blue state.

The window of opportunity to transform us into their corporate communist utopia is rapidly closing. More people are waking up to the shenanigans and forming a resistance. It's panic time, so they are throwing everything they have at it.

The corruption is so bad results are so horrific that public forgiveness is no longer an option, so this really is an existential crisis for them.

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4C5S

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2024, 06:39:27 AM »
I believe SCOTUS will give an opinion on this issue next week Thursday; so all this conjecture will be put to rest or Trump will be put out to pasture.

oldfart

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2024, 07:03:59 AM »
You guys should see the emails I get from DSCC, Biden, and other democrat candidates.
It is hilarious, desperate and frantic.
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