Election Fraud 2024 Thread (Read 10983 times)

Jl808

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #100 on: November 13, 2024, 05:17:14 AM »
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oldfart

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #101 on: November 13, 2024, 05:57:20 AM »
What's with the 330am business?
Very odd. About 40something years ago, I had to work the midnight shift.

About 3 to 4am I "hit a wall" every night.
I would get very tired and sleepy. Other guys experienced the same thing.
As it got closer to 5am, I would perk up naturally.
What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #102 on: November 13, 2024, 07:05:50 AM »








If we don't remain vigilant these phantom "people" will rise up again (from the dead? :rofl:) to haunt us in 2028.

Too many people watching in 2024. 

Fool me once, shame on me.

Try to fool me twice, beware the RED WAVE.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

astroboy

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #103 on: November 13, 2024, 07:55:01 AM »
Soon after Trump won the election, the bad people of the world stated that they wanted to cut a
deal with him. From the Houthi's, Iran, Putin, etc.. it all kinda reminds me of what Sadam Hussein
told the US soldiers when they found him in the spider hole: " I am Sadam Hussein. Let's make a deal ".

Today Trump will be meeting with Biden in the White House. We can expect Joe to make a
similar plea. I would love to be a fly on the wall in that meeting. Will Joe spill his guts on how Trump
was cheated/attacked?
« Last Edit: November 13, 2024, 08:04:03 AM by astroboy »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #104 on: November 13, 2024, 11:12:53 AM »
Soon after Trump won the election, the bad people of the world stated that they wanted to cut a
deal with him. From the Houthi's, Iran, Putin, etc.. it all kinda reminds me of what Sadam Hussein
told the US soldiers when they found him in the spider hole: " I am Sadam Hussein. Let's make a deal ".

Today Trump will be meeting with Biden in the White House. We can expect Joe to make a
similar plea. I would love to be a fly on the wall in that meeting. Will Joe spill his guts on how Trump
was cheated/attacked?

Hunter just this week entered a Not Guilty plea in his tax evasion trial.  He already plead Guilty in the felony gun possession trial.

Any bets on Biden pardoning his son on his last day in office?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #105 on: November 13, 2024, 12:19:15 PM »
Hunter just this week entered a Not Guilty plea in his tax evasion trial.  He already plead Guilty in the felony gun possession trial.

Any bets on Biden pardoning his son on his last day in office?

If Brandon was going to pardon, then wouldn't hunter plea guilty to the tax evasion? Hurry get it done and have dad pardon.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #106 on: November 13, 2024, 12:40:45 PM »
If Brandon was going to pardon, then wouldn't hunter plea guilty to the tax evasion? Hurry get it done and have dad pardon.

I think I may have read an older article and mistook the timing to be this month.  He plead Not Guilty in June or July, but changed it to Guilty in September.  Sentencing is set for Dec 16.

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On December 16, Biden will be sentenced on federal tax-related charges in
Los Angeles after pleading guilty in September and avoiding a trial.

And to make things more mirky, Trump said in a radio interview that pardoning Hunter if he's re-elected is not off the table.
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Former President Donald Trump has long criticized both Hunter and President Joe Biden
but recently told the radio host Hugh Hewitt that he hasn't sworn off pardoning Hunter if
he were to win the 2024 presidential election.

"I wouldn't take it off the books," Trump told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt in an
interview. "See, unlike Joe Biden, despite what they've done to me, where they've gone
after me so viciously ... And Hunter's a bad boy."

"There's no question about it. He's been a bad boy," Trump added. "But I happen to think
it's very bad for our country."
https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-sentencing-gun-tax-evasion-charges-1976859

I think unless Biden and Trump have an agreement to have Hunter pardoned under Trump's presidency to avoid accusations of nepotism, Biden will do it himself as a final act in office regardless of his comments to the contrary.  In the end, I think Hunter gets pardoned.

It's funny and ironic.  If Hunter is pardoned, it reenforces the two-tier justice system theory/reality.  If Biden claims to respect the judges' and juries' decisions, shouldn't Trump respect it as well?  Hunter wasn't targeted out of political malice unlike Trump himself.  He broke some serious laws and needs to be held accountable just like every other person in the US. 

What has Hunter contributed to the country other than helping to send a few strippers and drug dealers to college?  He's probably done more for Ukraine and China than the US!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #107 on: November 13, 2024, 12:54:30 PM »
biden:  Hey, I helped you by throwing kamala under the bus......

Trump:  Ok.  I'll pardon Hunter.......

Truthfully I feel that presidential pardons should be granted to those who have been incarcerated unlawfully or if new evidence shows they are innocent.

If you have been proven guilty, you should serve your time.

In my opinion that is what presidential pardons should be used for.

The American people must be sick of what's going on with presidential pardons.

Or maybe I just don't know enough about it to understand it.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #108 on: November 13, 2024, 01:05:36 PM »
biden:  Hey, I helped you by throwing kamala under the bus......

Trump:  Ok.  I'll pardon Hunter.......

Truthfully I feel that presidential pardons should be granted to those who have been incarcerated unlawfully or if new evidence shows they are innocent.

If you have been proven guilty, you should serve your time.

In my opinion that is what presidential pardons should be used for.

The American people must be sick of what's going on with presidential pardons.

Or maybe I just don't know enough about it to understand it.

Trump pardoned a bunch of black prisoners who were serving longer sentences for drug crimes than others served for manslaughter or murder.

Some pardons are intended to add balance into the justice system where the system tends to be biased or unreasonable in its application.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #109 on: November 13, 2024, 01:42:01 PM »
I think I may have read an older article and mistook the timing to be this month.  He plead Not Guilty in June or July, but changed it to Guilty in September.  Sentencing is set for Dec 16.

And to make things more mirky, Trump said in a radio interview that pardoning Hunter if he's re-elected is not off the table.https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-sentencing-gun-tax-evasion-charges-1976859

I think unless Biden and Trump have an agreement to have Hunter pardoned under Trump's presidency to avoid accusations of nepotism, Biden will do it himself as a final act in office regardless of his comments to the contrary.  In the end, I think Hunter gets pardoned.

It's funny and ironic.  If Hunter is pardoned, it reenforces the two-tier justice system theory/reality.  If Biden claims to respect the judges' and juries' decisions, shouldn't Trump respect it as well?  Hunter wasn't targeted out of political malice unlike Trump himself.  He broke some serious laws and needs to be held accountable just like every other person in the US. 

What has Hunter contributed to the country other than helping to send a few strippers and drug dealers to college?  He's probably done more for Ukraine and China than the US!

I hope he doesn't pardon Hunter (Trump) if he's allowed to.  They screwed Trump every day since 2016.  But then maybe Trump is being diplomatic about it and pardoning a former POTUS kid is part of this. "Professional courtesy". 

rpoL98

« Last Edit: November 15, 2024, 07:26:27 PM by rpoL98 »

astroboy

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #111 on: November 13, 2024, 02:58:37 PM »
It would be interesting to see if Joe will try to make a deal with the man who
wrote the book on The Art of the Deal.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #112 on: November 15, 2024, 05:32:43 PM »
PA admits to violating their own state election laws, but they don't care since it helps the Democrat Senate candidate's chances of winning over the present Republican leader in the race.

BTW, that Senate race has already been called for the GOP candidate, McCormick, but the margin of victory was less than 0.5%, so a recount was automatically triggered.  This is why the decision to count illegal ballots that do not meet the legal standards set in the state's statutes is so important.  You don't do a recount by introducing more ballots.  A recount by definition counts the same ballots from the first count. 

They are asking for a new count under new rules, not a recount.  We went through a month or more of this Democrat recount BS in 2000 until the Supreme Court finally shut it down and said the original counts stand.  I suspect this might end the same way, wasting any chance the Democrats had that a fair and proper recount might have helped them.

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Diane Ellis-Marseglia, one of the Democrats on the Bucks County board, voted
to count the ballots, saying that "if I violate this law, it's because I want a court
to pay attention to it."
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Republicans went to court in Pennsylvania on Thursday to challenge the counting
of undated or incorrectly dated mail-in ballots as votes are still being counted in
the Senate race between Democratic incumbent Bob Casey and Republican
David McCormick.

The lawsuits from the national and Pennsylvania Republican parties are asking
the state Supreme Court to not allow Pennsylvania's counties to count mail-in
ballots where the voter didn't write a date on the return envelope, as is required
by law, or wrote an incorrect date.

The motion "to ensure that Pennsylvania's democratic process is not undermined
by the inclusion of illegal ballots in the final vote count," Republication National
Chair Chairman Michael Whatley said in a statement.

A lower court in Pennsylvania ruled that disqualifying ballots without handwritten
dates on return envelopes is unconstitutional. But the Pennsylvania Supreme Court
on November 1 granted a request from the GOP to block that decision from taking
effect.

They lost, so now the only way to cheat is in broad daylight -- because they don't like losing.

Democrats ADMIT To Illegal Ballot Counting To
STEAL PA Election w/Maureen Bannon | Timcast IRL


https://www.youtube.com/live/tPCMCUtKAM0
« Last Edit: November 15, 2024, 05:46:13 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rpoL98

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #113 on: November 15, 2024, 07:38:45 PM »
I guess they got that Spirit of Aloha also, in Buck County, PA.

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Diane Ellis-Marseglia, one of the Democrats, admitted she knew it was against the law, but voted to count the ballots anyway.

“I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn’t matter anymore in this country. And people violate laws anytime they want,” she said. “For me if I violate this law, it’s because I want a court to pay attention to it.”

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #114 on: November 15, 2024, 07:49:56 PM »
I guess they got that Spirit of Aloha also, in Buck County, PA.

Seems to be a common theme among Democrats.  Rules for thee, but not for me.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #115 on: November 15, 2024, 07:59:33 PM »
And we let them get away with it...then it becomes broken windows....
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #116 on: November 18, 2024, 03:32:34 PM »
So, it's happening. 

Democrats are violating the law & a court order in an attempt to steal an election for the US Senate.

This is not a fight over mail-in ballots in general, but rather a fight over whether or not the people who swore to uphold the law must follow it.

There's an estimated time to complete the recount and announce the winner of the race by Nov 27.  Math tells me that's 22 days, or 3 weeks & a day, after the election.

They aren't hiding it like they tried to do in 2020.. Now they brag about cheating on video and dare anyone to stop them.


Pennsylvania Democrats openly admit to counting illegal ballots


The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #117 on: November 18, 2024, 04:10:57 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pennsylvania-supreme-court-throws-out-votes-as-senate-recount-begins/ar-AA1ujVjL?ocid=BingNewsVerp

So, it's happening. 

Democrats are violating the law & a court order in an attempt to steal an election for the US Senate.

This is not a fight over mail-in ballots in general, but rather a fight over whether or not the people who swore to uphold the law must follow it.

There's an estimated time to complete the recount and announce the winner of the race by Nov 27.  Math tells me that's 22 days, or 3 weeks & a day, after the election.

They aren't hiding it like they tried to do in 2020.. Now they brag about cheating on video and dare anyone to stop them.


Pennsylvania Democrats openly admit to counting illegal ballots



Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #118 on: November 18, 2024, 06:22:43 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pennsylvania-supreme-court-throws-out-votes-as-senate-recount-begins/ar-AA1ujVjL?ocid=BingNewsVerp

These people want to defend Democracy, and then they openly defy the rule of law.  This is one big reason they lost the election.

A second State Supreme court ruling is reassuring, but it's no different than the first one.

Election officials from 4 counties openly defied the first ruling.  So, the question is, who is going to enforce this second State Supreme Court ruling for the recount?

"Precedent by a Court doesn't matter anymore in this country, and people
violate laws anytime they want.  So for me, if I violate this law, it's because
I want a court to pay attention to it."


Sounds like she's applying the Aloha Principle which means courts have no place in deciding what laws are to be followed.

This is a very dangerous game, especially when some challenges can work their way through the court system for years.  By then, the damage has been done.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2024, 01:31:25 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud 2024 Thread
« Reply #119 on: November 19, 2024, 12:55:45 PM »
Three times a charm?

PA Supreme Court has now issued a 3rd court order.

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All county boards of elections, including Bucks, Montgomery and
Philadelphia, were told they “shall comply with the prior rulings of
this Court in which we have clarified that mail-in and absentee ballots
that fail to comply with the requirements of Pennsylvania Election
Code ... shall not be counted for purposes of the election held on
November 5, 2024.”
Quote
“I write separately to disabuse local election officials of the notion
that they have the authority to ignore Election Code provisions that
they believe are unconstitutional,” wrote Justice Kevin Brobson in
an opinion concurring with the majority. He was joined by Justices
Sallie Mundy and David Wecht.

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro issued a statement to The New York
Times, saying he expects election officials to follow the court’s ruling.

“The Department of State had advised counties repeatedly of their
duty to segregate challenged provisional ballots and undated ballots
in anticipation of a ruling by the court,” Shapiro said. “The court has
now ruled on the counting of these ballots specific to the Nov. 5, 2024,
election, and I expect all county election officials to adhere to this
ruling and all the applicable laws governing our elections.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pennsylvania-top-court-says-illegal-162711530.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=ma

So, if the counties saying they will not comply have already started their recount, and they mingled the illegal ballots in with the original ballots, i think the state should do one of two things:  (1) exclude those counties' ballots from the recount and only use their original totals, or (2) stop the recount completely and certify the results already tallied.

In addition, every person in those counties which violated the law should be arrested and receive the most severe criminal charges possible with no offers of plea deals.  They've already had 3 chances to avoid legal consequences after being told they were violating state election law. 

Hypothetically, every single illegal ballot they would have counted represents another voter being disenfranchised.  if you accept the vote of someone who did not submit a legal ballot, you are in turn canceling out the vote from someone who submitted a legal ballot but voted for the other candidate.  That is election interference and a direct attack on democracy under the guise of "counting every vote."  How about we just count every LEGAL vote, and quit acting like the process is too hard for all voters to get it right?  It's not that hard to write the date.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw