FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24 (Read 43669 times)

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #180 on: March 12, 2024, 07:38:08 AM »
getting back on track...

sound familiar?

"Gun Owners of America (GOA) and its sister organization, the Gun Owners Foundation, on Monday filed a petition for certiorari with the Supreme Court in their challenge to the Protect Illinois Communities Act (PICA). The groups, representing Illinois gun owners, argue the law imposes an unconstitutional, sweeping ban on hundreds of commonly owned and lawfully used rifles and ammunition magazines."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gun-rights-groups-ask-supreme-court-strike-illinois-assault-weapons-ban

And the NRA-ILA....crickets.

6716J

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #181 on: March 12, 2024, 07:48:30 AM »
And the NRA-ILA....crickets.

The NRA is dead to most of the under 50 crowd. The under 50 is FPC (Stack up or Fuck off/Lawsuit printer go brrrr)  and GOA. The NRA is now just another behemoth lobbying group that takes most of the $ for its governing board. Wayne didn't go poor "fighting for our rights"....
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

Rocky

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #182 on: March 12, 2024, 08:25:08 AM »
And the NRA-ILA....crickets.
Got a call from NRA to "up" our membership.
I asked him what nra has done for Hawaii amongst all of the recent "law changes/proposals".
He went on to tell me all of the good they are doing nationally.
I then informed him of all of these laws and proposals and let him know nra has been totally absent in our defense and that when nra starts supporting Hawaii gun owners, Hawaii gun owners will return to supporting nra.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

QUIETShooter

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #183 on: March 12, 2024, 10:39:50 AM »
Got a call from NRA to "up" our membership.
I asked him what nra has done for Hawaii amongst all of the recent "law changes/proposals".
He went on to tell me all of the good they are doing nationally.
I then informed him of all of these laws and proposals and let him know nra has been totally absent in our defense and that when nra starts supporting Hawaii gun owners, Hawaii gun owners will return to supporting nra.

Was trying to find out what national gun rights groups were helping us fight bills like SB3196.  I could be wrong but I didn't see groups like the NRA and GOA helping us fight.

Why is that?  I really appreciate what HIFICO is doing here and was wondering why these national groups don't help HIFICO.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #184 on: March 12, 2024, 11:25:57 AM »
Was trying to find out what national gun rights groups were helping us fight bills like SB3196.  I could be wrong but I didn't see groups like the NRA and GOA helping us fight.

Why is that?  I really appreciate what HIFICO is doing here and was wondering why these national groups don't help HIFICO.

HI is too small to spend $ on.  Which is why HIFICO was formed.  National groups weren't doing anything/much.

What the big org's don't see is that what happens in 1 state, spreads to others. Like a cancer.

QUIETShooter

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #185 on: March 12, 2024, 11:58:48 AM »
HI is too small to spend $ on.  Which is why HIFICO was formed.  National groups weren't doing anything/much.

What the big org's don't see is that what happens in 1 state, spreads to others. Like a cancer.

I see.  That's really too bad.  Especially when Rocky mentioned that the NRA rep had the nerve to ask for help in increased membership from the Hawaii people.

Nobody wants to support a one-sided affair.  They seem like fair-weather friends.  Or more accurately like insurance companies.  Quick to take your money but nowhere to be found when you need help.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #186 on: March 12, 2024, 12:13:53 PM »
I see.  That's really too bad.  Especially when Rocky mentioned that the NRA rep had the nerve to ask for help in increased membership from the Hawaii people.

Nobody wants to support a one-sided affair.  They seem like fair-weather friends.  Or more accurately like insurance companies.  Quick to take your money but nowhere to be found when you need help.

This was reported in 2020:
Quote
The Washington Post, which reviewed the NRA’s tax filings, reported in
November that LaPierre received a 57 percent pay raise in 2018, increasing
his overall compensation to $2.15 million.

The 70-year-old’s base salary was stated to be $1.3 million, and he received
a bonus of $455,000. The remaining $395,000 came from "other reportable
compensation."
https://www.distractify.com/p/nra-leadership-salaries

And this was just last month:
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A Manhattan jury found three top executives of the National Rifle Association
liable Friday in a lengthy civil trial that focused on alleged corruption and the
misspending of millions of dollars.

Longtime NRA leader Wayne LaPierre, a key architect in the nonprofit's hardline
gun rights agenda who stepped down as CEO last month, was central to the case
brought by New York state Attorney General Letitia James.

After a six week trial and a week of deliberations, a jurors found that LaPierre
"violated his statutory obligation to discharge the duties of his position in good faith."

They concluded that he had caused roughly $5.4 million worth of harm to the nonprofit
group's finances — though they also found that LaPierre had already repaid about $1 million.
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/23/1232229060/nra-wayne-lapierre-corruption-trial-verdict-new-york


I always find it unfathomable how anyone being paid millions every year turns to corruption.  Are the first 10 years of multi-million dollar compensation packages just not enough?

Money = Power, & Power Corrupts.

i guess when you have to support these kinds of 'expenses,' every NRA member you can convince to join or up-size their membership means more for the top of that pyramid, huh?

To be fair, I got a jacket, a leather travel bag, and a cool certificate and membership card.  I'm glad now I didn't check the box saying keep my goodies.  Otherwise, i would have gotten nothing at all for my money!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #187 on: March 12, 2024, 12:25:26 PM »
That bonus could have easily been used to fund about 8 lawsuits.

hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #188 on: March 12, 2024, 12:31:39 PM »

I always find it unfathomable how anyone being paid millions every year turns to corruption.  Are the first 10 years of multi-million dollar compensation packages just not enough?

Money = Power, & Power Corrupts.


The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Placing too much value on materialism creates endless misery because the void of desire can never be filled.

That's why elites are obsessed with enslaving us and having sex with kids. They are running into the limits of power and are looking for anything that represents a challenge.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #189 on: March 12, 2024, 12:40:33 PM »
That bonus could have easily been used to fund about 8 lawsuits.

I think they meant "bone us."  That's what it seems was happening.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #190 on: March 12, 2024, 12:43:17 PM »
The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Placing too much value on materialism creates endless misery because the void of desire can never be filled.

That's why elites are obsessed with enslaving us and having sex with kids. They are running into the limits of power and are looking for anything that represents a challenge.

If they need a challenge, they can try living paycheck to paycheck and barely able to make ends meet, like the people who sent in their $20, $40 or $75 NRA membership dues in support of our 2A rights.

i guess that's just crazy talk, though.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

randay

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #191 on: March 19, 2024, 04:17:32 PM »
is JHA killing this bill by not scheduling it?

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #192 on: March 19, 2024, 05:43:19 PM »
is JHA killing this bill by not scheduling it?

Yes. I think the deadline is 3/29 as they need to give the usual 24hrs notice.  Someone can confirm this as I'm not 100% sure.

rpoL98

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #193 on: March 20, 2024, 10:43:12 AM »
i would not be shocked if Karl Rhoads is doing all kinds of back-room, dark-money, George Soros sweetheart stacks of cash ("rubber bands") to steam-roller this through.  untold promises of un-traceable campaign funds for re-election campaigns.  Fani Willis kind of cash.

BRU

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #194 on: March 21, 2024, 06:21:03 AM »
Yes. I think the deadline is 3/29 as they need to give the usual 24hrs notice.  Someone can confirm this as I'm not 100% sure.

According to the legislative calendar, it sounds like the bill would need to be at the final committee by tomorrow but it wasn’t scheduled in the first committee as of today. I’m not sure how many committees are involved in the House.

MAR 21  SECOND LATERAL FILING (BILLS) – Filing Deadline for Second Lateral Bills.
MAR 22  SECOND LATERAL (BILLS) – All bills with multiple referrals must move to their final referral committee in the non-originating chamber by this date.

zippz

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #195 on: March 21, 2024, 07:03:29 AM »
April 4th is the absolute last day for a hearing.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #196 on: March 21, 2024, 07:54:31 AM »
April 4th is the absolute last day for a hearing.

Which means 4/2 is the latest a hearing notice can be given (48hrs).

BRU

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #197 on: March 21, 2024, 09:09:23 AM »
What’s the reason why SB1230 went through the JHA and FIN House committees last year versus SB3196 just being referred to only JHA this session?

2aDefends1a

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #198 on: March 21, 2024, 09:51:54 AM »
According to the legislative calendar, it sounds like the bill would need to be at the final committee by tomorrow but it wasn’t scheduled in the first committee as of today. I’m not sure how many committees are involved in the House.

MAR 21  SECOND LATERAL FILING (BILLS) – Filing Deadline for Second Lateral Bills.
MAR 22  SECOND LATERAL (BILLS) – All bills with multiple referrals must move to their final referral committee in the non-originating chamber by this date.

Since this only has one committee, is that considered the final committee? If so, does that mean they have until tomorrow to schedule it or else it's dead?

macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #199 on: March 21, 2024, 09:56:20 AM »
Since this only has one committee, is that considered the final committee? If so, does that mean they have until tomorrow to schedule it or else it's dead?

no, it needs to be heard and a report filed by 4/4
that means the announcement has to be made by 4/2