I just applied for my ccw today and i can already see that im likely to get jerked around.   Ive had no issues with permits to acquire, and i got my permit early for my last purchase in december.   But the officer today asked me if i ever needed a physicians letter for my permits to acquire in the past so im already expecting a hold up.


They quoted me the same 2-3 months as per usual but we'll see.   Ill start watching the mail in July.




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Did the cop ask you as you turned it in?  Or call you after, which means they looked into your background?

Unless the cop reviewed your app and it noted some mental health question that was not marked in your favor.

Ccw approval came. 84 days.


It comes regular mail now and not certified.

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The “LICENSE TOCARRY A FIREARM- AFFIDAVIT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT” form we have to fill out. Does it have to get notarized?

The “LICENSE TOCARRY A FIREARM- AFFIDAVIT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT” form we have to fill out. Does it have to get notarized?

No.

Did the cop ask you as you turned it in?  Or call you after, which means they looked into your background?

Unless the cop reviewed your app and it noted some mental health question that was not marked in your favor.

He asked as i was filling out the forms and checking i had everything. They hadnt started reveiwing anything. It could be nothing but they didnt require it when i bought my last gun a few months ago so it caught my attention.

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   We  have our ''Affidavits of Acknowledgement " notarized.
Most been getting our approval around 30 days after submission.
One submitted app March 25, approval letter dated April 18, received April 19, 25 days

   We  have our ''Affidavits of Acknowledgement " notarized.
Most been getting our approval around 30 days after submission.
One submitted app March 25, approval letter dated April 18, received April 19, 25 days

Mine's wasn't and I got my CCW.

please show me where he said it was required...

Mine's wasn't and I got my CCW.

He asked as i was filling out the forms and checking i had everything. They hadnt started reveiwing anything. It could be nothing but they didnt require it when i bought my last gun a few months ago so it caught my attention.

Looks like they are trying to streamline the process, possibly as a result of the HIFICO settlement posted today.

asking when you apply for anything you might possible be asked for when they do their review later gives you a chance to provide it sooner rather than waiting to be asked later.

maybe.

please show me where he said it was required...

Please show me where I stated that it's required.

Mine's wasn't and I got my CCW.

Perhaps by going above and beyond is the reason why we don't have to wait 12 weeks to get our permits. 

Perhaps by going above and beyond is the reason why we don't have to wait 12 weeks to get our permits. 

Possible. But also opens them up to another lawsuit.

Did the cop ask you as you turned it in?  Or call you after, which means they looked into your background?

Unless the cop reviewed your app and it noted some mental health question that was not marked in your favor.

Update to this.


They asked as i was doing the application because i had answered the mental health portion (as i had before when purchssing the pistol) as it pertains to a condition.

They they said it shoukdnt be a problem, just that "well you know our standards are higher for carry" as if to prime me for a possible rejection.


They called me im late July about 80 days after i applied because they misunderstood the "alias" section i filled out (as directed to by the officer on duty when i applied) and just corrected the i fo on my app over the phone. That seems to be when they started the background check becsuse they told me they jad just stsrted the review.

I got my approval letter yesterday, 110 days from application.    Mental health never got brought up i suppose, just my name discrepency. Still miffed that they took over 80 days to even open up my application though.

I am wondering if my mental health history held up the process however as most people seem to be getting their approvals in 80-90 days.   Im guessing they called my psych and therapist and dragged the whole thing out.   Thank God i don't habe Kaiser red flagging me.




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Looks like they are trying to streamline the process, possibly as a result of the HIFICO settlement posted today.

asking when you apply for anything you might possible be asked for when they do their review later gives you a chance to provide it sooner rather than waiting to be asked later.

maybe.

Given my experience and reports from others it honestly just sounds like they dont have many people actually filling that section out and the guy on duty assumed id have a letter like the Kaiser people have had to do. 


Didnt streamline much given that they admitted they hadnt even touched my application until it had been over 80 days.   Oh well.

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Update to this.


They asked as i was doing the application because i had answered the mental health portion (as i had before when purchssing the pistol) as it pertains to a condition.

They they said it shoukdnt be a problem, just that "well you know our standards are higher for carry" as if to prime me for a possible rejection.


They called me im late July about 80 days after i applied because they misunderstood the "alias" section i filled out (as directed to by the officer on duty when i applied) and just corrected the i fo on my app over the phone. That seems to be when they started the background check becsuse they told me they jad just stsrted the review.

I got my approval letter yesterday, 110 days from application.    Mental health never got brought up i suppose, just my name discrepency. Still miffed that they took over 80 days to even open up my application though.

