Israel vs Iran (Read 9628 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2025, 10:21:13 AM »
I hope Iran's leadership and infrastructure get's blown to kingdom come and the people of Iran revolt and form a new government.

The people of Iran for the most part want to get rid of all those asshat leaders of theirs.

Then the world can concentrate on Pakistan and do the same to them.  I'm sure the Pakistani people are sick of their leaders also.  F*ckers were saying they wanted to nuke Israel.

Just the idea of using nukes makes Pakistan leaders PLICKS.  (Chinese accent for ding-a-ling)

I saw a bunch celebrating after the first missile strike.

hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2025, 10:24:25 AM »
On the bright side at least we know that the iron dome tech doesn't work on hypersonics

That will save us half a trillion building a golden dome that would be obsolete before it even breaks ground
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changemyoil66

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2025, 10:41:10 AM »
On the bright side at least we know that the iron dome tech doesn't work on hypersonics

That will save us half a trillion building a golden dome that would be obsolete before it even breaks ground

What if we already have the tech?  Space force created for a reason and Trump mentioning our future "dome".

hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2025, 11:10:23 AM »
Another interesting perspective from the conspiracy theorists:

USS Nimitz is heading over to the Persian Gulf. That would make two battle carrier groups in a single region which isn't normal.

The Nimitz is scheduled to be decommissioned in 2026, likely to be a very expensive procedure with lots of asbestos abatement.

It's possible that there is a plan for Israel to false flag the Nimitz in order to suck us into the war.

It's not like they don't have plenty of experience with this sort of thing.

Remember the USS liberty?
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zippz

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2025, 07:07:57 PM »
On the bright side at least we know that the iron dome tech doesn't work on hypersonics

That will save us half a trillion building a golden dome that would be obsolete before it even breaks ground

The actual iron dome only protects against short range rockets.  Israel has intercepter missiles for ballistic missiles.  The US ships in the area are also helping to take down ballistic missiles.  It's not 100% effective.

Extremely expensive stuff.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2025, 08:40:03 PM »
The actual iron dome only protects against short range rockets.  Israel has intercepter missiles for ballistic missiles.  The US ships in the area are also helping to take down ballistic missiles.  It's not 100% effective.

Extremely expensive stuff.
i've seen people saying Israel's iron dome essentially makes rocket attacks against them a non-issue.  As if there's no threat from missiles, so any counter-attack is unjustified.

That's like saying it's okay to shoot cops because they wear body armor.
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hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2025, 09:21:26 PM »
Is there a military term for "hidden drone swarm" yet?

Two countries have already used them in the past couple weeks and that's a mouthful to say every time.


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zippz

« Last Edit: June 16, 2025, 10:24:43 PM by zippz »

hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2025, 10:37:51 PM »
Interesting video clips in this thread...

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Israel-attack-and-subsequent-wars-News-Only-thread/5-2679590/&page=80
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Israel-has-initiated-pre-emptive-strikes-against-targets-inside-Iran/5-2799396/&page=135

Those are some crazy photos. Looks surreal watching the missiles fly over in Iraq.

Also the targeted assassinations where there's just a hole in the wall and no sign of explosion probably involved the modified hellfire, aka ninja bomb/flying ginsu.

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changemyoil66

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2025, 07:52:17 AM »
Trump states due to Irans threat to Americans that he knows where their leader is.  We have the ability to strike his location and take him out if we want to, but we won't for now. So Iran better be very carful not to injure Americans.

Remember we took out Solemani without any Iranian war.

hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2025, 09:00:06 AM »
It's very curious how Trump is framing this as "we" now.



Also he dismissed the most recent intelligence report by DNI Gabbard very brusquely

He must be aware that this is the most unpopular stance he's ever taken and it risks the mid terms, and yet we know he's definitely not stupid and knows how to play the left.

Is it possible that he is forcing Congress to take back their war powers in a way that it less likely to put him in the sights of a surprise Epstein reveal or Mossad hit squad?
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changemyoil66

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2025, 09:33:29 AM »
It's very curious how Trump is framing this as "we" now.



Also he dismissed the most recent intelligence report by DNI Gabbard very brusquely

He must be aware that this is the most unpopular stance he's ever taken and it risks the mid terms, and yet we know he's definitely not stupid and knows how to play the left.

Is it possible that he is forcing Congress to take back their war powers in a way that it less likely to put him in the sights of a surprise Epstein reveal or Mossad hit squad?

That is interesting why he chose to use "we" and not "Israel ahs total control".  Would he also be talking about the Saudi's who have been shooting Iran drones down too? 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2025, 10:02:36 AM »
It's very curious how Trump is framing this as "we" now.



Also he dismissed the most recent intelligence report by DNI Gabbard very brusquely

He must be aware that this is the most unpopular stance he's ever taken and it risks the mid terms, and yet we know he's definitely not stupid and knows how to play the left.

Is it possible that he is forcing Congress to take back their war powers in a way that it less likely to put him in the sights of a surprise Epstein reveal or Mossad hit squad?

Alternately, could it be that it's been recently assessed that Iran actually now has nuclear capability, which can be fitted to their existing hypersonic missile systems?

Frankly, I think it's silly to assume that after 30+ years of working on this, the Iranians DON'T have nuclear weapons.

All the glib talk of their compliance strikes me as ridiculous given who that regime is.

Also, Obama did everything he possibly could to give them 100% cover to proceed for years, with Kerry the Fairy being the supplicating bag man, who basically humped the Ayatollah's leg till it was raw, and then they threw him out.

If so, all this urgent aggression toward them would certainly make sense, along with Trumps public statements.

Having said all that, of course I trust not one bit the Israelis nor our entrenched neocon warhawks.

So ultimately, I just think it's a mistake, going into this, to assume that Teheran's nuclear threat is forever out there in some future which can never arrive, which seems to me to be the baseline paradigm people tend to apply here.
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macsak

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2025, 10:59:26 AM »
how does it kill without a warhead?
just kinetic damage?

Those are some crazy photos. Looks surreal watching the missiles fly over in Iraq.

Also the targeted assassinations where there's just a hole in the wall and no sign of explosion probably involved the modified hellfire, aka ninja bomb/flying ginsu.


hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2025, 11:11:54 AM »
how does it kill without a warhead?
just kinetic damage?

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2025, 12:25:12 PM »
how does it kill without a warhead?
just kinetic damage?
if only an information superhighway existed ...

Go to time mark 6:45 for the R9X Ninja version of the Hellfire.

https://youtu.be/WjQCnsmqYKI?si=b80yB6UFyS0NgFlR
« Last Edit: June 17, 2025, 12:31:46 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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changemyoil66

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2025, 01:38:52 PM »
Tulsi is speaking out against the US getting involved in a regime change.

I guess this shows that he isn't surrounded by "yes men".
« Last Edit: June 17, 2025, 01:45:05 PM by changemyoil66 »

macsak

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2025, 01:57:32 PM »
no focus...

if only an information superhighway existed ...

Go to time mark 6:45 for the R9X Ninja version of the Hellfire.

https://youtu.be/WjQCnsmqYKI?si=b80yB6UFyS0NgFlR

hvybarrels

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2025, 07:43:13 PM »
how does it kill without a warhead?
just kinetic damage?

This is what it looks like when it goes into a building.



And a car




https://www.twz.com/31812/americas-shadowy-sword-wielding-hellfire-missile-has-migrated-to-the-afghan-battlefield
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zippz

Re: Israel vs Iran
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2025, 07:48:53 PM »
This is what it looks like when it goes into a building.

They got Ginsu'd