I Want My EBT (Read 4217 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2025, 03:55:44 PM »
if she's smart, she'll go door-to-door tonight and at least have some quick energy snacks for free.

I have the perfect costume for her, too.  Snow Night and the 7 Dependents.

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    /^\

 :geekdanc:

Lol!  But yeah, I was thinking that tonight, besides it being a Friday, will be exceptionally busy.  Not only will there be children trick or treating, but there will also be baby mamas trick or treating also.  Extra candy is better than nothing, which will be a reality in a couple of hours as EBT is history as of midnight tonight.

Lots of hyper children (and adults) tomorrow.  More apparent than normal as the sugar high kicks in and stays longer than usual. :rofl:

My brother called me to say that he bought me a big bag of halloween candies to hand out tonight so he wanted me to drop by to pick it up.

I told him I think he should hold on to it because the bag he bought for himself might not be enough.

Heaven forbid he gets mugged by the baby mamas because he ran out or worse, gets caught just handing one candy each to each trick or treater. :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2025, 03:56:25 PM »
Who's the most equitable of them all?

Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

astroboy

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2025, 08:31:09 AM »
Matt Walsh has a great video on this subject and others.
3/4th of Americans on food stamps are over weight or obese.
It reminds me of the lyrics from the song by Oliver Anthony.
"If you're 5ft 3 and you're 300 lbs., taxes ought not to pay for your bag of fudge rounds."
Its a 50 minute video but its worth watching.


https://youtu.be/4a5w5ZXUpq4?t=135

Rocky

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2025, 08:31:58 AM »

"What happens when former EBT-paying customers start choosing the least expensive chickens, hamburger, pot roasts and pork chops because they can no longer afford steak, fresh seafood or the more expensive organic varieties of fruits, vegetables and meats?"

Steak, fresh seafood or the more expensive organic varieties of fruits, vegetables and meats become less expensive for the rest of us.
Supply and demand.
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macsak

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2025, 09:51:57 AM »
demographics at sam's club this morning were "different"...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2025, 10:20:37 AM »
Steak, fresh seafood or the more expensive organic varieties of fruits, vegetables and meats become less expensive for the rest of us.
Supply and demand.
I would agree if the shutdown was expected to last through Dec 2026.

In the short 1-2 months I expect this to go on, the supply will adjust to create an artificial shortage, then make it up with increased production during the holidays -- when shoppers will be buying the $200+ prime rib roasts and the $20/lb Alaskan King Crab Legs.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2025, 06:18:39 PM »
Some political analysts are saying that Trump will announce at the very last minute (tomorrow the 31st.) that he has "found" funds to keep EBT flowing.

Trump will be touted by his administration as the hero of the country who did everything he can for the truly vulnerable amongst us, along with the fat-ass gamers and their BMW's with bling-bling and neglected children with shit filled diapers.

It will put the final nail on the coffin of his arch enemy, the democrats and paint the party as the inept, corrupt, and self-serving pukes that they are.

And when that emergency funding runs out Trump will round up all the EBT users and send them to NYC where their newly elected Mayor gives free everything to everybody.

Then he will build a wall around the city.
…. and the win goes to Mr. Quiet, for correctly anticipating that Trump would seize their “Trump Says Let Them Eat Cake” food riots out of their filthy hands

“On Friday, Trump wrote on Truth social following McConell's ruling "I do not want Americans to go hungry," adding " ask the Court to clarify how we can legally fund SNAP as soon as possible. . . . If we are given the appropriate legal direction by the Court, it will BE MY HONOR to provide the funding."

Well done sir!

Strategy is  e v e r y t h I n g !

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-praises-trump-over-snap-funding-sets-monday-deadline-payments
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2025, 10:03:15 AM »
Latest updates I've seen ....

Two courts have issued injunctions saying Trump must fund SNAP with the money Congress gave him last year in the SNAP emergency fund.

One problem is the courts are telling him to do something he may not have the authority under the law to do -- a law passed by Congress.

So, can a judge order the president to go against congress?  I don't think that's part of the checks and balances in our government.  Otherwise, congress  has no power.  A court can negate every law made by congress and every action made by any president if this is the case.

The order by one judge also set a deadline of Monday, Nov 4th, for Trump to fund SNAP.  Today is Monday, Nov 3rd.  Obviously whoever made the order doesn't have a current calendar handy.  That discrepancy would be another way Trump can challenge the ruling.

