please show me where i said i wouldn't call the police...

I didn't know bots could open carry

I didn't know bots could open carry

I'm baffled as to how a hurricane equates to "not being a time of peace."

Did the hurricane decide to attack?  Are we planning a counter offensive?

I must have missed something in my meteorology class....

I must have missed it.

Where in the US Constitution does anyone have a "right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"?

The Declaration of Independence carries no weight -- legally speaking -- on individual rights.

I must have missed it.

Where in the US Constitution does anyone have a "right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"?

The Declaration of Independence carries no weight -- legally speaking -- on individual rights.

SCOTUS authority has been severely undermined this past week. While the Texas border constitutional criss thing is already out of their hands, this case would present them with an opportunity to reassert themselves should they decide to take it.

It's been undermined since Bruen was decided. CA, NY, NJ, HI, MA all said F-U and made more gun laws.

That's not how rights work.  In fact, that's the reason we have rights in the first place.  To protect things that other people object to.  Just because someone doesn't like it, that's on them, not on you.

Whoa, stirred the hornets nets apparently. Too much to quote, so I'll just respond in general.

How do rights work?

Your rights are ALWAYS balanced with the rights of another. The Constitution itself does not comprise every law applicable law. The very same right to Free Speech protects the KKK the same way it protects the Black Panthers and everything in between. However, freedom of speech is not unlimited, and neither should any other right. I know some (most?) people here believe that 2A should be an unlimited right. I disagree. That's just a difference of opinions.

Do I own guns? What do I believe?

I believe, that when in the confines of ones own home, and based on the "Place to Keep" requirements, a person should be allowed to own ANY GUN they want. Full-auto SBR with "exploding bullets"? Go right ahead. However, when it comes to carrying in public, a person should be certified so that there is a general understanding of 'who they are' (not a felon, suspected violent crime offender, escapee from a mental ward, etc.) and the peace of mind the person is somewhat capable of deploying that firearm without a significant detriment to others. I don't believe in any law obviously designed to hinder a persons right to bear arms. Private property banned by default? That's pretty "obvious". For example, the "Sensitive Place" laws are clearly a tertiary effort to stifle gun-carrying when other options have failed, even though a person has already met the rigorous requirements to get a CCW in the state of Hawaii. If you pass your CCW in its current form? You should be able to carry any pistol, regardless of whether you tested with it or not, nearly any place by default.

I do own guns. I can't say anything other than that.

Hurricanes and Karens

When a hurricane hits, there could be severe damage to infrastructure. At that point, I don't care if there are caravans of unidentified people driving around with rifles, because we are all just trying to "survive". I would absolutely call the police if I saw a known felon carrying a rifle, even if they are own their own property and that doesn't make me a "Karen". Calling the cops on someone just because they are carrying a gun on private property, that's totally different, and is uncalled for. I don't agree with the "printing rule" because it can happen even with the most responsible carrying. At the same time, I don't believe open carrying during a time of peace really inspires civility, not in a place like Hawaii where the general stance towards guns is negative. I would support Open Carry if the public generally supported it, but I don't think pushing for Open Carry is the way to go about generating public support.

§134-7.2  Prohibition against seizure of firearms or ammunition during emergency or disaster;
suspension of permit or license.  (a)  Notwithstanding any provision of chapter 127A or any
other law to the contrary, no person or government entity shall seize or confiscate, under any
emergency or disaster relief powers or functions conferred, or during any emergency period,
as defined in section 127A-2, or during any time of national emergency or crisis, as defined
in section 134-34, any firearm or ammunition from any individual who is lawfully permitted to
carry or possess the firearm or ammunition under part I of this chapter and who carries,
possesses, or uses the firearm or ammunition in a lawful manner and in accordance with
the criminal laws of this State.

     (b)  Notwithstanding any provision of chapter 127A or any other law to the contrary, no
person or government entity shall suspend, revoke, or limit, under any emergency or disaster
relief powers or functions conferred, any lawfully acquired and maintained permit or license
obtained under and in accordance with part I of this chapter.

     (c)  For purposes of this section, "government entity" means any unit of government in
this State, including the State and any county or combination of counties, department, agency,
institution, board, commission, district, council, bureau, office, governing authority, or other
instrumentality of state or county government, or corporation or other establishment owned,
operated, or managed by or on behalf of this State or any county. [L 2010, c 96, §1; am
L 2014, c 111, §7]

Whoa, stirred the hornets nets apparently. Too much to quote, so I'll just respond in general.

How do rights work?

Your rights are ALWAYS balanced with the rights of another. The Constitution itself does not comprise every law applicable law. The very same right to Free Speech protects the KKK the same way it protects the Black Panthers and everything in between. However, freedom of speech is not unlimited, and neither should any other right. I know some (most?) people here believe that 2A should be an unlimited right. I disagree. That's just a difference of opinions.

Do I own guns? What do I believe?

I believe, that when in the confines of ones own home, and based on the "Place to Keep" requirements, a person should be allowed to own ANY GUN they want. Full-auto SBR with "exploding bullets"? Go right ahead. However, when it comes to carrying in public, a person should be certified so that there is a general understanding of 'who they are' (not a felon, suspected violent crime offender, escapee from a mental ward, etc.) and the peace of mind the person is somewhat capable of deploying that firearm without a significant detriment to others. I don't believe in any law obviously designed to hinder a persons right to bear arms. Private property banned by default? That's pretty "obvious". For example, the "Sensitive Place" laws are clearly a tertiary effort to stifle gun-carrying when other options have failed, even though a person has already met the rigorous requirements to get a CCW in the state of Hawaii. If you pass your CCW in its current form? You should be able to carry any pistol, regardless of whether you tested with it or not, nearly any place by default.

I do own guns. I can't say anything other than that.

Hurricanes and Karens

When a hurricane hits, there could be severe damage to infrastructure. At that point, I don't care if there are caravans of unidentified people driving around with rifles, because we are all just trying to "survive". I would absolutely call the police if I saw a known felon carrying a rifle, even if they are own their own property and that doesn't make me a "Karen". Calling the cops on someone just because they are carrying a gun on private property, that's totally different, and is uncalled for. I don't agree with the "printing rule" because it can happen even with the most responsible carrying. At the same time, I don't believe open carrying during a time of peace really inspires civility, not in a place like Hawaii where the general stance towards guns is negative. I would support Open Carry if the public generally supported it, but I don't think pushing for Open Carry is the way to go about generating public support.

I often wonder why, if all of us can understand this, that the ones in power and the ones in the judicial system cannot.

Are they getting paid under the table or something?

Madafackahs.

Whoa, stirred the hornets nets apparently. Too much to quote, so I'll just respond in general.

How do rights work?

Your rights are ALWAYS balanced with the rights of another. The Constitution itself does not comprise every law applicable law. The very same right to Free Speech protects the KKK the same way it protects the Black Panthers and everything in between. However, freedom of speech is not unlimited, and neither should any other right. I know some (most?) people here believe that 2A should be an unlimited right. I disagree. That's just a difference of opinions.

Do I own guns? What do I believe?

I believe, that when in the confines of ones own home, and based on the "Place to Keep" requirements, a person should be allowed to own ANY GUN they want. Full-auto SBR with "exploding bullets"? Go right ahead. However, when it comes to carrying in public, a person should be certified so that there is a general understanding of 'who they are' (not a felon, suspected violent crime offender, escapee from a mental ward, etc.) and the peace of mind the person is somewhat capable of deploying that firearm without a significant detriment to others. I don't believe in any law obviously designed to hinder a persons right to bear arms. Private property banned by default? That's pretty "obvious". For example, the "Sensitive Place" laws are clearly a tertiary effort to stifle gun-carrying when other options have failed, even though a person has already met the rigorous requirements to get a CCW in the state of Hawaii. If you pass your CCW in its current form? You should be able to carry any pistol, regardless of whether you tested with it or not, nearly any place by default.

I do own guns. I can't say anything other than that.

Hurricanes and Karens

When a hurricane hits, there could be severe damage to infrastructure. At that point, I don't care if there are caravans of unidentified people driving around with rifles, because we are all just trying to "survive". I would absolutely call the police if I saw a known felon carrying a rifle, even if they are own their own property and that doesn't make me a "Karen". Calling the cops on someone just because they are carrying a gun on private property, that's totally different, and is uncalled for. I don't agree with the "printing rule" because it can happen even with the most responsible carrying. At the same time, I don't believe open carrying during a time of peace really inspires civility, not in a place like Hawaii where the general stance towards guns is negative. I would support Open Carry if the public generally supported it, but I don't think pushing for Open Carry is the way to go about generating public support.

I would support Open Carry if the public generally supported it, but I don't think pushing for Open Carry is the way to go about generating public support.

Whoa, stirred the hornets nets apparently. Too much to quote, so I'll just respond in general.

How do rights work?

Your rights are ALWAYS balanced with the rights of another. The Constitution itself does not comprise every law applicable law. The very same right to Free Speech protects the KKK the same way it protects the Black Panthers and everything in between. However, freedom of speech is not unlimited, and neither should any other right. I know some (most?) people here believe that 2A should be an unlimited right. I disagree. That's just a difference of opinions.

.  You have no right to "feel" safe from what someone "might" do.  If you believe that, then that's Far Left, Progressive Liberal thinking, pure and simple.  You might want to seek professional help if that's how you live your life.