I am very curious to watch how this split between Musk and Trump will affect the MAGA tribe, who is going to take which side, how is it all going to play out.

Either way though, the twitter battle is really heating up and is quite entertaining!
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-musk-timeline-twitter-truth-social-b2765011.html

I am very curious to watch how this split between Musk and Trump will affect the MAGA tribe, who is going to take which side, how is it all going to play out.

Either way though, the twitter battle is really heating up and is quite entertaining!
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-musk-timeline-twitter-truth-social-b2765011.html

You're also part of the MAGA tribe and you didn't post which side youre taking.  But instead wonder about others.  Guess we still cannot expect you to make a firm statement.

You're also part of the MAGA tribe and you didn't post which side youre taking.  But instead wonder about others.  Guess we still cannot expect you to make a firm statement.

I am part of the MAGA tribe? News to me.

I don't really take "sides", I am not very tribal and I don't care much about tribal loyalty. I go issue by issue rather than toeing the line.

In terms of Musk's criticism of the BBB (big beautiful bill) I agree with Musk because I am a fiscal conservative.

I recon it's all theatre.

You can tell because of Musky dropping the Epstein stuff.

Anyone with a pulse knows that the deep state would have already destroyed DJT with that, if there was any conceivable (or completely inconceivable) way to do so.

I think that was the tip-off actually.

Securities laws are nasty when it comes to corporate insiders and their conduct relative to shareholder interests.  Lot's of people have lost a lot of money on the Tesla sellathon, and Musky must be getting a lot of heat.

Time to abort the love-fest, and the split has to look aggressive and deep, etc.

Picking on the big beautiful bill was the perfect lay-up.

I am part of the MAGA tribe? News to me.

I don't really take "sides", I am not very tribal and I don't care much about tribal loyalty. I go issue by issue rather than toeing the line.

In terms of Musk's criticism of the BBB (big beautiful bill) I agree with Musk because I am a fiscal conservative.

There's a lot of things that is "news to you".

Definition of a tribe per google.

"a social division in a traditional society consisting of families or communities linked by social, economic, religious, or blood ties, with a common culture and dialect, typically having a recognized leader."

I assume you don't want a bad economy (economic above mentioned). So yes, you are part of the MAGA tribe.  But if you do want our economy to crash and many people to get screwed in the process, then I was wrong about assuming you want our economy to do well.  You could have instead used the words "MAGA supporters", but chose to use the word "tribe" for some reason.

Also, even though it says "typically having a recognized leader", Trump is POTUS and the leader of our country. But "typical" doesn't mean 100%. So you meet the above qualifications.

I knew you didn't have a side. I wanted to show your lack of it again and how predictable you are.

I recon it's all theatre.

You can tell because of Musky dropping the Epstein stuff.

Anyone with a pulse knows that the deep state would have already destroyed DJT with that, if there was any conceivable (or completely inconceivable) way to do so.

I think that was the tip-off actually.

Securities laws are nasty when it comes to corporate insiders and their conduct relative to shareholder interests.  Lot's of people have lost a lot of money on the Tesla sellathon, and Musky must be getting a lot of heat.

Time to abort the love-fest, and the split has to look aggressive and deep, etc.

Picking on the big beautiful bill was the perfect lay-up.

Musk isn't wrong. But in context Trumps name was named for things, but not the pedo stuff.  This was already covered years ago and the fake news ran with it until the truth was discovered and it was nothing like usual.

You are correct, had Trump been with Ep doing pedo stuff, it would have been released years ago and he would have lost support for his elections.

There's a lot of things that is "news to you".

Definition of a tribe per google.

"a social division in a traditional society consisting of families or communities linked by social, economic, religious, or blood ties, with a common culture and dialect, typically having a recognized leader."

I assume you don't want a bad economy (economic above mentioned). So yes, you are part of the MAGA tribe.  But if you do want our economy to crash and many people to get screwed in the process, then I was wrong about assuming you want our economy to do well.  You could have instead used the words "MAGA supporters", but chose to use the word "tribe" for some reason.

