Sig is run by bad people (Read 1017 times)

macsak

Sig is run by bad people
« on: June 19, 2025, 01:42:12 PM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sig is run by bad people
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2025, 03:58:26 PM »
I keep reminding myself that the P320 was SIG's first striker-fired handgun and has been produced since 2014.

After 10+ years, one would have hoped they would be quick to address any safety concerns seeing how safety was one of Glock's top concerns in a striker-fired pistol.

Maybe SIG was unable to match Glock's safety features without being sued for stealing their design?  No idea.  But, It's starting to appear as if SIG is only hurting themselves more and more as time goes on.  The more P320s they sell, the greater the chance that someone dies from an unintended discharge.  At that point, all the money made on military and law enforcement sales will vanish if anyone can prove the company knew of the design flaws and refused to correct them or replace the P320 with a safer model.

I was a SIG fan before the P320, and I loved my P320 when it first came out.  But now, it's apparent that the company isn't responding to discharge reports with an open mind.  They have too much at stake with the number of P320 variants they've sold.  Admitting to a safety flaw could cost hundreds of millions for a recall.

Reputation is supposed to be more important than stock prices and profits.  The longer this is an issue, the worse their reputation suffers.

Something has to give. It's just a matter of time as to whether or not SIG is found to be right or wrong about their P320.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Sig is run by bad people
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2025, 11:53:16 AM »
Admitting to a safety flaw could cost hundreds of millions for a recall.



I thought they already addressed this and fixed the future models?  I don't own a SIG, so I'm not too into the SIG news.

I have tried various pistols like the P320, P226, P228 etc...and none are comfortable in my hand.  They all felt awkward when using.  But on my search for my 1st 1911, the SIG Scorpion was 1st draft choice, but none available, so I went with the Colt M45.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sig is run by bad people
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2025, 12:06:19 PM »
I thought they already addressed this and fixed the future models?  I don't own a SIG, so I'm not too into the SIG news.

I have tried various pistols like the P320, P226, P228 etc...and none are comfortable in my hand.  They all felt awkward when using.  But on my search for my 1st 1911, the SIG Scorpion was 1st draft choice, but none available, so I went with the Colt M45.

Addressed <> solved.

I sent My P320 into SIG for the free trigger "upgrade.'  They were careful to call it a voluntary upgrade program, not a recall.

When i first bought it, the trigger actually had an audible 'click' when you dry fired it.  After the upgrade, the 'click' was gone.  Also, the trigger itself was replaced with a lighter, flatter version.  Part of the problem with drop-firing was supposed to be due to the weight of the trigger creating enough inertia upon impact to bring the trigger backward enough to fire.  A lighter trigger part seems to be more of a workaround than a fix.

None of that addresses the reports of the gun firing when holstering or drawing from a holster, or when getting out of a vehicle while the gun is holstered.  SIG, like most manufacturers, will dismiss it as possible user error if they are unable to duplicate the problem.

I truly believe the real problem is the lack of travel in the trigger.  Most pistols have a certain amount of take-up before the trigger actually engages the hammer or striker mechanism.  My P320 has no take-up.  As soon as you put any amount of pressure on the trigger, it's already engaged.  Without some amount of take-up, there's no 'safety margin" if the trigger is accidentally snagged on something.  Until I see some testing regarding this "feature", i will be less than certain they've addressed the actual causes.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw