I Want My EBT (Read 4212 times)

astroboy

I Want My EBT
« on: October 29, 2025, 08:09:59 AM »
Welfare mom via multiple baby daddies brought in over $10k per month until she could not.
She also gets to drive a BMW and has her own social media channel.
Dan has another great report on social assistance abusers who now have to work.


QUIETShooter

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2025, 08:39:34 AM »
Welfare mom via multiple baby daddies brought in over $10k per month until she could not.
She also gets to drive a BMW and has her own social media channel.
Dan has another great report on social assistance abusers who now have to work.




I gave your post a like, astro, not because I enjoyed the content.  But because you are spot on as far as the abuse of the system.  And it infuriates me to no end.

It needs to be fixed.  The current administration needs to implement some kind of vetting system so people who really need it get as much help as possible while those who are milking the system gets called out and kicked out.  Plain and simple.

Whether these people truly are in need or whether they are gaming the system shamelessly, my heart goes out to ALL children who go hungry. :(
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2025, 10:09:59 AM »
This is how to make America great again.
Sadly, I worked for 5 decades and some of my tax money went to these scammers.
What, Me Worry?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2025, 11:17:44 AM »
My mother told me a story a long time ago of when she had gone to the grocery store that morning.  There was a very large black woman in front of her checking out.  She was buying 3 times the groceries my mom was.  When she tried to pay with her food stamps, the clerk said he'd have to have cash for the 3 cartons of cigarettes she had.  After trying to argue for a minute, she pulled a $50 bill from her purse for the smokes and left.  As my mom walked out, she saw the woman leave in what looked like a new or new-ish Cadillac.  This was in the 70s, so Cadillacs were not very common.

People have been gaming government entitlement programs for many decades.  Hearing about it now just means government has yet to stop the fraud, waste and abuse which is the hallmark of most government social programs.

I don't even get mad anymore, and I don't blame the people who are milking the system.  i chalk it up to incompetence and laziness in government being an undeniable fact of life.  if anyone ever finds a way to plug those leaks in ALL gov't programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, WIC, housing subsidies, utility subsidies, cell phone subsidies, school lunch programs, Obamacare, ...... -- we'd be able to balance the budget and have money left over to eventually pay off the national debt.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Lihikai

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2025, 12:26:18 PM »
This story rings true for me.  In the early 80s I worked in a small local supermarket.  The welfare Moms would make small purchases (like a pack of gum) with food stamps and use the change to buy cigarettes - a pack cost about $1 back then. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2025, 01:32:12 PM »
This story rings true for me.  In the early 80s I worked in a small local supermarket.  The welfare Moms would make small purchases (like a pack of gum) with food stamps and use the change to buy cigarettes - a pack cost about $1 back then.
Eventually, EBT cards were able to stop that practice.

Of course, now the small markets working the scam will take an EbT card, ring up the entire value for food, then give the beneficiary maybe half or less that amount in cash.  The store then gets the full reimbursement amount PLUS a handling fee, and the card user gets some cash for their drug of choice or whatever.  And the store can sell the food they pretended to sell and get paid again for it.

There was a case in China Town of a grocery store lady  (owner?) getting arrested in the morning for that, then she got arrested again in the afternoon for the same thing.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2025, 01:40:33 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2025, 01:50:26 PM »
States need to do audits and not be lazy.  I went to Kaimuki High School and the Palolo Housing kids went here too.  I would often go to the housing when hanging at a friends house.  On many occassions, I saw their parents car which was a BMW or Benz with rhuge rims.  So I asked about it and they said it's under their grandmas name.  Some had $12K karakoke machines in their home.  But cars was the big one. So on paper, they look poor enought to qualify for the housing, but their parents worked cash jobs and made money.

Some had the housing under the poor grandparents name who's on fixed income, but the kid and their parents lived in the home as well.  It was small, but that means the parents don't have to pay rent to another place as they can live with the grandparents for cheap/free.

Then when I worked at Times Kaimuki, same thing with food stamps and nice BMW's w/rims and blasting the sounds in the parking lot. All the cashiers knew who was scamming the system.

So using the examples above, what could be done is audit the grandma and see how she's able to afford the expensive car and her own stuff.  Target all the nice cars is 1 way.  This would take much more effort than just saying "fill out this form and show me your tax return".

I haven't actually ever lived off of the above, so IDK the true process, but it appears that not enough is being done to combat fraud.  So refer to my "show me your tax return" example.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2025, 01:56:58 PM »
States need to do audits and not be lazy.  I went to Kaimuki High School and the Palolo Housing kids went here too.  I would often go to the housing when hanging at a friends house.  On many occassions, I saw their parents car which was a BMW or Benz with rhuge rims.  So I asked about it and they said it's under their grandmas name.  Some had $12K karakoke machines in their home.  But cars was the big one. So on paper, they look poor enought to qualify for the housing, but their parents worked cash jobs and made money.

Some had the housing under the poor grandparents name who's on fixed income, but the kid and their parents lived in the home as well.  It was small, but that means the parents don't have to pay rent to another place as they can live with the grandparents for cheap/free.