Also, even though it says "typically having a recognized leader", Trump is POTUS and the leader of our country. But "typical" doesn't mean 100%. So you meet the above qualifications.

I knew you didn't have a side. I wanted to show your lack of it again and how predictable you are.

You calling me MAGA makes no sense after Flapp saying I have TDS multiple times. You guys need to coordinate your messaging a little better.

No one wants a bad economy so by that definition democrats are MAGA too. If you are saying that anyone who wants America to be good is MAGA then sure, almost everyone is MAGA, but the phrase is synonymous with Trump. When I use MAGA I am referring to the Trump tribe, not merely anyone who wants America to be good.

I used the word tribe instead of MAGA supporters because there is a split, people who supported both when they were together now have to pick the Trump tribe or the Musk tribe.

You say I don't have a side as if it were a bad thing. I wear it like a badge of honor so thanks for the complement. I am not as prone to the cognitive dissonance and mindless cult following that others are. Facts don't have tribes.

Musk isn't wrong. But in context Trumps name was named for things, but not the pedo stuff.  This was already covered years ago and the fake news ran with it until the truth was discovered and it was nothing like usual.

You are correct, had Trump been with Ep doing pedo stuff, it would have been released years ago and he would have lost support for his elections.

You assume that if the files contained Trump doing pedo stuff it would have been released, that is not a statement of fact.

You calling me MAGA makes no sense after Flapp saying I have TDS multiple times. You guys need to coordinate your messaging a little better.

No one wants a bad economy so by that definition democrats are MAGA too. If you are saying that anyone who wants America to be good is MAGA then sure, almost everyone is MAGA, but the phrase is synonymous with Trump. When I use MAGA I am referring to the Trump tribe, not merely anyone who wants America to be good.

I used the word tribe instead of MAGA supporters because there is a split, people who supported both when they were together now have to pick the Trump tribe or the Musk tribe.

You say I don't have a side as if it were a bad thing. I wear it like a badge of honor so thanks for the complement. I am not as prone to the cognitive dissonance and mindless cult following that others are. Facts don't have tribes.

You thinking that me and Flapp "coordinate" shows once again you're wrong.  You're not being very "objective" as someone can suffer from TDS or be part of the MAGA tribe.  Refer to my economy example.  MAGA tribe was your word not mine.

I know a bunch who want a bad economy, so you saying "no one wants a bad economy" shows how you're wrong again today.

You seem to be fixated on the word "tribe".  If you have a mental thing that prevents you from letting things go, then I apologize for my remark about you and the word tribe when Trump supporters or MAGA supporters is much more accurate. Or if you're trying to use the word "tribe" again so you think you're not wrong for saying "MAGA tribe", then you aren't fooling anyone.  Maybe it's a combo of both the mental thing and trying to backtrack.

I'm sure you think many things are an "honor" in your mind.

You assume that if the files contained Trump doing pedo stuff it would have been released, that is not a statement of fact.

It's called logic, which by your post shows the lack of.  It isn't hard once you let your ego go. For years, the fake news have tried to make a story out of anything and including making stuff up. 

What you're asking me to do is have the security clearance to read all the unredacted files to see if Trump was in there and there was talk about him doing pedo stuff.  If you think that I have this type of clearance to make a statement of fact, then you are wrong as I am not in the government or associated with it who have access to the files.

If I had to pick a side,  I would choose musk.   He's better than trump. 

I recon it's all theatre.

To what end though? Stocks in Musk's companies have taken a dive, Musk is being touted by democrats, the spat could cost Trump in congressional races, etc. I don't see how it would make sense to just be a show.

You thinking that me and Flapp "coordinate" shows once again you're wrong.

  That was a joke.

You're not being very "objective" as someone can suffer from TDS or be part of the MAGA tribe.  Refer to my economy example.  MAGA tribe was your word not mine.

You are using MAGA to describe a different group than I am. That is fine as long as we understand how we are using the terms otherwise we end up talking past each other.

