is it the law, that if somebody is shot or "made dead", that the person allegedly the shooter, must be arrested and booked on murder charges?  Is this one of those Karl Rhoads things?  lawfare?

It's more of a policy than a law.

Every police chief since I've been living here has come out as the most anti-gun people you could ever imagine.  in their minds, anyone who shoots someone and doesn't have a badge is a criminal -- period.

Case in point is former Chief Ballard:

"Whether you're in the right or you're wrong, you're still going to have to go
through the legal system, you're going to have to go through all this," Ballard
said. "It's going to be a toll on your family, it's going to be a financial toll. Is it
worth it?"

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=35916.msg318269#msg318269

Looks like if someone came to my home and started shooting at me or my family, I am going to be arrested.

No sense calling 911.  Average response time to where I live in Puna is 30-45 minutes.

not enough honking
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/09/06/attempted-murder-under-investigation-makaka/

HPD has launched two attempted murder investigations in West Oahu within the last 24 hours — both scenes just mere miles from each other.

The latest incident happened around 2 a.m. near the north end of Maili Beach Park.

EMS said the 41-year-old man suffered an apparent gunshot wound to the middle of his body.

According to HPD, the victim was shot multiple times and was rushed to a nearby hospital in serious condition.

The suspect fled the scene and remains at large, authorities said.

The investigation is currently underway.

Meanwhile, the second attempted murder case happened hours earlier, around 6 p.m. Thursday.

Officers responded to the Makaha Gateway Shopping Center off Farrington Highway initially for an aggravated assault.

Chief Ballard was saying be like sheep.  Because LE and Hawaii's justice system is hell bent on definitely making it not worth it.

They want all of us to be sheep.

Not sheepdogs.

not enough honking
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/09/06/attempted-murder-under-investigation-makaka/

HPD has launched two attempted murder investigations in West Oahu within the last 24 hours — both scenes just mere miles from each other.

The latest incident happened around 2 a.m. near the north end of Maili Beach Park.

EMS said the 41-year-old man suffered an apparent gunshot wound to the middle of his body.

According to HPD, the victim was shot multiple times and was rushed to a nearby hospital in serious condition.

The suspect fled the scene and remains at large, authorities said.

The investigation is currently underway.

Meanwhile, the second attempted murder case happened hours earlier, around 6 p.m. Thursday.

Officers responded to the Makaha Gateway Shopping Center off Farrington Highway initially for an aggravated assault.

West Side going for one medal or what??!!

MOAR honking needed!

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/09/07/woman-29-treated-multiple-injuries-after-apparent-assault-maili/

They have a different take on the shooting.  I guess it's true from a certain point of view.



https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/oahu-hawaii-murder-suicide-6-people-shot-at-home-in-waianae-article-112974057

I actually looked at the "TimesNowNews" link above. 
Who or what is "TimesNowNews"
It's just a "content-driven" word scramble with spelling and grammatical errors.
Here is the bio of the author....he watches true crime documentaries and reads mystery books. 
I got stuff in my refrigerator with more journalistic experience than the author.
=================
Arkaprovo Roy is a content writer and editor with over 4 years of experience in content-driven jobs. He has worked with multiple reputed companies like Radio Mirchi, Sportskeeda and Times Now and held various designations. Arkaprovo is interested in researching uncommon topics, ready mystery-thrillers, composing music and watching true crime documentaries.

Looks like a website for leftwing journalists and social media to reference from a left wing slant.  It took MDA almost a week to report the incident and looks like they were waiting for article that doesn't say good guy with a gun stopped it.  If someone calls them out for misinformation, then MDA can blame the article for being wrong.

I actually looked at the "TimesNowNews" link above. 
Who or what is "TimesNowNews"
It's just a "content-driven" word scramble with spelling and grammatical errors.
Here is the bio of the author....he watches true crime documentaries and reads mystery books. 
I got stuff in my refrigerator with more journalistic experience than the author.
=================
Arkaprovo Roy is a content writer and editor with over 4 years of experience in content-driven jobs. He has worked with multiple reputed companies like Radio Mirchi, Sportskeeda and Times Now and held various designations. Arkaprovo is interested in researching uncommon topics, ready mystery-thrillers, composing music and watching true crime documentaries.

They shouldn't group this self-defense incident with the other violent gun crimes.

But they will.

To them, even buying and owning a firearm legally is a crime.

They shouldn't group this self-defense incident with the other violent gun crimes.

But they will.

To them, even buying and owning a firearm legally is a crime.

Wouldn't this belong with other firearm-related murders as well as "good guy with a gun"?

Seems like it started as a mass murder but was ended as a DUG.

West Side going for one medal or what??!!

They trying to take the title of Wild Wild West from Puna.

They are now what I consider a serious contender.

Couple more incidents and I would declare West Oahu the winner.

Wouldn't this belong with other firearm-related murders as well as "good guy with a gun"?

Seems like it started as a mass murder but was ended as a DUG.

....
What is dug supposed to mean?

....
What is dug supposed to mean?

FBI original term DUG: Defensive Use of Gun

CDC term DGU:  Defensive Gun Use

It looks like DGU is now the standard term for self-defense using a gun.

Either way ... same-same.

WTF Issues?  I read this as they wanted to prosecute him but were disappointed they can't


Shooter who ended Waianae rampage won’t be charged

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2024/09/19/hawaii-news/shooter-who-ended-waianae-rampage-wont-be-charged/

“This case was conferred with the Department of the Prosecuting Attorney and on Wednesday, September 18, 2024, it was declined due to issues related to self-defense and defense of others,” read an update to a Honolulu Police Department highlight.

WTF Issues?  I read this as they wanted to prosecute him but were disappointed they can't


Shooter who ended Waianae rampage won’t be charged

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2024/09/19/hawaii-news/shooter-who-ended-waianae-rampage-wont-be-charged/

“This case was conferred with the Department of the Prosecuting Attorney and on Wednesday, September 18, 2024, it was declined due to issues related to self-defense and defense of others,” read an update to a Honolulu Police Department highlight.

The "issue" is that he used lawful self defense.

They tried and now they mad because they cannot charge the man for anything.  Dey piss off.

Issues?  I think Hawaii's leadership has the serious issues.

WTF Issues?  I read this as they wanted to prosecute him but were disappointed they can't


Shooter who ended Waianae rampage won’t be charged

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2024/09/19/hawaii-news/shooter-who-ended-waianae-rampage-wont-be-charged/

“This case was conferred with the Department of the Prosecuting Attorney and on Wednesday, September 18, 2024, it was declined due to issues related to self-defense and defense of others,” read an update to a Honolulu Police Department highlight.

What made you think they were disappointed? Is it something other than the quoted section? (I don't have a subscription to the webpage.)

When I read the quoted sentence I don't get any impression of disappointment. The language used is pretty neutral.

What made you think they were disappointed? Is it something other than the quoted section? (I don't have a subscription to the webpage.)

When I read the quoted sentence I don't get any impression of disappointment. The language used is pretty neutral.

Swooossshhh and not even in a funny way.