#immadoctor says RFK has no experience... (Read 15737 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #80 on: March 11, 2025, 12:03:23 PM »
A slow easing would make sense to reduce push back from the food industry as well as the libertarian minded.

I am ont he fence on the whole food dyes issue. We have the FDA saying they are safe for consumption but we are moving forward with banning them. Much of the arguments against them are sensational in nature, natural doesn't always mean safe, and artificial doesn't always mean dangerous.  On the other hand there is a concern that these dyes are harmful so maybe we should ban them just to be safe.
You give government agencies too much benefit of the doubt.

Rather than doing studies and tests for all possible uses of an additive, they simply rely on the lack of evidence that they pose a risk to declare them safe.

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Professor Jim Stevenson from Southampton University and author of the
report said: "This has been a major study investigating an important area
of research. The results suggest that consumption of certain mixtures of
artificial food colours and sodium benzoate preservative
are associated
with increases in hyperactive behaviour in children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Food_and_Drug_Administration

It's not enough to test a food coloring in a few products or as a standalone substance in lab rats.  There needs to be a standard clinical test process for anyone marketing any additives in their final food product.  Effects of combinations are difficult to predict without such tests.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #81 on: March 11, 2025, 07:54:10 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hawaii-governor-says-president-trump-told-him-of-criticism-have-at-it-as-long-as-you-re-leaving-me-out-of-it/ar-AA1AJu7u?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=87c46b974dc5467ab1c4e7b977c0e6d3&ei=16

Green:  "But I'm going to at least represent our state's values". :rofl:

Green was more harsh leading up to the Presidential election.  Way more harsh about Trump.  But now that Trump has won and is now POTUS, Green is basically all flash in the pan, showing his hawaii supporters that he got their back by wasting taxpayer money to go to Washington in a feeble attempt to stop the inevitable.

Basically, the President is saying have at it but leave me out of it, lest you feel my wrath on your little banana republik out in the middle of nowhere.  RFK Jr. can take care of his own battles, especially with little porky's like you who claim #immadoctor and marches to the blue-haired drum of pork barrel corruption.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

eyeeatingfish

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #82 on: March 13, 2025, 09:29:12 AM »
You give government agencies too much benefit of the doubt.

Rather than doing studies and tests for all possible uses of an additive, they simply rely on the lack of evidence that they pose a risk to declare them safe.

It is not that I think the FDA is beyond reproach by any means but anyone can always come along and say "it needs more study" to cast doubt upon something. At what point do we say that a chemical should be allowed for consumption because there is no evidence it causes harm vs we should ban a chemical because we can't say for certain it is safe?


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It's not enough to test a food coloring in a few products or as a standalone substance in lab rats.  There needs to be a standard clinical test process for anyone marketing any additives in their final food product.  Effects of combinations are difficult to predict without such tests.

I don't disagree but there seems to be an ideological disparity on what gets scrutiny. If a chemist develops a new artificial or flavor compound it gets a lot of scrutiny but if a farmer breeds a new variety of fruit he doesn't have to get his fruit tested and approved.

changemyoil66

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2025, 11:21:14 AM »
It is not that I think the FDA is beyond reproach by any means but anyone can always come along and say "it needs more study" to cast doubt upon something. At what point do we say that a chemical should be allowed for consumption because there is no evidence it causes harm vs we should ban a chemical because we can't say for certain it is safe?


I don't disagree but there seems to be an ideological disparity on what gets scrutiny. If a chemist develops a new artificial or flavor compound it gets a lot of scrutiny but if a farmer breeds a new variety of fruit he doesn't have to get his fruit tested and approved.

The people who control the most genetically modified produce is Monsato.  You should google this and what kind of influence they have.

Something is causing the autism rate to increase in our nation.  The tism is everywhere, there might even be people who have it and unaware.

Update: I forgot to add in ADD and food coloring.  Enough parents have noticed the difference when removing it from a young childs diet for it to not be a coincidence.  How come other countries like ours do not require the same amount of vaxx's? 
« Last Edit: March 13, 2025, 12:36:04 PM by changemyoil66 »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2025, 11:35:28 AM »
It is not that I think the FDA is beyond reproach by any means but anyone can always come along and say "it needs more study" to cast doubt upon something. At what point do we say that a chemical should be allowed for consumption because there is no evidence it causes harm vs we should ban a chemical because we can't say for certain it is safe?


I don't disagree but there seems to be an ideological disparity on what gets scrutiny. If a chemist develops a new artificial or flavor compound it gets a lot of scrutiny but if a farmer breeds a new variety of fruit he doesn't have to get his fruit tested and approved.
You still believe there is always a one-size-fits-all process for every case in every discussion.

A chemical additive is totally different from a new  fruit variety.  The chemical composition of the fruit can be documented using a mass spectrometer or other means.  If the composition is the same as other fruits, then there's no difference -- so extensive testing is not needed.  Adding a chemical dye or flavoring can react to other chemicals, so the testing is more critical for safety.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #85 on: March 13, 2025, 12:25:30 PM »
You still believe there is always a one-size-fits-all process for every case in every discussion.