I know a bunch who want a bad economy, so you saying "no one wants a bad economy" shows how you're wrong again today.

What Americans want a bad economy? Anarchists?

You seem to be fixated on the word "tribe".  If you have a mental thing that prevents you from letting things go, then I apologize for my remark about you and the word tribe when Trump supporters or MAGA supporters is much more accurate. Or if you're trying to use the word "tribe" again so you think you're not wrong for saying "MAGA tribe", then you aren't fooling anyone.  Maybe it's a combo of both the mental thing and trying to backtrack.

I'm sure you think many things are an "honor" in your mind.

I am not "fixated" on the word tribe, it is a word used to describe a specific thing within psychology and sociology. I use the word repeatedly since the discussion is about tribal behaviors. I say MAGA tribe because I am referring to a specific group of people. If I only said "tribe" then you wouldn't know which group I was talking about.
You seem fixated on the word tribe if you are taking issue with my use of the word, maybe you don't understand the concept of tribalism?

It's called logic, which by your post shows the lack of.  It isn't hard once you let your ego go. For years, the fake news have tried to make a story out of anything and including making stuff up. 

What you're asking me to do is have the security clearance to read all the unredacted files to see if Trump was in there and there was talk about him doing pedo stuff.  If you think that I have this type of clearance to make a statement of fact, then you are wrong as I am not in the government or associated with it who have access to the files.

No, its more like confirmation bias, you like that conclusion because it supports your support of Trump.
One could just as easily argue it is logical that the officers who know the contents of the Epstein list are honorable employees and wouldn't do anything so illegal and/or unethical as releasing confidential information.

It is perfectly fine to say you believe that Trump isn't mentioned as a suspect because you believe someone would have leaked it but it would be factually incorrect to say it as a factual statement. Your belief isn't illogical or even unreasonable, in fact I considered the same angle but it isn't some proof Trump isn't mentioned in any way negatively.

If I had to pick a side,  I would choose musk.   He's better than trump.

Same.
There is a fair amount to criticize about Musk (drug use, questionable fathering of his children, etc) but I think Musk is much more honest, principled and less egocentric than Trump. 

So Elon implies Trump is a kid diddler yet he continued to work with and praise Trump, but he’s “principled” 😂

Good job Brystont1 cutting to the chase here about the core nature of this “sudden and Irreconcilable” rift.

It’s not plausible in the ordinary course of things.

Musky knew about hideous Epstein things in Trump’s past, but was happy to be point man for Trump?  Always goin to the ice cream parlor and sharing a sundae, all lovey dovey hand in hand?

Then all of a sudden Musky is recoiling in horror that his BFF was Epstein’s assistant crack whore?

Not plausible = theatre for Musky to work his way out from being a political target of virtually all the people who buy Teslas.  He needs a big shaft of daylight running through there.

Anyway, speaking of megalomaniacs, Musky had ZERO to economically gain by assuming the outsized public role in DOGE, but he had much to loose business-wise.  Being a megalomaniac cost him.  He’s not as good at it as DJT.

Unsurprisingly the two leftists on the forum chose Elon. I never trusted him to begin with.

Unsurprisingly the two leftists on the forum chose Elon. I never trusted him to begin with.

Yeah.  He’s a bit of a karma chameleon ain’t he.

What Americans want a bad economy? Anarchists?

I am not "fixated" on the word tribe, it is a word used to describe a specific thing within psychology and sociology. I use the word repeatedly since the discussion is about tribal behaviors. I say MAGA tribe because I am referring to a specific group of people. If I only said "tribe" then you wouldn't know which group I was talking about.
You seem fixated on the word tribe if you are taking issue with my use of the word, maybe you don't understand the concept of tribalism?

We have seen many dnc supporters who wanted trump to do bad in his 1st term and then supported all the bad decisions brandon did when he took over. They arent anarchist.

For the 2nd part, re read my post. Its very clear. Thanks for playing.



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