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Brystont1

Re: Port Strike
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2024, 01:15:26 PM »
If you have to hold the nation hostage to prevent your job from being overtaken by automation, maybe your not as valuable as you think you are.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Port Strike
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2024, 01:35:42 PM »
Quote from: Brystont1 on October 09, 2024, 01:15:26 PM
If you have to hold the nation hostage to prevent your job from being overtaken by automation, maybe your not as valuable as you think you are.

Maybe they should give union members classes on installation, operation and maintenance of automated systems.

Automated is not the same as automatic.  There's still a number of humans in the process to input, monitor and troubleshoot problems.  That requires people with experience doing the loading and offloading prior to automation.

You keep your job by acquiring skills and experiences that are in demand.  If automation is being implemented, then your skillset need to adapt to it.

Businesses do not exist to provide people with jobs.  Jobs exist because they want to make money.  Most businesses need labor -- the kind they decide they need.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Port Strike
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2024, 03:24:29 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on October 09, 2024, 01:35:42 PM
Maybe they should give union members classes on installation, operation and maintenance of automated systems.

Automated is not the same as automatic.  There's still a number of humans in the process to input, monitor and troubleshoot problems.  That requires people with experience doing the loading and offloading prior to automation.

You keep your job by acquiring skills and experiences that are in demand.  If automation is being implemented, then your skillset need to adapt to it.

Businesses do not exist to provide people with jobs.  Jobs exist because they want to make money.  Most businesses need labor -- the kind they decide they need.

Workers compensation does the same. Know a construction worker who got her and can no longer work construction. They paid for schooling so he does medical coding now.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Port Strike
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2024, 04:37:17 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on October 09, 2024, 03:24:29 PM
Workers compensation does the same. Know a construction worker who got her and can no longer work construction. They paid for schooling so he does medical coding now.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Port Strike
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2024, 10:36:23 AM »
With regard to my automation and Porsche post.

THere are still jobs that a machine cannot do and I don't see even years from now being able to do, like:

Install hoses
Connect wiring harnesses behind the dash
Install a piston and rod and piston rings

The VW factor in China still uses a human aided by a machine to place car seats in the frame. But others use 100% machine to do the same. Even putting a tire on a rim is 100% machine in the VW factory in China.

What would cause the stevadors harm is the tech overseas being developed.
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