If Trump decided, "Screw it all!  I'm going to fund SNAP for the next 3 months, and with monies Congress gave me for emergency SNAP benefits in the event of a disaster."  That's still not enough to give 100% of SNAP entitlements to all beneficiaries.  They would have to give partial SNAP supplement payments, which is almost impossible given the administrative and accounting systems in place.

Hawaii announced a $42.2M plan to give all SNAP recipients in the state $250 on their EBT.  For some, that's enough to make it to the end of Nov.  For others, it's nowhere close to the amount they receive monthly for their household.

What Gov. Green didn't say is whether that $250 will be taken back once the federal dollars arrive.  In other words, if you get $750/month from the federal program, the next EBT benefits you get might be reduced by $250, so you only get $500 in order to pay back the state.  Or, on the other hand, will that $42.2M be a bonus for recipients on top of the SNAP benefits that you are owed since Oct 1?  Details, details.  I doubt the state will sit idly by while recipients get paid that $250 twice.  i'm just curious what the plan is and whether this will be done again in Dec, ... if the shutdown drags on and on.

Tomorrow is election day.  I dont see the Democrats holding out longer than the end of this week.  Nothing to be gained by continuing the shutdown.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2025, 11:06:52 AM »
the decision has already been made to do half
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6384472407112

Latest updates I've seen ....

Two courts have issued injunctions saying Trump must fund SNAP with the money Congress gave him last year in the SNAP emergency fund.

One problem is the courts are telling him to do something he may not have the authority under the law to do -- a law passed by Congress.

So, can a judge order the president to go against congress?  I don't think that's part of the checks and balances in our government.  Otherwise, congress  has no power.  A court can negate every law made by congress and every action made by any president if this is the case.

The order by one judge also set a deadline of Monday, Nov 4th, for Trump to fund SNAP.  Today is Monday, Nov 3rd.  Obviously whoever made the order doesn't have a current calendar handy.  That discrepancy would be another way Trump can challenge the ruling.

If Trump decided, "Screw it all!  I'm going to fund SNAP for the next 3 months, and with monies Congress gave me for emergency SNAP benefits in the event of a disaster."  That's still not enough to give 100% of SNAP entitlements to all beneficiaries.  They would have to give partial SNAP supplement payments, which is almost impossible given the administrative and accounting systems in place.

Hawaii announced a $42.2M plan to give all SNAP recipients in the state $250 on their EBT.  For some, that's enough to make it to the end of Nov.  For others, it's nowhere close to the amount they receive monthly for their household.

What Gov. Green didn't say is whether that $250 will be taken back once the federal dollars arrive.  In other words, if you get $750/month from the federal program, the next EBT benefits you get might be reduced by $250, so you only get $500 in order to pay back the state.  Or, on the other hand, will that $42.2M be a bonus for recipients on top of the SNAP benefits that you are owed since Oct 1?  Details, details.  I doubt the state will sit idly by while recipients get paid that $250 twice.  i'm just curious what the plan is and whether this will be done again in Dec, ... if the shutdown drags on and on.

Tomorrow is election day.  I dont see the Democrats holding out longer than the end of this week.  Nothing to be gained by continuing the shutdown.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2025, 11:34:47 AM »
the decision has already been made to do half
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6384472407112

Sounds like a waste of time.  If the delay in getting the partial entitlements to recipients is "weeks or months," a budget will probably be in place by then, and anything they did to facilitate the partial payments will have to be reversed.  Getting a bill passed is not a guarantee, and we are talking about getting Democrats to stop voting against the budget bill without the billions of new spending they are demanding.  But, with the election out of the way, they lose any positive effect they might see coming out of the shutdown.  If military and furloughed employees continue without pay, it only gets worse for the Dems.

One big deal with this bandaid solution is that new SNAP applicants who aren't already entitled to the benefit will not be included in the partial disbursement.  That probably includes a lot of furloughed employees and those in critical positions still working and not getting paid.
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The Trump administration has committed to partially fund SNAP with $4.65 billion,
which will cover about half of the benefits for eligible households in November.

However, due to procedural difficulties, it may take weeks or even months for these
reduced benefits to be distributed to recipients.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-partially-fund-snap-months/story?id=127138175

SNAP benefits will restart, but will be
half the normal payment and delayed

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The Trump administration says it will restart SNAP food benefits but it
will pay out only half the amount people normally get.

