#ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday (Read 5084 times)

ren

#ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« on: July 05, 2024, 08:28:57 AM »
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/hawaii-to-ban-those-under-21-from-buying-ammo/

Gov. Josh Green is expected to sign a new bill into law that will ban those under 21 from purchasing ammunition

Those in support say it is a step in the right direction for public safety but others against it say it does not address the primary issue.

Sen. Glenn Wakai introduced the bill after a gun-owning constituent reached out about his suicidal daughter. Wakai said the dad was a responsible owner and kept his ammo locked separately from his gun.

“But she was able to — and I don’t know where — but buy, locally, bullets to put into that gun,” said Senate Public Safety Committee chair Glenn Wakai. “Thank goodness the girl didn’t load it and pull the trigger. She’s still alive with us today. But that story is what compelled me to introduce the bill.”


Sen. Wakai said Gov. Josh Green will sign the bill into law on Monday, July 8, which will prohibit anyone under 21 from purchasing ammunition.
Minors will still be able to handle and fire ammunition under adult supervision.

“So, we didn’t outlaw a child touching ammo, just the purchase part of it,” Sen. Wakai said.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2024, 12:31:42 PM by ren »
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changemyoil66

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2024, 09:03:57 AM »
"that story is what compelled me to introduce the bill". What he really means is "I want to take peoples rights away, and needed a sad story to get emotion on my side".

Funny, he never once mentioned this for any of the hearings.  I call BS.

If I'm reading this bill correctly, EVERYONE must check ID's before giving any ammo.  Even to grandpa's.  The bill doesn't say "if they look over 30, then no need".

This also means, if you let someone shoot your gun, you must check ID's.  Also, no tossing mags to your teammate during exercises unless you checked their ID first.

Kawika808

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2024, 12:22:48 PM »
He kept the ammo locked seperately, but she still had  unrestricted access to the gun?  Why wouldnt he keep the gun locked?

ren

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2024, 12:33:41 PM »
"that story is what compelled me to introduce the bill". What he really means is "I want to take peoples rights away, and needed a sad story to get emotion on my side".

Funny, he never once mentioned this for any of the hearings.  I call BS.

If I'm reading this bill correctly, EVERYONE must check ID's before giving any ammo.  Even to grandpa's.  The bill doesn't say "if they look over 30, then no need".

This also means, if you let someone shoot your gun, you must check ID's.  Also, no tossing mags to your teammate during exercises unless you checked their ID first.

I speculate that he didn't say it in the hearing because they are officially recorded? and making up stories to say to the media isn't.
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oldfart

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2024, 01:15:01 PM »
"It's a step in the right direction"
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2024, 03:34:39 PM »
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Sen. Wakai said Gov. Josh Green will sign the bill into law on Monday, July 8, which will prohibit anyone under 21 from purchasing ammunition.
Minors will still be able to handle and fire ammunition under adult supervision.

Since when did the definition of minor change from <18 to <21?

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2024, 03:39:04 PM »

Since when did the definition of minor change from <18 to <21?
 :crazy:
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oldfart

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2024, 03:43:15 PM »

What, Me Worry?

changemyoil66

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2024, 04:08:53 PM »
Since when did the definition of minor change from <18 to <21?

 :crazy:

Our Surgeon General does think 1-19 are minors.

ren

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2024, 04:31:45 PM »
Our Surgeon General does think 1-19 are minors.

if we can be gender fluid, why can't we be age fluid?
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changemyoil66

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2024, 04:33:49 PM »
if we can be gender fluid, why can't we be age fluid?

Or AR fluid. AR ID's as a 1779 Musket.

eyeeatingfish

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2024, 12:19:57 AM »
So an 18 year old can purchase and own a rifle but not buy ammo for it? WTF

oldfart

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2024, 04:49:32 AM »
So an 18 year old can purchase and own a rifle but not buy ammo for it? WTF
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21 is the proposed law.
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zippz

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2024, 06:11:38 AM »
So an 18 year old can purchase and own a rifle but not buy ammo for it? WTF

21 to own a rifle.  Think Hawaii is the only state to do that.  Under 21 can be loaned a rifle, though even that they attempted to take away a few years ago.

QUIETShooter

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2024, 06:23:37 AM »
Under 21 patriots of the United States have served in our Armed Services with bravery, courage, and sacrifice since the beginning of our Nation.

They fought, died, and preserved the freedoms of everyone living today.

Preserving even the freedoms of the asshats at the Capitol of this banana republik making the stupid laws we see today and the "he was a good boy" criminals that they love to coddle, spank or slap their wrists, then send them on their way through the revolving door called the criminal justice system.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2024, 09:16:35 AM by QUIETShooter »
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2024, 09:07:25 AM »
So an 18 year old can purchase and own a rifle but not buy ammo for it? WTF
No

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QUIETShooter

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2024, 09:18:03 AM »
So an 18 year old can purchase and own a rifle but not buy ammo for it? WTF

No

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18 yr. olds can handle firearms only when called to defend and die for our country.  Otherwise no dice.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2024, 12:51:28 PM »
It's okay if a 5 year old wants to cut his dick off, but don't let a 20 year old touch ammo!  :wacko:
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eyeeatingfish

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2024, 10:56:11 PM »
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21 is the proposed law.

Ok, so they would change it to match the ammo law. This is one of the dumber ideas they have

oldfart

Re: #ImmaDoctor will sign ammo ban bill Monday
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2024, 03:39:54 AM »
Ok, so they would change it to match the ammo law. This is one of the dumber ideas they have
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Correct me if I am mistaken.
21 is the new ammo ban law.
18 is the current gun law.
18 yrs can join military and shoot machine guns.

So basically, we have conflicting laws and/or ideology.

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