US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien (Read 2241 times)

eyeeatingfish

US citizen arrested under suspicion of entering Florida while being an unauthorized alien. When he saw the judge the next morning the judge inspected the birth certificate and social security card and considered them to be authentic. She found no probable cause for the charge but he still ordered the man detained because ICE had an immigration detainer which is a request to hold someone so DHS can take a migrant into custody. He was later released

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/lopez-gomez-citizen-detained-ice-florida/index.html

I looked for body camera footage but haven't found any yet. He was held less than 48 hours. Not great but better than those times they deported US citizens

Flapp_Jackson

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2025, 01:08:24 AM »
Much ado about nothing.

Making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 :popcorn:     :popcorn:     :popcorn:     :popcorn:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2025, 05:43:55 AM »
so the system worked as designed
got it...

US citizen arrested under suspicion of entering Florida while being an unauthorized alien. When he saw the judge the next morning the judge inspected the birth certificate and social security card and considered them to be authentic. She found no probable cause for the charge but he still ordered the man detained because ICE had an immigration detainer which is a request to hold someone so DHS can take a migrant into custody. He was later released

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/lopez-gomez-citizen-detained-ice-florida/index.html

I looked for body camera footage but haven't found any yet. He was held less than 48 hours. Not great but better than those times they deported US citizens

changemyoil66

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2025, 07:42:41 AM »
With the thousands of deportations, mistakes are bound to happen. Someone who's logical would make this correct assumption.

#nothingburger

Flapp_Jackson

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2025, 11:00:30 AM »
With the thousands of deportations, mistakes are bound to happen. Someone who's logical would make this correct assumption.

#nothingburger

Victim is the new celebrity. 

Whine loud enough about how someone else or the government did something bad to you, and you get to be front page news -- as long as the bad guy was Republican.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2025, 11:23:12 AM »
InB4 OP post a new thread that ICE was at the wrong address.  Cause you know, addresses are 100% accurate.

QUIETShooter

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2025, 12:40:17 PM »
Much ado about nothing.

Making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 :popcorn:     :popcorn:     :popcorn:     :popcorn:

If you know who you are and have the proper documentation, you have nothing to worry about.

Of course nothing is perfect, there are corrupt people in LE and Justice Departments, but hey, welcome to the real world.

People will highlight the wrongful arrest part and downplay the justice system playing out part.

BECAUSE SH*T HAPPENS AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2025, 12:57:43 PM »
If you know who you are and have the proper documentation, you have nothing to worry about.

Of course nothing is perfect, there are corrupt people in LE and Justice Departments, but hey, welcome to the real world.

People will highlight the wrongful arrest part and downplay the justice system playing out part.

BECAUSE SH*T HAPPENS AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

Considering the track record with most government initiatives, what's being reported as deportation errors is insignificant.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2025, 11:55:24 PM »
Much ado about nothing.

Making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 :popcorn:     :popcorn:     :popcorn:     :popcorn:

So a TRO blocking you from owning a gun for a while is a huge constitutional violation but arresting a citizen for being an illegal alien, no biggie?

Show me where I made a mountain out of it. I posted a news story in a neutral manner, stop trying to make it all about you.

eyeeatingfish

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2025, 11:58:47 PM »
With the thousands of deportations, mistakes are bound to happen. Someone who's logical would make this correct assumption.

#nothingburger

You going to say the same thing if a TRO from an angry ex takes away your gun rights?

This wasn't a mistake by the way, the person provided sufficient proof and the judge still held him.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2025, 12:37:25 AM »
So a TRO blocking you from owning a gun for a while is a huge constitutional violation but arresting a citizen for being an illegal alien, no biggie?

Show me where I made a mountain out of it. I posted a news story in a neutral manner, stop trying to make it all about you.
I was commenting on how the people who wrote the article made it into something much bigger than it is.

You're so vain, you thought my comment was about you.  Everything has to be about you, doesn't it?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2025, 08:27:35 AM »
You going to say the same thing if a TRO from an angry ex takes away your gun rights?

This wasn't a mistake by the way, the person provided sufficient proof and the judge still held him.

Another bad example. Thanks for playing.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2025, 10:06:12 AM »
You going to say the same thing if a TRO from an angry ex takes away your gun rights?

This wasn't a mistake by the way, the person provided sufficient proof and the judge still held him.

The cop had every reason to detain the driver after the man CONFESSED at the scene to being in the US illegally.

Is it your expert legal opinion that judges do not have to follow the LAW??
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The state judge in Lopez-Gomez’s case this week verified his US birth
certificate and found no probable cause for charging him with crossing
into Florida illegally, court records show, but said she didn’t have
jurisdiction to release him because of an ICE hold, Akbar said.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2025, 09:53:20 AM »
I was commenting on how the people who wrote the article made it into something much bigger than it is.

You're so vain, you thought my comment was about you.  Everything has to be about you, doesn't it?

Did you read the article I posted or are you talking about some other news piece you saw because the one I posted is written in a pretty neutral manner

eyeeatingfish

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2025, 10:03:34 AM »
The cop had every reason to detain the driver after the man CONFESSED at the scene to being in the US illegally.

Is it your expert legal opinion that judges do not have to follow the LAW??

Did you not read the full paragraph where it reports the man's attorney said he did not confess to being here illegally?

The big issue is not so much the cop's choice to arrest the man. There are times where a cop can mistakenly arrest someone despite best intention to establish PC.
The big issue is that the judge admitted the charges were wrong and yet he was still held.

"Oh but the detainer..."
Detainers don't apply to US citizens.
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While “no US citizen is a proper subject of a detainer, … many US citizens have been the mistaken subject of ICE detainers and even prolonged detention and removal, despite their assertion of citizenship,” according to the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, a non-profit working on such issues since 1979.

Detainers are requests to hold "aliens"
https://www.ice.gov/immigration-detainers

The minute the judge confirmed this man's US citizenship means the detainer is moot and he should have been released. A detainer is also a request, not an order.

Kalikikopa

Re: US citizen arrested under suspicion of being an illegal alien
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2025, 08:14:06 PM »
US citizen arrested under suspicion of entering Florida while being an unauthorized alien. When he saw the judge the next morning the judge inspected the birth certificate and social security card and considered them to be authentic. She found no probable cause for the charge but he still ordered the man detained because ICE had an immigration detainer which is a request to hold someone so DHS can take a migrant into custody. He was later released

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/lopez-gomez-citizen-detained-ice-florida/index.html

I looked for body camera footage but haven't found any yet. He was held less than 48 hours. Not great but better than those times they deported US citizens

Still better than Hawaii, I guess a cop thought I accelerated up the speed limit too fast(electric car) so he pulled me over. Refused to accept me proof of insurance on the insurance app, then ticketed me for 4 miles over the speed limit. The judge threw out the speeding, then asked if i had proof of insurance. When i presented the insurance on the app, and mentioned that in 2016  Ige required the app to be considered proof of insurance, he said dismissed, yet it is still on my record as driving with no insurance.