I am wondering if my mental health history held up the process however as most people seem to be getting their approvals in 80-90 days.   Im guessing they called my psych and therapist and dragged the whole thing out.   Thank God i don't habe Kaiser red flagging me.




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I know a bunch of guys with zero things that would cause a delay waiting 100 days now.  If HPD can run a permit to acquire in 2 weeks, they can do a CCW in the same or less.  It's just that they aren't allocating enough resouces to the CCW section.

The lawsuit settlement gives them 120 days. Try applying in some CA cities, 8 months and nothing. IIRC, there's a lawsuit in CA for that too. I wanna say San DIego, but I'm not sure.

I know a bunch of guys with zero things that would cause a delay waiting 100 days now.  If HPD can run a permit to acquire in 2 weeks, they can do a CCW in the same or less.  It's just that they aren't allocating enough resouces to the CCW section.

The lawsuit settlement gives them 120 days. Try applying in some CA cities, 8 months and nothing. IIRC, there's a lawsuit in CA for that too. I wanna say San DIego, but I'm not sure.

Yeah honestly as soon as that 120 ruling came i just assumed theyd run it out to the end because they can now. Im willing to bet this is intentional now that they have a strict deadline forced on them.  Malicious compliance.

(not saying the cops at the desk are doing it thst way, just that i wouldn't be surprised if they made it internal policy from up top)

I think multiple counties/cities in CA have lawsuits. I know the bay area counties were fighting the extreme fees too

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Yeah honestly as soon as that 120 ruling came i just assumed theyd run it out to the end because they can now. Im willing to bet this is intentional now that they have a strict deadline forced on them.  Malicious compliance.

(not saying the cops at the desk are doing it thst way, just that i wouldn't be surprised if they made it internal policy from up top)

I think multiple counties/cities in CA have lawsuits. I know the bay area counties were fighting the extreme fees too

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The cops doing the paperwork are under staffed. So it's not really their fault. It comes from the brass and budget and lawmakers and anti 2a org's like Everytown and Moms Demand Action. They want all these laws and hoops, which takes more time to process apps.  Keep in mind that we're all already gun owners. If we were so dangerous to no be able to CCW, then the guns should be consfiscated too right?

THe prior extra delay was cause of the lawsuit. There were those waiting 8 months and the settlement also agreed that their apps would be processed in like 60 days or something of the settlement agreement. So those guys will take priortiy and divert resource's.  We got our CCW's just a little after 90 days and the lawsuit was already filed like 10 days prior.

To be fair, NV has a 120 day law, but they have no permit to acquire or registration. So like I stated, the PTA shows that stuff can be done in 2 weeks if they wanted to.

The cops doing the paperwork are under staffed. So it's not really their fault. It comes from the brass and budget and lawmakers and anti 2a org's like Everytown and Moms Demand Action. They want all these laws and hoops, which takes more time to process apps.  Keep in mind that we're all already gun owners. If we were so dangerous to no be able to CCW, then the guns should be consfiscated too right?

THe prior extra delay was cause of the lawsuit. There were those waiting 8 months and the settlement also agreed that their apps would be processed in like 60 days or something of the settlement agreement. So those guys will take priortiy and divert resource's.  We got our CCW's just a little after 90 days and the lawsuit was already filed like 10 days prior.

To be fair, NV has a 120 day law, but they have no permit to acquire or registration. So like I stated, the PTA shows that stuff can be done in 2 weeks if they wanted to.

I mean, keeping the division understaffed is part of policy is all im saying.

Even before ccw, under kealoha, they used to understaff the reg counter and the people working the desk were always complaiming about that. 

Its indirect, but its still a policy choice.  There was never a reason the counter only could spare one officer like they had at times.

Definitely not blaming the counter guys, just more that they seem to deliberately divert resources, and design needlessly bloated procedures to make it arduous.

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Police support these laws and politicians pass it knowing it requires more police resources and take cops off patrol.  They know the tradeoffs they're making.

I mean, keeping the division understaffed is part of policy is all im saying.

Even before ccw, under kealoha, they used to understaff the reg counter and the people working the desk were always complaiming about that. 

Its indirect, but its still a policy choice.  There was never a reason the counter only could spare one officer like they had at times.

Definitely not blaming the counter guys, just more that they seem to deliberately divert resources, and design needlessly bloated procedures to make it arduous.

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I believe it is deliberate.  They won't make this process easy when it's no secret how our politicians and LE leaders feel about this.  Just do the minimum.

Taking too long?  Ainokea is their attitude.