Google/YouTube Just Changed Their Policy Aimed at Canceling Firearm Channels (Read 2590 times)

Flapp_Jackson

According to this Hickok45 video, any videos posted after June 18th will get your YT channel deleted.

Any videos that were posted prior and violate the new policy will have those videos deleted.

That covers almost every Hickok45 video that includes shooting.  He's sponsored by Bud's Guns, a couple of ammo makers, and other firearms-related companies.

This is why content creators have been migrating to other platforms.  Even IF you comply with today's rules, you aren't protected from future rule changes.

 :wacko:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

They're taking more and more steps to having a zero firearms policy.

1 gal I watch runs an animal sanctuary.  She keeps a pistol next to her bed because she lives on site.  SHe had to blur it out because she didn't want the video being demonetized.

Flapp_Jackson

They're taking more and more steps to having a zero firearms policy.

1 gal I watch runs an animal sanctuary.  She keeps a pistol next to her bed because she lives on site.  SHe had to blur it out because she didn't want the video being demonetized.

Demonitization is a hassle, but being totally deleted from the platform is a much more serious penalty.

Consider the time and money invested in years, if not decades, of content, only to have a rule change destroy it all.

The sooner we can divorce ourselves of progressive, left-wing corporations who wield the power of cancellation over content providers, the better.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

What are the alternatives to YT?

macsak

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Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

What are the alternatives to YT?

That depends on what types of content or content providers you consume most often.

Many times, the same content is available on the provider's podcast, which means audio only.

Many podcasts can be found for free on iHeartRadio, Apple Music, Amazon, etc.  Some require a subscription.

With podcasts, you might miss out on the visual aids or source videos they play, but you can always make a note and find the sources' website on your own if you really want to see it.

For conservative content, progressive content, etc., there are platforms specifically geared toward those videos or programs.

Don't discount SiriusXM satellite radio.  They have programs from all political and entertainment categories.  I've noticed many home theater tuner/receivers have the capability to stream from SiriusXM -- just need a subscription.  That subscription works on your vehicle, home and portable compatible radios.

Some people refuse to pay for content on platforms like Patreon.  Even if you watch all your videos on YT, think about how many ads you have to sit through or try to skip.  I've noticed ads are more frequent and last much, much longer than previous years.  The time you spend trying to sample and watch content takes up more of your time.  Ask yourself what that time is worth compared to a few subscriptions.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.  When people first cut the cable and stop paying for Cable TV, they normally are amazed at  how much content is around they don't have to pay for.

For example, if you like certain primetime shows on CBS, you can access them online or through a streaming device (e.g. fireTv) for free.  There are limitations, such as needing to wait a week for the most recent episode to be available, or missing out on an episode because you weren't able to watch it before they took it down -- usually a month or more.  Plus you have to watch all the same commercials they inserted at air time, whereas subscribers don't get commercials -- at least not the Paramount+ service.

ABC and other networks also show programs on services like HULU.  So if you already have HULU, HBOMax, Roku, Amazon Prime, or any other streaming service, periodically check what they have to offer.  Usually you can find free movies, TV series episodes and/or other programming for free.

The real answer comes down to what you like to watch, and how many hours a day can you spend watching.  After I canceled Time Warner cable years ago, I've spent way less on subscriptions than on the cable bill, and I have more choices than I can ever watch.  And when that one event or program comes around you just can't miss, sometimes you can wait until the end of the season and binge watch the whole thing with a free trial for whatever network or service is hosting it.  Just be sure to cancel before the trial ends.

 :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

RSN172



Some people refuse to pay for content on platforms like Patreon.  Even if you watch all your videos on YT, think about how many ads you have to sit through or try to skip.  I've noticed ads are more frequent and last much, much longer than previous years.  The time you spend trying to sample and watch content takes up more of your time.  Ask yourself what that time is worth compared to a few subscriptions.


I have YouTube premium which eliminates all ads.  I got it mainly to download music
to my phone to Bluetooth to my car stereo.  Also once downloaded,  it doesn’t need internet
access or use any data to play.  Downloading is extremely easy and fast.
Happily living in Puna

zippz

I use YouTube premium to download videos and listen to them when I don't have cell service and to download on wifi to save data on my plan.  And skipping commercials.  It's worth it for me.  Content creators also get paid more for my view.

Rethinking my subscription because of this fiasco though.

changemyoil66

I hear others (not gun channels) mention Patreon.  I've never used it or visited it.  But apparently, you can also donate $ to them on there too.

