Wakai is a career journalist. https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/biography/32272/glenn-wakai
local civil servant positions don't attract the best and brightest
but the insanity in our society is to always look to government for an answer.

ain't that the truth!

Guys like Wakai take superpac money in exchange for introducing legislation.

It's good he reduced the severity of the ammo bill.  But it was due to being pressured with the bad media.  I don't think he would've changed it if not for that.

Last year he just steamrolled sb1230 through without any thought for our side.  In fact he asked the gun control side for more places to ban guns from.

Then in my opinion Wakai is nothing but ku-kai.

Then in my opinion Wakai is nothing but ku-kai.

Tojo Wakai

It's good he reduced the severity of the ammo bill.  But it was due to being pressured with the bad media.  I don't think he would've changed it if not for that.

Last year he just steamrolled sb1230 through without any thought for our side.  In fact he asked the gun control side for more places to ban guns from.

The station manager at KITV organized the planned "spontaneous" mandatory "volunteer" protest against the 2a a few years ago where public school kids were threatened with suspension by public school staff if they didn't assemble outside as "protest".
The "feminist rights" Marxist "grassroots group leader" who coordinated it on behalf of her funders was also the KITV station manager, she even used a KITV email/social media link for her contact.

The station manager at KITV organized the planned "spontaneous" mandatory "volunteer" protest against the 2a a few years ago where public school kids were threatened with suspension by public school staff if they didn't assemble outside as "protest".
The "feminist rights" Marxist "grassroots group leader" who coordinated it on behalf of her funders was also the KITV station manager, she even used a KITV email/social media link for her contact.

I didn't know the behind the scenes stuff.  Got a name?

I just watched the "march for our lives" parade through back then.

I didn't know the behind the scenes stuff.  Got a name?

I just watched the "march for our lives" parade through back then.

I don't have it on this device, try looking at the KITV coverage where they tell you how to join the protest.

I didn't know the behind the scenes stuff.  Got a name?

I just watched the "march for our lives" parade through back then.

funny, somebody rained on their parade.  LGBT-theme umbrella leading the way.  of course.

we are being disarmed and the youth are being indoctrinated.

It conflicts with 134-4 and -5 which says ANY legally acquired firearm which would override SB3196 unless changed.

Don't testify on that tho.

Just shows you how much these politicians have their heads up each other’s ass. 

They really don’t know what laws have passed and how their latest “good idea” conflicts with current law.

What a bunch of stupid madafakas.

Looked at the amendments again removing the ban on possession and control and still banning sales and transfer.

HRS 134-5 states under 21 can "may carry and use ... suitable ammunition while actually engaged in hunting or target shooting..."

So they can use ammunition they already have.  However no one can sell, distribute, or transfer ammunition to them.  So they can use what they got now, but can't get anymore once the law goes into effect.  Still messed up.

Looked at the amendments again removing the ban on possession and control and still banning sales and transfer.

HRS 134-5 states under 21 can "may carry and use ... suitable ammunition while actually engaged in hunting or target shooting..."

So they can use ammunition they already have.  However no one can sell, distribute, or transfer ammunition to them.  So they can use what they got now, but can't get anymore once the law goes into effect.  Still messed up.

What’s meant by “distribute, or otherwise transfer”? If I’m at the range or hunting with a minor, am I prohibited from handing a box of ammo to the minor because it’s a transfer? Seems like these scenarios in combination with HB2342 would make the person a class C felon.

SB2845
"§134-    Sale of ammunition to a person under the age of twenty-one; prohibition; penalty.  (a)  No person shall knowingly sell, offer to sell, distribute, or otherwise transfer ammunition for any firearm to any person who is under the age of twenty-one.
     (b)  It is a defense to a prosecution for the sale of ammunition to a person under the age of twenty-one that the defendant sold the ammunition to the person under the age of twenty-one with the belief, which was reasonable under the circumstances, that the person under the age of twenty-one had attained the age of twenty-one.
     (c)  Any person violating subsection (a) shall be guilty of a misdemeanor."

HB2342
“~134- Carrying or use of a firearm in the commission of a separate misdemeanor; penalty. (a) It shall be unlawful for a person to knowingly carry on the person or have within the person’s immediate control or intentionally use or threaten to use a firearm while engaged in the commission of a separate misdemeanor offense, whether the firearm was loaded or not, and whether operable or not; provided that a person shall not be prosecuted under this section when the separate offense is an offense otherwise defined by this chapter or is the offense of criminally negligent storage of a firearm under section 707- 714.5.
(b) A conviction and sentence under this section shall be in addition to and not in lieu of any conviction and sentence for the separate misdemeanor; provided that the sentence imposed under this section may run concurrently or consecutively with the sentence for the separate misdemeanor.
(c) Any person violating this section shall be guilty of a class C felony.”

I find it plausible that a person hunting in the woods could accidentally drop some ammo and unfortunately lose it.  And a youth walking the same trail could find it later.

Or a person on a boating trip accidentally loses a case of ammo overboard.  Then a bunch of youths on a snorkeling trip find it.

I find it plausible that a person hunting in the woods could accidentally drop some ammo and unfortunately lose it.  And a youth walking the same trail could find it later.

Or a person on a boating trip accidentally loses a case of ammo overboard.  Then a bunch of youths on a snorkeling trip find it.

....
We're only human. Accidents happen.
I lose stuff all the time. Nobody's perfect.

This isnt' on Dr. Greens veto list.

FYI before you let anyone shoot your gun, you must check their government issued ID. Even if they're a grandpa.