Where is gun source and who runs it?

Right by Moilili field.  Tony owns the shop.

I was there before 9AM waiting outside along with at least 10 other guys. We waited outside until 9AM when we all went in to find a crowd of people already inside.

And why do I wait to be asked for help? It's because I'm not a rude a-hole. Don't you think it's rude to say, "Can you come help me over here?" when the employee is already helping someone?. I shouldn't have to fight my way to the front of the crowd. I'd rather the store come up with an organized way to help customers that's fair for everyone.

Sorry, I don't get your last paragraph. You know it is crowded yet you still expect service as if the store was empty? Seems pretty easy to ask for assistance without being rude. Maybe I just read it wrong or something.

Sorry, I don't get your last paragraph. You know it is crowded yet you still expect service as if the store was empty? Seems pretty easy to ask for assistance without being rude. Maybe I just read it wrong or something.

Have you been to a LGS lately?  Ratio of customers to LGS employees are high.  So figure that there are 20+ customers with 2-5 (give or take) employees in a somewhat small area.  I wouldn't say it's "easy" to ask for assistance, but rather you need a little pateince knowing that there is a crowd and LGS employees can only work so fast.  I would have to agree with the post that stated that it is rude to ask for assistance or attention when a LGS employee is already actively helping another customer.  With that said, I for one don't mind it when someone is helping me and another customer interrupts to ask a quick question, but find it irritating when they pull them away from actively helping me.  I give props to the majority of LGS as I truely think they are doing the best they can during this rush.

Yes, I was at YG and OGC this past weekend and realize it is crowded.

I don't understand why one would expect the same attention when the store is crowded and when it is not. Sorry if I assumed that from his post, but it seemed that the gripe was that no one asked him if he needed help.

Sure, it is easy to ask for assistance without being rude. Wait for a break in the conversation then politely ask the salesperson for help once he is done with his/her customer.

I think he wants a better system then standing around waiting in line.
Maybe they could have a paper and have everyone sign in like at eating establishments.  And work down the list.
Or have people pull numbers and wait till there's is called.
I personally don't see what difference it makes if they are busy. Everyone is waiting for the same service.

I was there before 9AM waiting outside along with at least 10 other guys. We waited outside until 9AM when we all went in to find a crowd of people already inside.

And why do I wait to be asked for help? It's because I'm not a rude a-hole. Don't you think it's rude to say, "Can you come help me over here?" when the employee is already helping someone?. I shouldn't have to fight my way to the front of the crowd. I'd rather the store come up with an organized way to help customers that's fair for everyone.

If it's crowded though, it's going to be impossible for the store to keep track of the order in which the customers walked through the door.  On top of that, each customer is there for different reasons.  One person might have something super simple that could be taken cared of by an employee at the same time he's helping someone else.  Another person might be there that will take up more time with the employee.  T-mobile's store has this sign in process.  You get helped in the order that you sign in.  Which is the dumbest shit i've ever seen because one time i went there just to purchase an extra battery for my phone and had to wait 30 minutes before i could get someone to assist me because they were all "helping" another customer with actual phone plan set-ups etc.  Then when my turn finally came around, they fucking tell me that they don't have the battery for my phone despite being told they did over the phone 1 hour prior to me showing up.  (As you can probably tell, thinking about the experience still pisses me off) I would hate to see that kind of process at gun stores, especially if you're there to pick up a case of ammo or something simple.

IMO if the shop is super crowded and you feel that no one is coming up to ask if you need help, listen to what the employee and the customer being helped are talking about and use your judgement to step in and ask a quick question if you know what you're there for is simple.  If what you're there for isn't quite as "simple", at least let one of the workers know what you're there for so that they can help you after they're done with their current customer.

Prior to firearmagedon I tried to visit all of the LGS regularly to check out the gun deals etc. Since then only x-ring since I live sort of near by. My experiences have been pretty good with all of them with the exception of Honolulu Firearms/Magnum.

Here is my list and opinions.

OGC- Great staff, prices are good and selection is the best on the island. Parking sucks though.

SE- Prices are good, selection is fair. Staff is young and seem like they were getting too old for Airsoft and moved up to the real stuff. I just find it a little funny listening to people give advise about guns & gear when it's very obvious that they themselves have had very little real world experience. These guys must be badass at Call of Duty though.  I learned to just smile and nod.

Kaneohe Gunshop- Prices are good, selection is limited but he is one of the best places to get individual AR parts if you are building. Feels like the soup nazi from Seinfeld though. Just keep your head down and ask direct questions or "No soup for you!"

WGS- Cool guys, prices are decent and have a lot of parts if your in to AR building, I would say a little better than KGS because they often carry barrels.

Gun source- The owner is cool and the selection pre-craziness was good. Prices though we're a little higher than the rest.

Young guns- Staff is nice but the prices were a little up there. Looks like they have a lot of stuff that's been sitting for a while.

Honolulu Firearms- Staff are young and not very knowledgable. Who are they kidding, it's Magnum under "new" management. Same over priced guns, same over priced accessories.

X-ring- Pretty cool, prices are decent but the selection of parts and accessories seem a little on the cheaper side ie no La Rue, LMT, Noveske, Aimpoint, Surefire etc. I guess I'm just spoiled by OGC standards. The fact that they offer "gunsmithing" gives them an edge though.