Then when I worked at Times Kaimuki, same thing with food stamps and nice BMW's w/rims and blasting the sounds in the parking lot. All the cashiers knew who was scamming the system.

So using the examples above, what could be done is audit the grandma and see how she's able to afford the expensive car and her own stuff.  Target all the nice cars is 1 way.  This would take much more effort than just saying "fill out this form and show me your tax return".

I haven't actually ever lived off of the above, so IDK the true process, but it appears that not enough is being done to combat fraud.  So refer to my "show me your tax return" example.
I did some research for a social studies paper on welfare fraud.  I came to the conclusion that if the recipients put as much time and effort into a job and education as they did learning how to take advantage of all the welfare programs available, we'd only be supporting the truly needy while increasing the tax base.

Of course, that would mean the welfare queens having 5+ kids from as many baby-daddies would have to pay for babysitting and not be at home all day watching TV and doing whatever it is they want or need to.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2025, 02:10:36 PM »
I did some research for a social studies paper on welfare fraud.  I came to the conclusion that if the recipients put as much time and effort into a job and education as they did learning how to take advantage of all the welfare programs available, we'd only be supporting the truly needy while increasing the tax base.

Of course, that would mean the welfare queens having 5+ kids from as many baby-daddies would have to pay for babysitting and not be at home all day watching TV and doing whatever it is they want or need to.

I had an idea, what if their kids were taken away and given to those who want to adopt?  But the next problem would be they would have even more kids and there is no ending of the cycle.

People are raised to depend on the government and not on themsleves or to be responsible.  How many in say Japan have 5 kids and are on some kind of state assistance?

We need a harsh system. After 5 years, you're cut off.  As there is zero incentive to come off of welfare if you're not a responsible person.

I'll use myself as an example. I do want more kids, but I don't want to be on welfare or to not be able to do things that cost money.  So as of now, 1 child is enough financially.

hvybarrels

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2025, 02:57:51 PM »
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2025, 03:22:27 PM »
I had an idea, what if their kids were taken away and given to those who want to adopt?  But the next problem would be they would have even more kids and there is no ending of the cycle.

People are raised to depend on the government and not on themsleves or to be responsible.  How many in say Japan have 5 kids and are on some kind of state assistance?

We need a harsh system. After 5 years, you're cut off.  As there is zero incentive to come off of welfare if you're not a responsible person.

I'll use myself as an example. I do want more kids, but I don't want to be on welfare or to not be able to do things that cost money.  So as of now, 1 child is enough financially.
There was one article i read about a single mom living in NYC.  She got a full time job, found a sitter she could trust, had to pay for food, rent, transportation to/from work, and was actually making less than she was given in welfare before she started working again.

Now some other person is basically raising her child, and she's too tired at night to have any real quality time with her son. 

So, when you look at quality of life, why NOT live off the government?  Be home for your son,  take care of the home during the week and have free time on the weekends for doing something special?  When it comes to single parents, it's attractive.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2025, 03:40:42 PM »
I recall an article a long time ago addressing the endless cycle of dependence on government assistance.

The article highlighted how parents teach their children how to game the welfare system once they become adults.

I was listening to a Timcast podcast today talking about how some of these welfare queens went on social media threatening to rob shoppers of their groceries if their SNAP benefits get cut off.

The guest speaker talked about how in the past, welfare recipients would quietly go about their business, knowing that the people who were going to work were the ones paying into the system that gave them foodstamps and other assistance.

Now he is aghast as to how these welfare queens act nowadays; all entitled, arrogant, and shameless.  No respect for the very people feeding their fat faces and big asses.

What was troubling was these people were planning to target shoppers as they left the store and headed to their cars.

One of these black asses on social media kept taunting "Whatchu gonna do?  Whatchu gonna do?"  Timcast said quietly "You're gonna get shot......" :rofl:

I commented in the COMMENTS section:  To the person who kept taunting whatchu gonna do: FAFO.

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

astroboy

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2025, 06:40:19 PM »
In addition to targeting welfare cheats the Trump admin is also going after the people who got pandemic relief funds using false info. 
Some of these people took the money and spent thousands on expensive cars, vacays, property, etc. They also padded their
applications with 100's of fake employees. Well it's time to pay the piper.

I recall my late brother in law telling me about a man who he had to interview for a police report. At the end of the conversation
the man told him he is always at home and he sees everything in the hood. My BIL asked him if he had a job. The dude told him:
"Eh I no need work, I third generation welfare.. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2025, 01:33:51 PM »
One thing that kept coming up in my research is whether or not subsidies for food can ever truly be stopped.

So, government gives, say, $500/month to a single occupant household for food.  It can only be used for food items that qualify for the SNAP program. 

WIC is a another supplemental nutrition program for Women, Infants and Children, but that wouldn't be included in this example.  WIC has stricter guidelines as to what and how many of each food item can be purchased in a given period as a way of making sure infants, children and their mothers are getting more than sugary breakfast cereals, Pop Tarts, sodas, chips and fruit roll-ups in their diet.

So, back to the example.  The recipient gets $500 and spends it on reasonably healthy fresh meats and vegetables, dairy products, a few convenience items like canned soups, Hamburger Helper and sandwich ingredients.

