Wow
Someone at hsta has tds and everybody is covering for her/him.

90% of Hawaii people I know are ready to ditch left progressives. Yet we see the same being elected.  Either our election system in Hawaii is completely corrupt or the people are too lazy and complacent to get out and vote. 

I think it is the latter and it looks like change is on the horizon.

Teachers involved and the entire "appointed" DOE should be fired.No place in our schools for this sort of evil!!!

They did allow BLM protest on campus during school house with teachers monitoring (on the clock), so why not lean toward Harris?

If harris/walz wins tomorrow history will record Nov.5th 2024 as the day Democracy died.

True Democracy.  As our Republic was structured and envisioned by our forefathers.

Not this crap democrat democracy being touted lately.

Schools program the children to follow instead of teaching them to think and  reason. This is why so many bright young people leave. They need the freedom of mind they don't have here! I am 78 yrs old so I don't have children but can see the results of this failed education system.

If harris/walz wins tomorrow history will record Nov.5th 2024 as the day Democracy died.

True Democracy.  As our Republic was structured and envisioned by our forefathers.

Not this crap democrat democracy being touted lately.

It died a while ago.

Buren ruling being ignored with no penalties.
Jan 6 prisoners
DOJ weaponized against their political apponants
AFT going after civilians (Matt Hoover example)
Election fraud (see 2020 thread)
Lies in hearings (Kavanaugh hearing, Covid, illegal immigrants, etc...)

We have the illusion of "freedom" that we think we have. But with the above being said, the USA still has way more freedom than any other country.

Schools program the children to follow instead of teaching them to think and  reason. This is why so many bright young people leave. They need the freedom of mind they don't have here! I am 78 yrs old so I don't have children but can see the results of this failed education system.

"Common Core" implemented by Barry and Big Mike for the first time had students from K-12 use it. THey came out dumber than any prior years who learned math the regular way vs common core.

Schools program the children to follow instead of teaching them to think and  reason. This is why so many bright young people leave. They need the freedom of mind they don't have here! I am 78 yrs old so I don't have children but can see the results of this failed education system.

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My son took his family and moved to Nevada. One of his reasons was the educational system. I miss my grandchildren.

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My son took his family and moved to Nevada. One of his reasons was the educational system. I miss my grandchildren.

NV has 1 of the worst educational systems, even worst than HI. I found that hard to believe as I went to public school and had a whole bunch of dumbasses in my classes. 

After digging deeper on the issue in NV, it's 1 demographic that pulls down their average. Instead of not going to school at all, these kids go to class or go to class sometimes and get F or D's. Thus messing up NV's numbers.  So it's that much of a concern, unless your kid associates with this demographic.

It's the black demographic if anyone was wondering. They don't prioritize education in general compared to say asians.  Over here, since we don't have a lot of blacks in schools, Hawaii's equivalent would be the Micronesian demographic. Talk to any teacher, esp the elementary and middle school ones and they will tell you the same.  The parents don't push education on their kids.

What NV has that HI doesn't have is much more charter schools. I had no idea what a charter school was, so I had to look into that too.

There was an article last month that Clark County teachers had to stop giving homework due to not having the time to grade them. As in not enough budget allowed for it. But TBH, I never had any homework until I was in college, so IMO, this is no big deal. It's just which departments are stealing money from the budget is the bigger concern.  For some reason, HI teachers work way more hours for free. I knew a bunch who would grade papers at home all the time.

uhhhhhhhhh.......

NV has 1 of the worst educational systems, even worst than HI. I found that hard to believe as I went to public school and had a whole bunch of dumbasses in my classes. 

After digging deeper on the issue in NV, it's 1 demographic that pulls down their average. Instead of not going to school at all, these kids go to class or go to class sometimes and get F or D's. Thus messing up NV's numbers.  So it's that much of a concern, unless your kid associates with this demographic.

It's the black demographic if anyone was wondering. They don't prioritize education in general compared to say asians.  Over here, since we don't have a lot of blacks in schools, Hawaii's equivalent would be the Micronesian demographic. Talk to any teacher, esp the elementary and middle school ones and they will tell you the same.  The parents don't push education on their kids.

What NV has that HI doesn't have is much more charter schools. I had no idea what a charter school was, so I had to look into that too.

There was an article last month that Clark County teachers had to stop giving homework due to not having the time to grade them. As in not enough budget allowed for it. But TBH, I never had any homework until I was in college, so IMO, this is no big deal. It's just which departments are stealing money from the budget is the bigger concern.  For some reason, HI teachers work way more hours for free. I knew a bunch who would grade papers at home all the time.

I dunno.  When I was going HS my average nightly homework time was 4 hours.  Many times, longer.

Times have changed.  But I also gotta be honest, I don't think it made much of a difference in my case.

I dunno.  When I was going HS my average nightly homework time was 4 hours.  Many times, longer.

Times have changed.  But I also gotta be honest, I don't think it made much of a difference in my case.

I was an honor grad. But I had easy A classes like band, PE, art, etc...I also never took any AP classes, just the min required to get into UH which was algebra 2.  No trig required.

I knew that I was going to UH as my parents couldn't afford out of state college or wanted to apply for a student loan. So why take anything above what's required. UH is easy to get into as long as you get the SAT's as well. I played sports and did zero community service.  Compare this to my friend who took AP classes, did community service, played soft tennis so she can letter in something, and did extra stuff like student body, debate, national honor society, etc...only go go to UH. She didn't apply for other schools.

NV has 1 of the worst educational systems, even worst than HI. I found that hard to believe as I went to public school and had a whole bunch of dumbasses in my classes. 

After digging deeper on the issue i

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Not worried
Son told me he is raising little geniuses.
I'm pretty sure the babies are going to "better" schools and they can afford it since the cost of housing is about half of Hawaii.

Hawaii public school is a joke.  Every other week has days off.  This month alone has only 14 days of school.  FOR THE WHOLE MONTH.

I really don’t want to hear about teachers not getting enough pay.  Anyone else’s needs to GO TO WORK to get a paycheck. For the amount of actual time “teaching” I think their wage is not bad at all. 

It’s a no wonder, why the young ones coming to work now days are so damn lazy, call in constantly, want to “telework”, and generally whine about being at a great job.  They’ve been trained to go do “work” for only half a month their entire childhood. 

Just my observation.

I am really not happy with the school system here for my little one. Things need to be fixed, and fast. 

Teachers and the DOE plan their "days off" to maximize their Vegas trips.

HHN had a story and posted the "facts" used for this "unbiased" paper that was given to students.  It def leans toward the DNC side.