AR 80% receivers (Read 12261 times)

Gordyf

AR 80% receivers
« on: January 01, 2013, 02:53:10 PM »
I guess that I have been living under a rock as I just ran across the existence of the 80% AR lower.
Wish I had discovered this sooner as I have been laid up for about three months due to a work accident.
Something like this would have helped pass the time
Has anyone out there done one of these?? It seems quite doable. I have the tools and probably the talent.
Perhaps there is a set of jigs sitting in somebody's workbench drawer that they may want to sell having built theirs?
Of course all the parts are out of stock now, but it won't last forever. I think I'd like to try it. looks like fun.
I guess the a similar set exists to do an AK, but I am just not into them. An old 60's type AR with the triangle stock would be cool
Thoughts???
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buckjay

Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2013, 02:58:47 PM »
I've been meaning to do one or two myself but I haven't found a CNC mill. I know this would be a piece of piss with a mill. A lot of people are doing them with a drill press and a set of jigs but if I did one I'd want it to look perfect.

I think the best thing to do would get a bunch of guys together and do a group buy to get the price down and then book a CNC mill for a day and make it a party while we knock 'em out.

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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2013, 03:00:26 PM »
I've been meaning to do one or two myself but I haven't found a CNC mill. I know this would be a piece of piss with a mill. A lot of people are doing them with a drill press and a set of jigs but if I did one I'd want it to look perfect.

I think the best thing to do would get a bunch of guys together and do a group buy to get the price down and then book a CNC mill for a day and make it a party while we knock 'em out.
They do those in California fairly often, I think.  There's gotta be a machine shop on island with a CNC machine, isn't there?
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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2013, 03:15:35 PM »
You cannot hire a machine shop to complete it. You have to do it yourself. I have made a few of these. The only problem is you cannot sell them or legally transfer completed recievers. In cali they have a shop that will loan you the equipment for a fee and you just have to press a button to start the cnc. But of course the atf is looking into this. Or they have build parties. I have a manual mill that i did mine on. Takes about 8 hours to complete a 80%.  Cnc takes about 2 hours.

If x-ring completes it then it can be serial numbered and you can transfer it.

My mini cnc should be here soon so i can engrave the lowers with the markings and other logos.
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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2013, 04:09:13 PM »
80% projects are a fun challenge, it becomes more of an "I did it" when it turns out and fires.

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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2013, 04:37:44 PM »
You cannot hire a machine shop to complete it. You have to do it yourself. I have made a few of these. The only problem is you cannot sell them or legally transfer completed recievers. In cali they have a shop that will loan you the equipment for a fee and you just have to press a button to start the cnc. But of course the atf is looking into this. Or they have build parties. I have a manual mill that i did mine on. Takes about 8 hours to complete a 80%.  Cnc takes about 2 hours.

If x-ring completes it then it can be serial numbered and you can transfer it.

My mini cnc should be here soon so i can engrave the lowers with the markings and other logos.

No one said anything about hiring someone to complete it. I also don't think anyone has plans to transfer it. For me the biggest (and only benefit) of completing an 80% lower is the fact you don't have to bother with registration.

Gordyf

Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 05:31:10 PM »
Found one for sale on ebay. Bids up to $350!!!!
YIPES!    Don't need a project that bad.
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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2013, 06:07:50 PM »
I was under  the impression that once you finsh one is must be serialized and registed for it to be legal.

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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2013, 06:14:04 PM »
No one said anything about hiring someone to complete it. I also don't think anyone has plans to transfer it. For me the biggest (and only benefit) of completing an 80% lower is the fact you don't have to bother with registration.
You still have to register it.

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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2013, 06:15:14 PM »
Usually they will have you engrave your permit number on it. It cannot be resold or transferred.

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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2013, 06:37:48 PM »
If someone else completes it for you they are the manufacturer.

Once completed you have 5 days to serialize it and register it with hpd. Some other states have no reg. some require you to put a number on it. Like ssn.  Each state is different.

Best keep it on the side till SHTF. When registration is not an issue!

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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2013, 07:43:47 PM »
Got these 80%'s awhile ago, but i never did start on them. The camera didn't pick up the engraving well, but they look nice in person. I'm pretty sure the machining should be easy as long as you got the jig. I think the hardest part would be anodizing it properly.










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Re: AR 80% receivers
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Gordyf

Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2013, 10:16:27 AM »
Now you have gone and done it!
I won't be happy until I have tried it.
Good stuff!! Thanks
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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2013, 11:25:19 AM »
If you really want a challenge X-Ring just got these in. 30%

Should have some 80% Black Anodized next week

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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2013, 02:38:55 PM »
If you really want a challenge X-Ring just got these in. 30%

Should have some 80% Black Anodized next week

Saw that today. A lille too much challenge. I know my limits ;)
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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2013, 04:54:29 PM »
If you really want a challenge X-Ring just got these in. 30%

Should have some 80% Black Anodized next week



So, when you get those 80% complete, how much $?

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AR 80% receivers
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2013, 09:14:02 PM »
If you really want a challenge X-Ring just got these in. 30%

Should have some 80% Black Anodized next week
oooooh.... do the 30% lowers come with a jig and plans?

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Re: AR 80% receivers
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2013, 04:35:48 AM »
From my internet reading, it sounds like anything less than 80% is a pain in the ass. The magwell is said to be the hardest part of the machining.
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AR 80% receivers
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2013, 12:11:02 PM »
From my internet reading, it sounds like anything less than 80% is a pain in the ass. The magwell is said to be the hardest part of the machining.
this is true. i'm a machinist and have access to cool stuff, but if i need to make a jig to hold a 30% lower straight... then i might as well make a 30% lower... lol