Hawaii's Ministry of Truth (Read 2447 times)

aletheuo137

Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« on: March 28, 2024, 07:42:37 AM »
Hawaii wants its own Ministry of Truth to police social media accounts for “disinformation”

This is directly from the text of SR132:

“WHEREAS, proliferation of social media has enabled some organizations and individuals with broad reach presenting themselves as news sources to intentionally or inadvertently spread misinformation, making it difficult for the average person to distinguish truth from fiction”

Hearing is 4/1 10:30 am, testimony due by 3/29 10:30 am.

Please OPPOSE this resolution!!

Oh and not a surprise that Fevella is a cosponsor. He needs to just run as a Dem when his term is up.

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QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2024, 08:09:53 AM »
Aloha Spirit by another name:  Communism.

Aloha Spirit sounds nicer.  Kinder.  Gentler.  Killing me softly.......
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

drck1000

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2024, 08:30:27 AM »
Control of news outlets?

Directly from Joseph Goebbels. . .

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2024, 08:38:23 AM »
Control of news outlets?

Directly from Joseph Goebbels. . .

This is a direct violation of the 1st Amendment -- government censorship of individual speech.

That's the nature of freedom. People are at liberty to post lies (the government does it all the time), and everyone else is free to believe the lies or not.  Most of us ignore them.

I'd ask those in the legislature one question:  when the Democrat Party under the leadership of Hillary Clinton's campaign created the Russia Collusion hoax, and the FBI illegally obtained FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, and when their lawyer lied about Carter Page being a CIA asset, and then continued their hoax for years to disrupt the Trump administration, is that the level of scrutiny we can expect from this Hawaii government based censorship board?

Has anyone bothered to apologize to the American people for silencing the people who refused to believe the lies and misinformation coming out of the White House and DOJ?

If government can't get the big things right, how can we trust them to get the little ones right?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2024, 08:50:25 AM »
This is a direct violation of the 1st Amendment -- government censorship of individual speech.

That's the nature of freedom. People are at liberty to post lies (the government does it all the time), and everyone else is free to believe the lies or not.  Most of us ignore them.


I'd ask those in the legislature one question:  when the Democrat Party under the leadership of Hillary Clinton's campaign created the Russia Collusion hoax, and the FBI illegally obtained FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, and when their lawyer lied about Carter Page being a CIA asset, and then continued their hoax for years to disrupt the Trump administration, is that the level of scrutiny we can expect from this Hawaii government based censorship board?

Has anyone bothered to apologize to the American people for silencing the people who refused to believe the lies and misinformation coming out of the White House and DOJ?

If government can't get the big things right, how can we trust them to get the little ones right?
Yeah, that's what I was getting at.  I have always been interested in WWII (history, events leading up, etc).  Been watching the "in color" shows of the events recently.

To your question, if those being asked are already biased by the propo, then what's the use?  [rhetorical]

Begle1

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2024, 09:42:55 AM »
Everything is propaganda.
Even the truth?
Especially the truth.

drck1000

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2024, 10:01:49 AM »
Everything is propaganda.
Even the truth?
Especially the truth.
"Trust but verify" (hopefully independently)

aletheuo137

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2024, 10:15:52 AM »


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ren

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2024, 10:57:49 AM »
because we have dumb people writing sh1t
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/more-and-more-of-our-kupuna-are-becoming-homeless/

If we lower prices, then the wealthy don’t have as much surplus profits. If we eliminate houselessness, then non-profits and state/federal/city/county agencies would lose funding, which means people would lose their jobs.
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2024, 11:23:16 AM »
because we have dumb people writing sh1t
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/more-and-more-of-our-kupuna-are-becoming-homeless/

If we lower prices, then the wealthy don’t have as much surplus profits. If we eliminate houselessness, then non-profits and state/federal/city/county agencies would lose funding, which means people would lose their jobs.

In other words, suffering creates jobs. 

We want more suffering so more people can have jobs which helps ease the suffering.   :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2024, 11:24:56 AM »
because we have dumb people writing sh1t
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/more-and-more-of-our-kupuna-are-becoming-homeless/

If we lower prices, then the wealthy don’t have as much surplus profits. If we eliminate houselessness, then non-profits and state/federal/city/county agencies would lose funding, which means people would lose their jobs.

This is just the tip of the iceberg as to why our country will never ever move forward to improve the quality of life for everyone.

Keep them sick.
Keep them ignorant.
Keep them poor.
Keep them clueless.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

ren

Deeds Not Words

macsak

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2024, 02:39:00 PM »
cool story, bro...

With all the fake news we should have some 3rd party post disclaimers much like Twitter and their fact checker. Soon with AI advances telling fact from fiction will only get harder.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2024, 06:06:02 PM »
With all the fake news we should have some 3rd party post disclaimers much like Twitter and their fact checker. Soon with AI advances telling fact from fiction will only get harder.

And who are these geniuses who are able to discern the truth from fiction in all countries, states, cities, towns, schools, businesses, government agencies, and so on?  Who is an expert in all facets of every possible category of information being posted online?

What's the consequence of getting it wrong?  Once the damage to the creator is done, do we now have to make it right with a giant check backed by more government debt?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2024, 10:29:22 PM »
Have you seen the Hawaii Society of Professional Journalists website?

Design circa 1996 and last updated 2021.

The legislature might want to check that they are all not dead from turbo cancer before they write them a stupid letter.

https://www.hawaiispj.org/
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii's Ministry of Truth
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2024, 11:01:58 PM »
Have you seen the Hawaii Society of Professional Journalists website?

Design circa 1996 and last updated 2021.

The legislature might want to check that they are all not dead from turbo cancer before they write them a stupid letter.

https://www.hawaiispj.org/

And they are using a free GMail account for official business, too.

Nothing screams professionalism like a GMail account.

 :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw