The hearing is 24 hours later on 2/22 at 2pm.

This bill allows possession of butterfly knives and switchblades, but you cannot conceal it.

The hearing is 24 hours later on 2/22 at 2pm.

This bill allows possession of butterfly knives and switchblades, but you cannot conceal it.

I’m surprised. What are your thoughts on this?

That's like having a toilet in your bathroom but you can't use it because it might pollute the ocean.

Not being able to carry either concealed makes it useless. 

Due to the Roa vs. Lopez lawsuit, HI is forced to make switchblades and butterfly knives legal.  But what they're doing is a giant F-U to everyone by saying you cannot conceal them.

Same when they made Tasers legal due to the Roberts vs. Hawaii lawsuit.

Instead of simple bills, they throw things in to stop us.

You don’t think there’s some value in being able to easily buy them?  It’s not like cops are patting you down daily. Read your previous. I get where you’re coming from.

Not being able to carry either concealed makes it useless.

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So I guess it's OK to walk around with it in your hand.
Aka...brandishing.
legislators are retarded.

You don’t think there’s some value in being able to easily buy them?  It’s not like cops are patting you down daily. Read your previous. I get where you’re coming from.

The concept that HI is doing is that you can own them, but realistically, you cannot carry them outside of your home.

And add in it might make the Roa lawsuit moot as the law has been changed. Thus stiffing the atty with the bill. Like how they did for Tasers.

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So I guess it's OK to walk around with it in your hand.
Aka...brandishing.
legislators are retarded.

They aren't retarded, more like corrupt. Instead of just making tasers legal, they created a 50 page bill about restricting the sale and hoops to jump thru.

This is a video we created for our switchblade knife lawsuit to demonstrate drawing times and that a switchblade isn't any different from other available knives.
It has some lessons on how to deploy a knife correctly from a pocket, and the different mechanisms.  It was made by renown martial artist Burton Richardson who lives in Hawaii and teaches classes.

It's also an example of the care and detailed analysis we include into the lawsuits we do which cost money and time.  Notice the detailed explanation and process that goes into expert witness demonstration.

Did you read the rest of the bill?

It's another deterrent for concealed carriers. If you commit a misdemeanor then it automatically gets bumped up to a felony regardless if the gun was even operable.

So don't fill out a form properly, drive too fast, or ask a public official too many questions and you're looking at a two spot 

Did you read the rest of the bill?

It's another deterrent for concealed carriers. If you commit a misdemeanor then it automatically gets bumped up to a felony regardless if the gun was even operable.

So don't fill out a form properly, drive too fast, or ask a public official too many questions and you're looking at a two spot 

Excessive speeding is a petty misdemeanor. IDK if that and "misdemeanor" are the same. But you're onto something here.  This is why HI pushed the "duty to inform" law/ordinance. They want to catch you armed and add more charges.

I googled "misdemeanor examples" and this is what came up.

"Minor drug offenses, such as possession.
Drunk driving.
Petty theft, including shoplifting.
Minor or simple assault or battery.
Trespassing.
Vandalism.
Minor sex crimes, including solicitation, prostitution and indecent exposure.
Resisting arrest."

If the SB3196 passes, then having a rifle mag is a misdemeanor. But this bill would increase it to a felony if you're shooting with said mag as you're in possession of a firearm at the range.  In HI, a firearm misdemeanor means you lose your 2A right for 20 years. But not true in other states. But now this is a felony, you lose your 2a right nationwide.

Did you read the rest of the bill?

It's another deterrent for concealed carriers. If you commit a misdemeanor then it automatically gets bumped up to a felony regardless if the gun was even operable.

So don't fill out a form properly, drive too fast, or ask a public official too many questions and you're looking at a two spot 

This was something I was looking at and needed help with.  What crimes do people inadvertantly do or are very minor crimes that are misdemeanors.

Excessive speeding is a petty misdemeanor. IDK if that and "misdemeanor" are the same.

Petty misdemeanors are not included in this bill

If the SB3196 passes, then having a rifle mag is a misdemeanor. But this bill would increase it to a felony if you're shooting with said mag as you're in possession of a firearm at the range.  In HI, a firearm misdemeanor means you lose your 2A right for 20 years. But not true in other states. But now this is a felony, you lose your 2a right nationwide.

Any crimes in hrs 134 Firearms does not trigger the felony in the bill.

Will the smoke ever clear and the dust ever settle on all of this crap?

Looks like it is destined to go on and on forever with no end in sight.  And right now it's about as clear as mud.

Or sh*t.

Will the smoke ever clear and the dust ever settle on all of this crap?

Looks like it is destined to go on and on forever with no end in sight.  And right now it's about as clear as mud.

Or sh*t.

Correct. The state could have made it simple and just deleted the ban. But instead they choose to make things difficult. Same with Tasers. HI hates self defense tools and will fight to restrict them as much as possible.

Testimony is online. Of course HPD, AG, and Prosecutors office supports the bill.

This was something I was looking at and needed help with.  What crimes do people inadvertantly do or are very minor crimes that are misdemeanors.

I got a good one, playing fireworks is a misdemeanor.

There's 10,000 people playing fireworks violating the misdemeanor law, but the one guy carrying and playing fireworks gets the felony.

This was something I was looking at and needed help with.  What crimes do people inadvertantly do or are very minor crimes that are misdemeanors.

Possessing and/or listening to/watching "pirated" movies and music.  According to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), even if you own the movie on physical digital media, you can't legally copy it to your own home media server, laptop, cellphone, tablet, etc. for your own personal use without breaking the law.

Using Internet gaming sites and gambling with real money.

Did you or your paid preparer include "questionable" items in your state and federal tax returns?  Signing the return constitutes a crime.