“ > 2200 fps velocity is when human tissue cannot stretch anymore and begins to tear”

“The extra energy of 44 mag only
makes a larger temp wound channel”

“Speed doesn’t matter” (handgun)

“Caliber doesn’t matter” (handgun)

Dang….i just bought a G20….

(I guess all those Alaskan hunting guides never saw this video)



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6kUvi72s0Y&pp=QAFIAQ%3D%3D

Plus carrying a DEagle sucks.

“ > 2200 fps velocity is when human tissue cannot stretch anymore and begins to tear”



(I guess all those Alaskan hunting guides never saw this video)



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6kUvi72s0Y&pp=QAFIAQ%3D%3D

Is the video suggesting that lower calibers are enough for the Alaskan hunting guides to carry?  That would be a hard sell.  I think they would rather practice to the point where they can accurately place those large calibers where it needs to go.

They are not carrying these calibers primarily for self-defense from humans.

9mm or 44mag. either way the guy is dead. but with the 44mag he is deader 

depends what the purpose is for the gun. I wouldn't conceal carry a 44mag bc its too big to conceal and if I do fire it in self defense, I'll be deaf.  if I were in bear country, I wouldn't carry a 9mm

I recently set my friend up with some practice ammo for his Ruger Kodiak. He was going to Colorado, I think. This was bear insurance.
Another friend favored Linebaugh 45 colt or the 500 Linebaugh.
...kind of unpleasant to shoot for recreational use.

Quiet,
From the video….and extrapolating it from humans to bears….it would seem to say 10mm and 44 magnum don’t have enough speed (energy?) to tear tissue to cause a large perm wound channel.

I wonder about the really hard hitting stuff like 454 casull and up…..maybe they might not have the 2200fps but they might have enough energy to cause tearing (newtons law of physics….something slows down….something else speeds up….possibly enough to tear tissue)

Anywho, besides wasting 600 on a Glock 20 and 300 on 10 ammo.   I also now understand my pistol caliber carbines are basically a waste of money because they basically suck.   

Oh well, at least I saw the video and now will drop the idea of later getting a 45acp pistol, a 357 revolver and a 357 lever action

Will probably later downsize just to 9mm pistols, 556 AR rifles and 12 ga shotguns

10mm is pretty hot stuff in its original form.
A fellow forum member sent me pics of some big pua'a taken with a 10mm
I can post if you like.
I would not feel undergunned with a 10mm in bear country, but then again, I've never been in bear country. LOL.

Shooting a pig that stand still while feeding …..from a blind …..that is bit different from accidentally meeting a charging bear

I want to go backpacking in Alaska so I got a Glock 40 10mm. Need to get the full power heavy bullets like Buffalo Bore or Underwood.  The 200gr bullets that go 1200fps.

Shotgun with slugs is better.  I saw a chart of calibers and bear attack stats and 9mm appears to work well.  Maybe the sound and wounding are enough to turn a bear away most of the time.  Bear spray supposedly works well too.

“ > 2200 fps velocity is when human tissue cannot stretch anymore and begins to tear”

“The extra energy of 44 mag only
makes a larger temp wound channel”

“Speed doesn’t matter” (handgun)

“Caliber doesn’t matter” (handgun)

Dang….i just bought a G20….

(I guess all those Alaskan hunting guides never saw this video)



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6kUvi72s0Y&pp=QAFIAQ%3D%3D

Ill be sure to remember this next time I get attacked by a block of gelatin. 

U guys all panties. Rambo knife and Rambo style kill.

Change oil  - stop it.  Not all of us are like Roland from Alone and hunt musk ox with a knife

Zippz - I forgot which video….probably from lucky gunner….something about 10mm not making enough of a difference for FBI to stay with it…..and went to 40sw

Sounds like FBI eventually realized modern 40sw wasn’t that much better than modern 9mm and went to 9mm

Seems like agencies now accept handgun calibers aren’t that great ….so it seems like they are fine with a caliber that is easier to shoot well. 

Who knows…maybe 380 is the future for agencies if a good bullet can be designed for it.

I want to try my 22tcm conversion barrel.  2000fps and minimal recoil.  Zips thru soft armor

U guys all panties. Rambo knife and Rambo style kill.

mission...accomplished...

Harry Callahan wouldn't be Dirty Harry if he carried a 9mm semiauto

"This is a 9mm Parabellum, the world's most average handgun. It won't blow your head clean off, but with the proper defensive ammunition it will produce sufficient penetration and expansion to disrupt....wait... where are you going?"

"This is a 9mm Parabellum, the world's most average handgun. It won't blow your head clean off, but with the proper defensive ammunition it will produce sufficient penetration and expansion to disrupt....wait... where are you going?"

...

...

"This is my gun.  It can blow your head clean off.  So you've got to ask yourself:  'do I feel lucky'?  Well, do you punk?"

"Because you see, as I mentioned, this is MY gun.  All you pukes don't have any.  I took them away."

Hyena cackles and cackles and slowly fades away.......

The possible future of 2a after Nov. 5th.

Don't forget to vote, everybody.

I think " significantly better" is subjective. What is it better at? If you want to dispense of someone, both are effective and will accomplish the goal equally. If you want that person to crap themselves first, then the 6" barrel 44 mag revolver will be significantly better than the compact Glock 19.