What do the people want. (Read 3970 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2025, 09:22:13 AM »
In my opinion the LEFT simply doesn't want to admit that legally armed citizens and citizen soldiers (National Guard) equals less crime.

Criminals are pukes looking for opportunity.  When you deny them the opportunities (vulnerable society) then like the f*ckn cowards that they are, they will slink back into the sh*tholes they came from.

Guys like that mayor and governor of Chicago doesn't want to fix society's problems.  If they do, then no money from Big Brother comes in so they can spend it on other things.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2025, 11:48:09 AM »
Firing on unarmed screeching hippies => not good

Firing on looting, burning, evil flying Antifa butt-monkeys => ?

National Guard troops were being pelted by rocks.  Orders to disperse were completely
ignored.  When verbal orders failed, the NGs tried tear gas, but the canisters fell short
of the protestors and only forced them back a short distance.  Additional verbal orders
to disperse were ignored or mocked.

The troops them moved in closer and tried the tear gas again.  That's when the students
started throwing rocks.
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After repeatedly failing to disperse the crowd, a group of 96 National Guard troops from
A Company and C Company, 145th Infantry, and Troop G, 107th Armored Cavalry, were
ordered to advance. The guardsmen had their weapons "locked and loaded" (according
to standard Ohio National Guard rules) and affixed with bayonets. Most carried M1 Garand
rifles, with some also carrying .45 handguns, a few carrying shotguns with No. 7 birdshot
and 00 buckshot[citation needed] munitions, and one officer carrying a 22 Beretta handgun.
[50] Before advancing, Company C was instructed to fire only into the air
and for only a single guardsman to fire.
It is unknown whether the other two
National Guard groups received any instructions about firing.[45]
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Twenty-eight National Guard soldiers fired about 67 rounds over 13 seconds,
killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom sustained
permanent paralysis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

With every failure the military experiences, they try to develop a list of lessons learned in order to not make the same mistakes in the future should similar circumstances arise.

As I said, this failure has not been repeated in over half a century.  If anything, the exact opposite has been the norm as we watch rioters burn, destroy, injure and kill with little to no intervention on the part of LE or the military.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2025, 03:04:57 PM »
Since the NG has been deployed (going from memory)

0 murders
84% reduction in car jackings
46% reduction in assaults

There's more, but I can't remember.

It is undeniable they are having a positive effect but their mission has a 30 day limit from what I understand. I hope we don't go right back to the old numbers when their deployment is done.

macsak

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2025, 03:43:19 PM »
a simple search would have told you otherwise...
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+long+is+national+guard+deployment+in+washington+dc

It is undeniable they are having a positive effect but their mission has a 30 day limit from what I understand. I hope we don't go right back to the old numbers when their deployment is done.

macsak

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2025, 03:46:16 PM »

macsak

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2025, 03:48:45 PM »
along with many things that explain how and what their duties are in DC
https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/IF/PDF/IF11768/IF11768.1.pdf

but you would rather just assume what you know from your HPD experiences and what you assume...

other searches would have told you the rules of engagement and leo duties they can do
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/what-troops-in-washington-can-do/

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2025, 03:59:40 PM »
along with many things that explain how and what their duties are in DC
https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/IF/PDF/IF11768/IF11768.1.pdf

but you would rather just assume what you know from your HPD experiences and what you assume...

We choose truth over facts!
-- Resident Joe Biden

It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble.
It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.

-- Anonymous
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2025, 05:43:53 PM »
I wonder if the NG even has bullets. When 9/11 happened, the NG at the airport had empty rifles. 1 CO carried all the ammo in a backpack.  THis is for HNL, IDK about other airports.

I will assume the FBI walking around have bullets.

eyeeatingfish

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2025, 10:39:35 AM »
along with many things that explain how and what their duties are in DC
https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/IF/PDF/IF11768/IF11768.1.pdf

but you would rather just assume what you know from your HPD experiences and what you assume...

I made no assumptions. The 30 day thing came from the news. When reading further about the DC Home Rule Act I see it wasn't a specific limit on the guard rather the federal control of the DC Police. Guess I conflated two aspects of the story 

macsak

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2025, 11:46:50 AM »
please show me where i said you were assuming the 30 days...

I made no assumptions. The 30 day thing came from the news. When reading further about the DC Home Rule Act I see it wasn't a specific limit on the guard rather the federal control of the DC Police. Guess I conflated two aspects of the story

macsak

Re: What do the people want.
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2025, 04:29:53 AM »
so you have nothing
got it...

please show me where i said you were assuming the 30 days...