Some gambling channels on YT also mention "thank to my Patreon donors (enter name)".

zippz

That depends on what types of content or content providers you consume most often.

Many times, the same content is available on the provider's podcast, which means audio only.

Sorry meant more for gun channels.  I use Spotify for podcasts for gun stuff...the reload, trex, gun talk, Weems.  I heard there's some stuff on Rumble but nothing anywhere close to YouTube.  X would be a choice but it's not refined for videos like YouTube.

I noticed a lot of YouTube gun channels are pouring out more videos nowadays I assume to makeup for revenue declines.  Quality in the videos and topics have been decreasing.  Like Armed Scholar and Guns and Gadgets repeat the same stuff or sensationalize minor stuff or even go into non gun stuff like immigration.

Lots of sponsorships everywhere too, not sure it's to try and make up lost revenue or if it's just easy money to add on for a publisher.  For video games, hazardous site cleanup, etc which may be related to the ban.

drck1000

I follow a couple GunTubers on Patreon.  A few have gone almost exclusively on Patreon, with some of the videos going on YT maybe 3-4 months later.  Sage Dynamics is one and he also has 3 levels of packages, where main difference is access to "learning academy" videos and other access. 

I've had some on Rumble and a few other platforms.  For BJJ, there's this one company that sells instructionals and the founders get big bucks nowadays.  So if there are folks willing to startup stuff, there is huge potential. 

changemyoil66

I follow a couple GunTubers on Patreon.  A few have gone almost exclusively on Patreon, with some of the videos going on YT maybe 3-4 months later.  Sage Dynamics is one and he also has 3 levels of packages, where main difference is access to "learning academy" videos and other access. 

I've had some on Rumble and a few other platforms.  For BJJ, there's this one company that sells instructionals and the founders get big bucks nowadays.  So if there are folks willing to startup stuff, there is huge potential.

Does Patreon charge?

drck1000

Does Patreon charge?
Depends on the individual/group.  The ones I follow have levels of paid subscriptions.  I've seen some that have free content, but seems like most have that as "free trials" to get YT followers to come over and then subscribe.  Which is fine for me. 

Flapp_Jackson

Depends on the individual/group.  The ones I follow have levels of paid subscriptions.  I've seen some that have free content, but seems like most have that as "free trials" to get YT followers to come over and then subscribe.  Which is fine for me.

Correct.  Prices are set by the creator.

Here's an Example:  The Charismatic Voice

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Don't forget about Trump's website:  Truth Social.

It's free!

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rpoL98

What are the alternatives to YT?
I'm thinking it's Rumble, which AFAIK is free, advertising revenue driven.

but they're very primitive, rudimentary, compared to the whiz-bang features we've gotten used to on YouTube.

maybe if the content providers start the real migration, and the view-count goes up, advertising revenue increases, they can then hire the whiz-bang code writers to beef up the features, search capabilities.

otherwise, it's paid subscription-driven Patreon.

IMHO.

Flapp_Jackson

I'm thinking it's Rumble, which AFAIK is free, advertising revenue driven.

but they're very primitive, rudimentary, compared to the whiz-bang features we've gotten used to on YouTube.

maybe if the content providers start the real migration, and the view-count goes up, advertising revenue increases, they can then hire the whiz-bang code writers to beef up the features, search capabilities.

otherwise, it's paid subscription-driven Patreon.

IMHO.

Based on the new Google rules, it's likely quite a few 2A creators will be migrating out of necessity.

if it were me, I'd find other creators and all migrate to the same platform/s while totally abandoning YT.  Many Millions of views leaving YT would be a big hit to the bottom line.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

UPDATE


The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rpoL98

GunTubers need to just bite the bullet and move on from YouTube.  Get on with it.  Get it over with.  Take the pain.

Google Inc is just stringing them along, death by a thousand cuts.  little by little, such as "we have to be more careful because of the new guidelines", well, news flash, those new guidelines will be revised, each time more restrictive, over and over again.  If they can't see that,  :wacko:   It's the Karl Rhoads method.

one day, Google will mandate that they devote 20% of the video to gun control messages.  and what, they will comply with that, because of the "new guidelines"?

this sucking of the teat of monetization is blinding them from seeing the inevitable.  it's time to move on from YouTube.  Take it to Rumble (or whatever), all of it.  This is just stupid how they're clinging to the enemy platform, blinded by monetization.  They don't want to see it.

it's depressing to watch this happening in slo-mo.

just my opinion.

/rant