These are all just my opinions and I hope not to offend.

X-ring- Pretty cool, prices are decent but the selection of parts and accessories seem a little on the cheaper side ie no La Rue, LMT, Noveske, Aimpoint, Surefire etc. I guess I'm just spoiled by OGC standards. The fact that they offer "gunsmithing" gives them an edge though.

We carry all the name brand stuff.  Its all mixed in with everything else. When we have it they sell fast .  Just Ask.

We don't always stock the $$$ scopes becuase they move to slow....but we do have them or can order them fast.

THANKS!

(we are constantly in the process of making our own products)

SE- Prices are good, selection is fair. Staff is young and seem like they were getting too old for Airsoft and moved up to the real stuff. I just find it a little funny listening to people give advise about guns & gear when it's very obvious that they themselves have had very little real world experience. These guys must be badass at Call of Duty though.  I learned to just smile and nod.

Thats because they are airsofters. They were the ones at the Kokohead range wearing Epowersports t shirts once in awhile. They can be seen on Epower's pic galleries and forums. They are operators in the virtual sense.

Thats because they are airsofters. They were the ones at the Kokohead range wearing Epowersports t shirts once in awhile. They can be seen on Epower's pic galleries and forums. They are operators in the virtual sense.

I've shot USPSA/IPSC with a few of them and a couple of them can shoot.

SE- Prices are good, selection is fair. Staff is young and seem like they were getting too old for Airsoft and moved up to the real stuff. I just find it a little funny listening to people give advise about guns & gear when it's very obvious that they themselves have had very little real world experience. These guys must be badass at Call of Duty though.  I learned to just smile and nod.

You're wrong.

I shoot with the SE guys, both competitively and for recreation.

I guarantee you they can outshoot, more than 70% of the forum members.

I'd gladly have them by my side if the SHTF.

You're wrong.

I shoot with the SE guys, both competitively and for recreation.

I guarantee you they can outshoot, more than 70% of the forum members.

I'd gladly have them by my side if the SHTF.

I've out shot a couple of them from time to time, at least on one stage.   

Thats because they are shooting with a hangover.  LOL

They are good entertainment when we go on private shoots. 

The SE boys are great guys.  Great to shoot with. Great to party with.

Man I see a lot of posts about price gouging this and long lines that. All I got to say is where were you guys when prices were lower and inventory was plentiful 1 month ago??? If you waited til now to get into semiauto firearms what did you expect? As early as 1 month ago shevles were never empty and there were pmags aplenty! IMHO if all of these people running for the nearest black rifle and 30rd mag had made that purchase in early 2012 and either joined the NRA or was backing pro gun political candidates, Sandy Hook or not, we would not be in this situation. Yeah I know, should have, could have, would have right. What you have now is the reality of today. What will you do now to prevent more of this???

Man I see a lot of posts about price gouging this and long lines that. All I got to say is where were you guys when prices were lower and inventory was plentiful 1 month ago??? If you waited til now to get into semiauto firearms what did you expect? As early as 1 month ago shevles were never empty and there were pmags aplenty! IMHO if all of these people running for the nearest black rifle and 30rd mag had made that purchase in early 2012 and either joined the NRA or was backing pro gun political candidates, Sandy Hook or not, we would not be in this situation. Yeah I know, should have, could have, would have right. What you have now is the reality of today. What will you do now to prevent more of this???

hoard stuff we can't get if there is a ban

Man I see a lot of posts about price gouging this and long lines that. All I got to say is where were you guys when prices were lower and inventory was plentiful 1 month ago??? If you waited til now to get into semiauto firearms what did you expect? As early as 1 month ago shevles were never empty and there were pmags aplenty! IMHO if all of these people running for the nearest black rifle and 30rd mag had made that purchase in early 2012 and either joined the NRA or was backing pro gun political candidates, Sandy Hook or not, we would not be in this situation. Yeah I know, should have, could have, would have right. What you have now is the reality of today. What will you do now to prevent more of this???

Since you mentioned it, I'm going to start another post.  NRA Life Membership at $300 again.  Anyone who wants more info, PM me for details.

Man I see a lot of posts about price gouging this and long lines that. All I got to say is where were you guys when prices were lower and inventory was plentiful 1 month ago??? If you waited til now to get into semiauto firearms what did you expect? As early as 1 month ago shevles were never empty and there were pmags aplenty! IMHO if all of these people running for the nearest black rifle and 30rd mag had made that purchase in early 2012 and either joined the NRA or was backing pro gun political candidates, Sandy Hook or not, we would not be in this situation.

True. 

Mods should just merge this thread and the Ogc thread.  I think the panic frenzy is getting to everyone.

Since you mentioned it, I'm going to start another post.  NRA Life Membership at $300 again.  Anyone who wants more info, PM me for details.

To all you guys who are standing in long lines for $1k WASRs, the $300 life membership will make more of a difference to prices, inventory and more important, YOUR RIGHTS! than spending that amount on a $500 AK. Forget about all the rants for a second. If everyone in those lines signed up, we would be much closer to long term solution to this whole mess.

I went to YG today and was joking with Martha.  She told me she was going to throw me out! 

All i asked jokingly if she had 556 and 223.