The administration says it will use money from an Agriculture Department
contingency fund. The $5 billion in that fund falls well short of the full cost
of SNAP benefits — $8 billion — each month. In a court filing, officials said
depleting that fund means "no funds will remain for new SNAP applicants
certified in November, disaster assistance, or as a cushion against the
potential catastrophic consequences of shutting down SNAP entirely."
.....
The administration warns there could be lengthy delays before benefits get
into the hands of low-income families who depend on SNAP to put food on
the table.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/03/nx-s1-5596121/snap-food-benefits-trump-government-shutdown
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2025, 12:18:43 PM »

   "I doubt the state will sit idly by while recipients get paid that $250 twice." 
 

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :popcorn:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2025, 10:01:24 AM »
Alexander Fraser Tytler was a teacher and scholar in 1800s Scotland.  He reportedly said:
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A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until
the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.

From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the
most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses
over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations
have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual
faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From
abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/108530-a-democracy-cannot-exist-as-a-permanent-form-of-government
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2025, 11:02:02 AM »
Alexander Fraser Tytler was a teacher and scholar in 1800s Scotland.  He reportedly said:https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/108530-a-democracy-cannot-exist-as-a-permanent-form-of-government

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years"

Oh Oh.........
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2025, 11:19:07 AM »
"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years"

Oh Oh.........

And he 3rd Reich waned 1000 years. Lose guys were nuts.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2025, 02:54:37 PM »
No reason to be nervous about the SNAP situation.  Just get what you want and walk out of the store without paying. 

Why are all these videos of SNAP-related thefts black women?

One woman went to a nice White neighborhood to steal, because they have fewer Loss Prevention problems (hence fewer loss prevention measures & people).  She just loaded up her cart and walked out all the while recording herself.

The more i see of these people posting these kinds of videos, the more I have to nod and say, "No wonder you can't find a good-paying job.  You're a moron!"




Then this woman displays everything she took while complaining the stuff costs too much.  Why the hell would the stuff NOT cost too much with all the theft that's going on?  People who pay for what they take are subsidizing those who of you don't pay.  Stores are not in business to lose money, and shoplifting costs them money.  Duh!!

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2025, 03:20:52 PM »
Looks like enough democrats caved.

In the meantime we can’t unsee there’s something very wrong with the EBT system
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2025, 05:37:13 PM »
Looks like enough democrats caved.

In the meantime we can’t unsee there’s something very wrong with the EBT system
It's like other welfare or entitlement programs.  Once you get someone hooked, it's very difficult to get them to improve their situation when it means losing their government subsidies.

This is the main holdup with the shutdown.  COVID-era ACA/Obamacare subsidies were increased.  That means someone maybe paying previously $150/month for a healthcare plan was now paying around $15-$20/month.  With the sunsetting of those COVID-era additional subsidies, millions will find it difficult, if not impossible, to afford the premiums, annual deductibles and co-pays.

In a nutshell, the Affordable Healthcare Act made costs skyrocket, which made Dems nervous, especially after Obama told the nation that if you trusted what he told you without checking, that's your own damn fault.  With the additional emergency subsidies, the ACA actually became affordable, but now that's about to go away and return to the old "Affordable my ass!" rates.

This is why the Dems needed to cram their ACA  proposals to extend COVID subsidies into the budget for another year.  I doubt the subsidies will survive any real debate in the Senate.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2025, 02:13:27 PM »
From what i can tell, Federal USDA SNAP benefits were loaded onto EBT cards on Friday last week, Nov 7.

Then Hawaii's announced payment to all recipients was loaded today, Nov 10.

Interesting, since the actual bill is still making its way through the Senate and the House, then to Trump for signature.

The $250 HI SNAP benefit was a stop-gap measure for just our state's recipients and came from the state's funds.

Maybe Trump trusts the bill will be passed now, and there's no reason to withhold benefits due to not having a CR.

I find it interesting nobody is saying how the funding was used without a CR.  Maybe Trump is being set up for another impeachment?  Misappropriation of federal funds?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2025, 02:37:18 PM »
I have never heard or saw on social media any EBT recipients who were thankful. ALmost all say its "their" benefit. I "deserve" this. No thanks to the working middle class families whose income were diverted. No gratefulness.
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Re: I Want My EBT
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2025, 02:46:07 PM »
I have never heard or saw on social media any EBT recipients who were thankful. ALmost all say its "their" benefit. I "deserve" this. No thanks to the working middle class families whose income were diverted. No gratefulness.
Animals routinely show gratitude, but not these things.
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