kaneshiro "not guilty" (Read 10510 times)

macsak

kaneshiro "not guilty"
« on: May 17, 2024, 02:30:30 PM »
even more people going to lose faith in the system...

ren

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2024, 03:41:18 PM »
No one is wearing a mask anymore and Mitsunaga isn't looking as frail. Amazing.
What next Miske and P Diddy?

« Last Edit: May 19, 2024, 08:41:17 AM by ren »
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2024, 05:44:54 PM »
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

QUIETShooter

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2024, 08:05:53 AM »
The swamp is too deep.  No can fix.  Too late.

Maybe best to hunker down and let them destroy themselves.

Hopefully re-build after.  Hope.  Ha ha.  What a concept here in banana republik hawaii.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Lihikai

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2024, 08:17:54 AM »
I was a juror for a criminal trial and Otake was the defense atty - he is very skilled and artful in conveying his arguments.  We found for the defense - not guilty.

Kuleana

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2024, 10:02:48 AM »
Hopefully re-build after.  Hope.  Ha ha.  What a concept here in banana republik hawaii.
The "re-build after" can only happen after collapse of the US empire, which automatically leads to the restoration of the Hawaiian nation state.   

Only then, can things build a new and freedom ring!  :shaka:

hvybarrels

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2024, 10:26:27 AM »
...which automatically leads to the restoration of the Hawaiian nation state.   

Sure buddy, and any day now the Roman Empire is coming back, too. Just keep waiting patiently.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2024, 11:06:47 AM »
Sure buddy, and any day now the Roman Empire is coming back, too. Just keep waiting patiently.

It's more likely than not...

The Most Famous Historian of Rome
on Why Men Are Obsessed

Quote
Women have been posting videos of themselves asking
the men in their lives how often they think about the
Roman Empire and expressing shock as these boyfriends
and husbands say they think about the Roman world
all of the time.
https://time.com/6317735/men-roman-empire-m

 :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2024, 01:58:40 PM »
It's more likely than not...

The Most Famous Historian of Rome
on Why Men Are Obsessed
https://time.com/6317735/men-roman-empire-m

 :geekdanc:


Haven't read anything from Time in a while. It's gotten really bad.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Kuleana

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2024, 07:37:32 AM »
Sure buddy, and any day now the Roman Empire is coming back, too. Just keep waiting patiently.
Well, as you often reference yourself similar to the fall of the Roman Empire; the US empire is on its way is way out the same way as Rome.

Once it does the Hawaiian nation state is restored de facto; hence you are right, we Hawaiian nationals are waiting patiently.

hvybarrels

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2024, 12:44:21 PM »
Not a fan of the verdict, but I'm wondering if the way this trial ended did more damage to the reputation of the Hawaii deep state than just another prison sentence.
Now anyone can see that if you slip the prosecutor $50k in bundled donations you can basically turn them into your attack dogs and it's all perfectly "legal".

A crooked society like that will scare away all legitimate business, just like how Alvn Bragg's war on Trump is driving an investment exodus out of New York.
Nobody wants to risk dealing with a justice system that can be bought and used against them. It looks like our local government is about to defund itself.

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

changemyoil66

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2024, 01:13:50 PM »
Not a fan of the verdict, but I'm wondering if the way this trial ended did more damage to the reputation of the Hawaii deep state than just another prison sentence.
Now anyone can see that if you slip the prosecutor $50k in bundled donations you can basically turn them into your attack dogs and it's all perfectly "legal".

A crooked society like that will scare away all legitimate business, just like how Alvn Bragg's war on Trump is driving an investment exodus out of New York.
Nobody wants to risk dealing with a justice system that can be bought and used against them. It looks like our local government is about to defund itself.

We have seen this happen around the nation and at the Federal level.  Pay to play type and money doesn't necessarily have to be involved.

Funny that this all began with a mail box and greed over an estate.

astroboy

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2024, 02:30:21 PM »
Well, as you often reference yourself similar to the fall of the Roman Empire; the US empire is on its way is way out the same way as Rome.

Once it does the Hawaiian nation state is restored de facto; hence you are right, we Hawaiian nationals are waiting patiently.

You realize that once Uncle Sam leaves Hawaii, Uncles Vlad and Xi will be perfectly happy to take Hawaii into protective custody.
Hawaii will become a "Protectorate" and dissidents will be whisked away to re-education/slave labor camps.
If you recall Hawaiian history, Russia did have a fortress or 2 built in Hawaii. American and British diplomats convinced King
Kamehameha to order that the fort to be dismantled. 

After reading what the jury foreperson stated about the trial, it appears that the defense created enough doubt about the
credibility of ex-employee Laurel Mau. In his opinion the prosecution also failed to make the case against the defendants.
I wonder if the federal prosecutors and the independent  judge were part of the scam.
I thought it was shameful for Kaneshiro and the other defendants to celebrate and laugh it up during the press conference
after the trial. Kaneshiro is an officer of the court and he should know better, but we are talking about demorats aren't we.   
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hvybarrels

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2024, 03:21:27 PM »
I thought it was shameful for Kaneshiro and the other defendants to celebrate and laugh it up during the press conference
after the trial. Kaneshiro is an officer of the court and he should know better, but we are talking about demorats aren't we.   

That's called hubris, and historically such displays appear just before the arrogant upperclass learns the hard way that the mob has turned against them.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2024, 03:41:45 PM »
That's called hubris, and historically such displays appear just before the arrogant upperclass learns the hard way that the mob has turned against them.

I didn't realize that was a rule that's true in all cultures and in all time periods.

The US is unique historically in that anyone born into low class circumstances has the opportunity to advance into a better circumstance.

I don't remember hearing that Obama was born into the elite upper class.  He got there through the opportunities available to us all.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2024, 03:50:40 PM »
I didn't realize that was a rule that's true in all cultures and in all time periods.

The US is unique historically in that anyone born into low class circumstances has the opportunity to advance into a better circumstance.

I don't remember hearing that Obama was born into the elite upper class.  He got there through the opportunities available to us all.

I was never offered an opportunity to be with someone like big mike.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2024, 03:52:18 PM »
I was never offered an opportunity to be with someone like big mike.

You see that as an opportunity?

That says a lot!

 :rofl: :shake:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2024, 04:01:18 PM »
The US is unique historically in that anyone born into low class circumstances has the opportunity to advance into a better circumstance.


That's the fantasy they sell you. The reality is much different, but up to this point most people were too afraid to peek under the carpet.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2024, 05:50:45 PM »

That's the fantasy they sell you. The reality is much different, but up to this point most people were too afraid to peek under the carpet.

Well, that's one opinion.

The history of this country is full of stories of poor, low class individuals becoming top earners and major contributors to the country.

I would reference the NBA and NFL as major examples.

It's reality, not fantasy -- unless you just refuse to put in the effort.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: kaneshiro "not guilty"
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2024, 08:43:43 PM »
You realize that once Uncle Sam leaves Hawaii, Uncles Vlad and Xi will be perfectly happy to take Hawaii into protective custody.
Hawaii will become a "Protectorate" and dissidents will be whisked away to re-education/slave labor camps.
Pure speculation and US imperial propaganda.

I think you are more worried about how much better Hawaii will be when it returns to being the free and neutral nation that it was before the illegal annexation by the US empire that screwed all the Hawaiians over.



If you recall Hawaiian history, Russia did have a fortress or 2 built in Hawaii. American and British diplomats convinced King
Kamehameha to order that the fort to be dismantled.
Having those Russian forts dismantled might have been a good idea, but not having any Russian presence was certainly a bad one.

Had the Hawaiian Kingdom maintained a strong diplomatic relationship with Russia, the illegal annexation of Hawaii by the US empire might have not taken place.
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