Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump (Read 49874 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #160 on: March 25, 2025, 06:28:57 PM »
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-war-trump-putin-discuss-ceasefire-sumy-hospital-strike/

The order was given, but not followed.  Could be due to the time it takes to reach every unit that already had attack plans. 

Since you're late to the game and this happened days ago, we saw how Trump reacted....he didn't do anything yet.  Which sounds like a "let it slide". Maybe he and his advisors understand how long it takes for orders to be issued and there can be some who refuse (Russians) them cause they want war.

It doesn't matter what Trump does, you will find a way to make it sound like the best thing in your mind.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #161 on: March 25, 2025, 06:35:18 PM »
Show me where anyone said just using an autopen made anything void.

it can be argued that the founders never anticipated a device that someone other than the president could use to sign his signature.

In most government offices, the standard is to place the signature information (signature block) that belongs to the actual signer.  Then below that it states they are signing for the actual person in charge.  Basically they are authorized to act on behalf of their boss, and the signature block properly shows the actual signer as well as who should have signed it had they been available.

I guess the President can't delegate anyone else to do his constitutionally required duties, so it's not surprising you never see something signed by the VP or WH Chief of Staff saying they are signing on behalf of the President.  What does need to happen in cases where an autopen is used, especially where the Constitution explicitly reserves that authority to the President alone, is there needs to be documentation either in written voice recorded or video recorded form that proves the president authorized the signature and was fully aware of the contents of what was signed.

Ask Joe today to explain all of his last minute pardons, he's going to not remember.  However, he will pretend to remember.  That's what people with dementia do.  It's too embarrassing to admit you can't remember something as important as a pardon.  It's no different than someone with hearing loss nodding in agreement or saying, "Yeah" or "Okay" to something they didn't hear you say.  it gets embarrassing to ask the same people to constantly repeat what they said.

Short of notes, recordings or other tangible evidence, I'd say Joe can't prove he was aware of the pardons. 

The fact that the pardons are preemptive for any crimes they may be charged with in the future makes the entire situation 100 times worse.  Most pardons are very specific as to the statutes associated with the crimes being forgiven.

CMO said
"Trump mentioned the "auto pen" signatures for their pardons, which would make it void. " 

The burden of proof is to show that the signatures were not valid in some way, if Biden says he cannot recall a specific signature the courts aren't going to assume they are invalid. A lack of independent recollection doesn't mean the signature is invalid This is why I don't think Trump administration is going to have success in challenging the validity.

I have more hope that this notion of preemptive pardons gets challenged.

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #162 on: March 25, 2025, 06:55:45 PM »
It doesn't matter what Trump does, you will find a way to make it sound like the best thing in your mind.
Hahahhaa nice try to change subject instead of admitting i was right.

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changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #163 on: March 25, 2025, 06:57:35 PM »
CMO said
"Trump mentioned the "auto pen" signatures for their pardons, which would make it void. " 

The burden of proof is to show that the signatures were not valid in some way, if Biden says he cannot recall a specific signature the courts aren't going to assume they are invalid. A lack of independent recollection doesn't mean the signature is invalid This is why I don't think Trump administration is going to have success in challenging the validity.

I have more hope that this notion of preemptive pardons gets challenged.
And what was Trumps full statement of which im referring to.  Go to his X.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #164 on: March 30, 2025, 05:08:20 PM »
Hahahhaa nice try to change subject instead of admitting i was right.


Well I don't like to lie so....

eyeeatingfish

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #165 on: March 30, 2025, 05:08:55 PM »
And what was Trumps full statement of which im referring to.  Go to his X.

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Not doing your homework for you.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #166 on: March 30, 2025, 05:13:24 PM »
Well I don't like to lie so....
Yeah, but you just can't help yourself.

#CongenitalLiarsClub
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #167 on: March 30, 2025, 05:14:53 PM »
Not doing your homework for you.

Start by doing your own homework.

Since you can't seem to figure out what that means, we're here to help.

You can lead a troll to knowledge, but you can't make him think.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #168 on: March 31, 2025, 09:40:07 AM »
Well I don't like to lie so....


Hahahhaa keep thinking of any justification you can just so you don't have to admit when you're wrong.

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #169 on: March 31, 2025, 09:40:45 AM »
Not doing your homework for you.

This statement makes no sense at all.  Thanks for playing.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #170 on: April 01, 2025, 12:12:29 PM »
How can a circuit judge issue an injunction that affects the entire country?  Shouldn't the injunction only affect the parties to the complaint?

These are not class action lawsuits, yet the injunctions affect everyone.  That's not how the courts were supposed to function. 

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #171 on: April 01, 2025, 12:35:10 PM »
"All 677 federal judges must agree or anything Trump does is invalid." ~Stephen something, Trumps former press sec.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #172 on: April 01, 2025, 01:12:33 PM »
"All 677 federal judges must agree or anything Trump does is invalid." ~Stephen something, Trumps former press sec.

Lawfare taken to the next level.  Judges deciding what's a valid executive action and what isn't.

We didn't elect these judges, IIRC.  The same ones defending this are screaming, "Nobody elected Elon Musk!"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #173 on: April 01, 2025, 01:26:26 PM »
Lawfare taken to the next level.  Judges deciding what's a valid executive action and what isn't.

We didn't elect these judges, IIRC.  The same ones defending this are screaming, "Nobody elected Elon Musk!"

I mean, it's obvious lawfare is being used because illegal people being deported speaks for themselves. Now if someone became a US citizen and had zero crime committed and was deported, then I understand.

The courts are not supposed to be used in this mannor.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #174 on: April 01, 2025, 02:10:10 PM »
I mean, it's obvious lawfare is being used because illegal people being deported speaks for themselves. Now if someone became a US citizen and had zero crime committed and was deported, then I understand.

The courts are not supposed to be used in this mannor.

Right, but that means ONE case would be challenged in court and ruled on.  The remedy would only apply to the parties involved in that case.  The remedy would not involve a nationwide injunction. 

Watch that Tim Pool video where Senator Kennedy is in a hearing -- starting at the 13:00 mark.  He and the witness lay out the facts surrounding universal or nationwide injunctions issued by federal district court judges.  No statute or SCOTUS precedence exists to serve as a legal basis for such injunctions.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #175 on: April 01, 2025, 11:58:19 PM »

Hahahhaa keep thinking of any justification you can just so you don't have to admit when you're wrong.

I have to be wrong to admit I am wrong. I figured that was obvious but I guess I had to spell it out for you.

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #176 on: April 02, 2025, 07:40:21 AM »
I have to be wrong to admit I am wrong. I figured that was obvious but I guess I had to spell it out for you.

Wrong again. Hahahaha.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #177 on: April 02, 2025, 07:55:56 AM »
I have to be wrong to admit I am wrong. I figured that was obvious but I guess I had to spell it out for you.

That makes you wrong x 2.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #178 on: April 02, 2025, 11:32:00 AM »
The law firm Milbank which is a huge one with almost unlimited resources does pro bono stuff  if it either aligns with their companies thought or is good for marketing. They are 1 of 4 law firms who cut a deal with Trump recently so he doesn't make a XO about powerful law firms like Milbank using lawfare.

FYI, they are also representing HI in the sensitive places lawsuit. Which means they are willing to violate the constitution and SCOTUS (Bruen) to represent HI.  It's Alan Beck and Kevin O'Grady vs a huge lawfirm and one of the top attorneys in the nation (Kaytal).  Think little league baseball player vs MLB's top player.

With this agreement, they will have to represent both sides fairly.

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #179 on: April 03, 2025, 09:31:44 AM »
When I was in Taiwan in 2019, I noticed that non Asian products cost about 3X as much. Like Dove bar of soap, Evian bottle water and even stuff at IKEA.  I bought a bottle scrubber for $3 USD that it cost about $0.75 at the one in Vegas for the same item.

To give an idea of income, the average person makes about $600 USD a month. Rent is $60 USD.  So only 10% of their income goes to rent.  Starbucks is only about 10% cheaper than in HI. So to spend $4 on a coffee is like if that same coffee in the US cost $150.  I used the $60USD for rent and coffee is less than 10% of that.

I assumed it was due to shipping cost. But it's also probably tariffs as well.  In 2019, I never thought about tariffs.