A chemical additive is totally different from a new  fruit variety.  The chemical composition of the fruit can be documented using a mass spectrometer or other means.  If the composition is the same as other fruits, then there's no difference -- so extensive testing is not needed.  Adding a chemical dye or flavoring can react to other chemicals, so the testing is more critical for safety.

What about GMO's?  In a docu, there was a wheat plant that "blew in the wind" to a neighboring farm and began populating in that farm.  The "DNA" is trademarked, so Monsato with tall their lawyers was able to take that farm from the mom n pop owner who has been producing wheat for generations cause their strain was able to be ID'd in court.

THeir wheat strain is supposed to be resistant to insects so they don't eat them.  IDK if I would trust fully to knowingly ingest this type of wheat.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #86 on: March 13, 2025, 03:05:44 PM »
What about GMO's?  In a docu, there was a wheat plant that "blew in the wind" to a neighboring farm and began populating in that farm.  The "DNA" is trademarked, so Monsato with tall their lawyers was able to take that farm from the mom n pop owner who has been producing wheat for generations cause their strain was able to be ID'd in court.

THeir wheat strain is supposed to be resistant to insects so they don't eat them.  IDK if I would trust fully to knowingly ingest this type of wheat.

From what I know, the GMO wheat can produce its own pesticides to become insect resistant.  But the bigger benefit is in herbicides.  A GMO crop is resistant to the herbicides developed to complement it.  The crop can be sprayed with the herbicide to control weeds without destroying the crops.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #87 on: March 14, 2025, 09:07:22 AM »
From what I know, the GMO wheat can produce its own pesticides to become insect resistant.  But the bigger benefit is in herbicides.  A GMO crop is resistant to the herbicides developed to complement it.  The crop can be sprayed with the herbicide to control weeds without destroying the crops.

This is why I'm hesitant to consume.

macsak

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #88 on: March 14, 2025, 10:00:07 AM »
plus it can steal your thoughts...

This is why I'm hesitant to consume.

hvybarrels

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #89 on: March 14, 2025, 11:23:04 AM »
plus it can steal your thoughts...

It can definitely steal your gut bacteria, which has a direct impact on your ability to think clearly

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31442459/
Is an armadillo just a tactical opossum?

changemyoil66

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #90 on: March 14, 2025, 11:51:14 AM »
plus it can steal your thoughts...

Focus.

I have a tin foil hat on 24/7, so this isn't possible.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #91 on: March 14, 2025, 11:54:20 AM »
Focus.

I have a tin foil hat on 24/7, so this isn't possible.
Aluminum (tin) foil apparel actually makes it easier for satellites to track you.

Just sayin'   :geekdanc: :shaka: :shake:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #92 on: March 14, 2025, 11:55:31 AM »
heads

Focus.

I have a tin foil hat on 24/7, so this isn't possible.

hvybarrels

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #93 on: March 14, 2025, 12:10:35 PM »
Is an armadillo just a tactical opossum?

changemyoil66

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #94 on: March 14, 2025, 12:14:21 PM »
Aluminum (tin) foil apparel actually makes it easier for satellites to track you.

Just sayin'   :geekdanc: :shaka: :shake:

There are 2 sides to the foil. Dull side and reflective side. Reflective side up.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #95 on: March 14, 2025, 01:51:45 PM »
There are 2 sides to the foil. Dull side and reflective side. Reflective side up.

Reflective surfaces are also great for Infrared and radar returns.

You're making it too easy for them.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #96 on: March 14, 2025, 02:22:48 PM »
Reflective surfaces are also great for Infrared and radar returns.

You're making it too easy for them.

That's what the cloaking device is for.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #97 on: March 14, 2025, 02:29:16 PM »
That's what the cloaking device is for.

Take a few lessons from stealth technology.  A surface that both absorbs and deflects radar in many directions works well to trick radar and infrared.

Being cloaked won't stop those.  Heat signatures, radar and sonar, etc., are not dependent on visual acquisition.

Something like Klingons might use requires more power than you can provide while remaining mobile.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #98 on: March 17, 2025, 08:30:53 AM »
Take a few lessons from stealth technology.  A surface that both absorbs and deflects radar in many directions works well to trick radar and infrared.

Being cloaked won't stop those.  Heat signatures, radar and sonar, etc., are not dependent on visual acquisition.

Something like Klingons might use requires more power than you can provide while remaining mobile.

If the much more advanced Enterprise can't detected a cloaked ship, then our privative radar won't either.

changemyoil66

Re: #immadoctor says RFK has no experience...
« Reply #99 on: March 17, 2025, 08:33:33 AM »
Went to the new Don Don Donki in Kapolei. It's nothing different from Don Quijote in town.  The food is the same and the food vendors aren't anything special. So not worth at rip to go to for anyone. THe enterance is on 1 side of the bldg and the exit on another. So if you park near the entrance, you have to walk all the way back.  I also saw no cart return stations. The place wasn't packed at all and there were no carts available.

The point of this is I bought  japanese strawberry yogurt and the dye used for the coloring was red cabbage.  This product was made in Kobe, Japan.  I checked another Japan made energy drink and the dye used was beet root.