The retailer takes $500 from the EBT card in however many visits in the month, and the government reimburses the grocer for the cost.  When food stamps were paper coupons, the grocers also received a small handling fee to cover costs associated with the redemption process.  Not sure if that's the case with the electronic EBT cards now.  My guess is the state might get money for administering the program, but electronic EBT transactions don't seem to be very labor-intensive for retailers.

The food that was sold on EBT is the same food that would be sold for cash or credit.  That means the store ordered that food from their suppliers and distributors the same as they would all their food.

In turn, the producers are able to sell their produce, and the companies that process the foods are as well, because the demand for their products remains above what it might be if everyone had to choose to shop within their own budget.

So, production remains steadily high, prices remain relatively stabile, and quantities and selection at the store remain plentiful.

What happens when former EBT-paying customers start choosing the least expensive chickens, hamburger, pot roasts and pork chops because they can no longer afford steak, fresh seafood or the more expensive organic varieties of fruits, vegetables and meats?

Obviously, the demand will shift.  Retailers will make less without gov't subsidies enabling "higher quality" choices by those shoppers, which in turn means the distributors, suppliers, producers and prcessors will also make less.

This trickles down into the labor force, transportation costs (fuel/oil), and eventually the tax revenues collected for those states which do charge sales tax on most/all food purchases.  No retailer can collect sales tax on qualifying food bought with SNAP/WIC.

It's a complicated and broad circle.  Can farmers and ranchers continue to provide the same quantity and quality if prices drop too much due to decreased demand?  Will restaurants have to raise prices in order to procure the quality of ingredients they are used to offering?  Can parents afford to have fresh veggies with each dinner, or will it be processed, prepackaged, frozen or canned?  We used to have a garden every year with about 6-7 vegetables to lower our food bill and have fresh, organic items we grew ourselves.

Anyway, it's something to think about.  Can we afford to stop the EBT program on Nov 1 without having taken the time to analyze the impact on the economy and especially those who might depend now on those government EBT dollars to keep them productive in order to supply what everyone not on EBT buys and at the same prices?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2025, 02:21:17 PM »
I wonder how many SNAP recipients who stocked up on Halloween candy using
benefits are taking it back to the store this week so they can buy food?

 :geekdanc:   
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2025, 04:28:56 PM »
Some political analysts are saying that Trump will announce at the very last minute (tomorrow the 31st.) that he has "found" funds to keep EBT flowing.

Trump will be touted by his administration as the hero of the country who did everything he can for the truly vulnerable amongst us, along with the fat-ass gamers and their BMW's with bling-bling and neglected children with shit filled diapers.

It will put the final nail on the coffin of his arch enemy, the democrats and paint the party as the inept, corrupt, and self-serving pukes that they are.

And when that emergency funding runs out Trump will round up all the EBT users and send them to NYC where their newly elected Mayor gives free everything to everybody.

Then he will build a wall around the city.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

ren

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2025, 05:04:07 PM »
Some political analysts are saying that Trump will announce at the very last minute (tomorrow the 31st.) that he has "found" funds to keep EBT flowing.

Trump will be touted by his administration as the hero of the country who did everything he can for the truly vulnerable amongst us, along with the fat-ass gamers and their BMW's with bling-bling and neglected children with shit filled diapers.

It will put the final nail on the coffin of his arch enemy, the democrats and paint the party as the inept, corrupt, and self-serving pukes that they are.

And when that emergency funding runs out Trump will round up all the EBT users and send them to NYC where their newly elected Mayor gives free everything to everybody.

Then he will build a wall around the city.

#racist #fascist# #nazi #antisemite #xenophobe
Deeds Not Words

ren

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2025, 03:12:05 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/media/snap-beneficiaries-threaten-ransack-stores-over-government-shutdown

SNAP beneficiaries have expressed outrage on social media over the government shutdown that could affect their grocery benefits starting next month, and some are even threatening to ransack stores if food stamp payments don’t go through starting Nov. 1.

"It is the taxpayer’s responsibility to take care of my kids," one emotional mother said in a video posted online. "It is the taxpayer's job to pay for my kids to eat and for my kids to be taken care of."

The same woman also complained about how none of her TikTok followers had sent her money, warning she would block anyone who viewed her videos without sending cash.

"Because of the government shutdown, now I can’t get my SNAPs for next month," another user shared on social media.

The user went on to ask how she was supposed to feed her seven children.

"I have seven different baby daddies and none of ‘em no good for me," she said.
Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2025, 03:21:14 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/media/snap-beneficiaries-threaten-ransack-stores-over-government-shutdown

The user went on to ask how she was supposed to feed her seven children.

"I have seven different baby daddies and none of ‘em no good for me," she said.
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Yeah but she was quick to spread da legs.  Every.  Single.  Time.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2025, 03:42:24 PM »
Yeah but she was quick to spread da legs.  Every.  Single.  Time.

if she's smart, she'll go door-to-door tonight and at least have some quick energy snacks for free.

I have the perfect costume for her, too.  Snow Night and the 7 Dependents.

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 :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw