FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM (Read 26211 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #100 on: February 16, 2024, 06:16:34 AM »
With friends like this, who needs enemies.



Has Amy figured out how the government plans to convince criminals that assault type weapons are dangerous and that Amy and her friends are living in fear for themselves and their children?
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #101 on: February 16, 2024, 07:36:56 AM »
Believing that the cops will take care of you no matter what is the ultimate in White Privilege
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

ren

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #102 on: February 16, 2024, 08:20:35 AM »
need someone to testify on behalf of the most powerful union....Politicians center of gravity is their donors. They have a fake persona that is presented in election years but their real face is towards their donor list. Get on their list or influence it.
Deeds Not Words

stangzilla

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #103 on: February 16, 2024, 08:52:50 AM »
Can someone give a link to the hearing video?
Sorry. I no focus.
Thank you in advance  :shaka:

zippz

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #104 on: February 16, 2024, 09:35:31 AM »
Can someone give a link to the hearing video?
Sorry. I no focus.
Thank you in advance  :shaka:

If you pull up the bill status page on the capitol website, the YouTube link is in the lower right corner of the page.

Rocky

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #105 on: February 16, 2024, 09:40:58 AM »
Maybe more men are identifying as women now?

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Dano

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #106 on: February 16, 2024, 09:03:55 PM »
Forgive my ignorance. But, the way I read this bill it does not include any clause to exempt anyone that currently has a legally registered firearm that falls within the description that is proposed to be banned. Am I wrong?

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #107 on: February 16, 2024, 09:14:13 PM »
Forgive my ignorance. But, the way I read this bill it does not include any clause to exempt anyone that currently has a legally registered firearm that falls within the description that is proposed to be banned. Am I wrong?
The last part of the bill is the "grandfather".

But mags and HI compliant "assault pistols" are not grandfathered in. And there is no compensation for them either.

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macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #108 on: February 16, 2024, 09:25:22 PM »
and even if you are grandfathered, you cannot sell or transfer to family members...

The last part of the bill is the "grandfather".

But mags and HI compliant "assault pistols" are not grandfathered in. And there is no compensation for them either.

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Downfall

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #109 on: February 16, 2024, 09:51:06 PM »
and even if you are grandfathered, you cannot sell or transfer to family members...

If you move out of state can they go with you, and if you decide to sell them outside of the state can they be shipped or flown outside of the state?

Dano

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #110 on: February 16, 2024, 10:01:55 PM »
Thanks for the clarification.
I’ll continue on to the next round of testimony.

Q

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #111 on: February 16, 2024, 10:03:35 PM »
need someone to testify on behalf of the most powerful union....Politicians center of gravity is their donors. They have a fake persona that is presented in election years but their real face is towards their donor list. Get on their list or influence it.

Look at the state disclosures for donations. Most of the donors benefit directly or supplementally from a disarmed populace

Q

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #112 on: February 16, 2024, 11:08:50 PM »
I didn't watch the video yet but heard "The Veteran" and his story about carrying an M4 and it made me wonder what his job actually was? If I had to guess it would probably be something involving psychological warfare. You could really hear the animosity coming out of his voice when he referred to our side.

So I looked up Chris Marvin Everytown since he is on their "advisory council" and found the Marvin Strategies website. It looks like a freelance marketing outfit, but who knows with all the trillions getting thrown around these days? His bio says he "served for seven years as a U.S. Army officer and Black Hawk helicopter pilot" and he was combat wounded but that's about it as far as details.

Anyway this was on their front page. Kinda creepy if you ask me. Also he's on a first name basis with legislators. He got a "thank you Chris" from Wakai at the end of his testimony.



Although I'm not attempting to diminish his service in a combat zone, his record, which he believes gives his opinion more validation over everyone else's, seems quite stretchy.

He was not combat wounded, as he was not a recipient of the purple heart. Having searched the database, I was unable to find any record of him receiving a purple heart, meaning that the helicopter crash that he constantly references was not due to enemy contact or engagement. In contrast, I was able to find every friend severely injured or KIA in seconds.

I see no indication that he was awarded the bronze with with combat valor distinction (the "V"), which is a major defining factor between the types of bronze stars awarded. You can get a bronze star without the V for meritorious service and achievement, which coincides with the other medals he publicly presents: the meritorious service medal and the air service medal. When your factor in that his aviation and military career ended after that crash, it become a little more apparent that his bronze likely has nothing to do with engaging enemies; especially engagement with an "M4".

And having served in the same combat zone, I can 99% guarantee he did not "carry his M4" in the same capacity that we did. He was a Blackhawk pilot, not a gunner, with even the latter having very little use for their primary weapon while on aerial missions. And Assuming he wasn't running dismounted missions while attached to infantry or SOC units, he likely never left his chopper outside the wire and likely only had to "carry his M4" while back on base, Camp or FOB.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #113 on: February 17, 2024, 08:48:24 AM »
If you move out of state can they go with you, and if you decide to sell them outside of the state can they be shipped or flown outside of the state?
Yes. Assuming its not to CA or like places with similar laws.

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oldfart

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #114 on: February 17, 2024, 08:51:37 AM »
Yes. Assuming its not to CA or like places with similar laws.

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changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #115 on: February 17, 2024, 09:11:29 AM »
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My boys are telling me to ship my stuff to my son who moved to Las Vegas.
Only ur mags or "assault pistols".

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Downfall

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #116 on: February 17, 2024, 09:36:41 AM »
Yes. Assuming its not to CA or like places with similar laws.

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Yea the wife and I are looking to either move to Vegas, or Texas still doing a bunch of learning of the two places. it's been in the works for a while now. But it's always hard to leave the island.

randay

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #117 on: February 17, 2024, 10:04:29 AM »
Yea the wife and I are looking to either move to Vegas, or Texas still doing a bunch of learning of the two places. it's been in the works for a while now. But it's always hard to leave the island.

You might have to personally travel with all your firearms. The bill does not have an exemption for licensed dealers, at the moment. Just something to consider.

hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #118 on: February 17, 2024, 10:11:20 AM »
Yea the wife and I are looking to either move to Vegas, or Texas still doing a bunch of learning of the two places. it's been in the works for a while now. But it's always hard to leave the island.

Vegas becomes unlivable if the price of energy spikes too much. Texas is on the front line of a border war with thousands of potential terrorists showing up every day. Oahu will turn into Cannibal Apocalypse Island if the boats stop running, but at least we don't need AC to survive or have to worry about freezing to death.
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION ASSAULT WEAPON BAN HEARING 2/14 @3PM
« Reply #119 on: February 17, 2024, 11:21:44 AM »
Yea the wife and I are looking to either move to Vegas, or Texas still doing a bunch of learning of the two places. it's been in the works for a while now. But it's always hard to leave the island.
Read the vegas thread in off topic. Some good info there.

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