Venezuela (Read 10757 times)

hvybarrels

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2026, 07:21:12 PM »
Theres speculation that Maduro agreed to the extraction due to the low level of military defense even by Venezuelan standards and taking the wife with him.  Family members are left behind in these situations. So the military offensive may have been a cover for him to save face.

Nick: are you going to try me in Miami where they hate my guts?

Don: no. Southern district of New York thats run by your fellow communists, and Ive got my most loyal cover up artist working on charges that we can also use to weaken the second amendment.

Nick: deal!

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

ren

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2026, 08:02:42 PM »
Nick: are you going to try me in Miami where they hate my guts?

Don: no. Southern district of New York thats run by your fellow communists, and Ive got my most loyal cover up artist working on charges that we can also use to weaken the second amendment.

Nick: deal!



Correction:


Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2026, 08:15:04 PM »
Pam is still in charge overall, and the judge is a whole different can of worms…

https://www.newarab.com/news/judge-who-blocked-trump-gaza-deportations-oversee-maduro-case

Somehow the people who meticulously planned this precision military op failed to account for the the basic elements of the trial. Something doesn’t add up.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

changemyoil66

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #63 on: January 05, 2026, 09:12:14 AM »
Ven is complaining that Maduro's guards were "executed" during the raid by our forces.  I guess the ROE should have been to ask politely to let us take your dictator.

hvybarrels

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2026, 11:50:39 AM »
My concern is not as much about the moral implications as the fact that China will now see this as the ultimate justification to take Taiwan, putting Hawaii back on the front line again for the first time since Pearl Harbor
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

changemyoil66

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2026, 12:42:59 PM »
My concern is not as much about the moral implications as the fact that China will now see this as the ultimate justification to take Taiwan, putting Hawaii back on the front line again for the first time since Pearl Harbor

China would have to create a reason to take their president.  Like how the US determined Maduro was involved with drugs.

Sane people can agree supporting drug cartels are bad and warrant a removal.  But if China uses the "one China" reason to remove Taiwans president, then that won't fly well.

And even with that, their citizens won't accept the CCP, so an invasion/occupation would have to take place.  You won't see thousands of Taiwanese citizens celebrating if their president is removed from office by China.

On a side note, I got to be about 30 feet from the Taiwan president precovid.  We were eating dinner and she showed up.  I was wondering why there were added security for the hotel.  It wasn't like US security, but more than a hotel woudl have.  As in cops hanging out.   They didn't even have metal detectors or searching bags.  I was able to just walk into the venue like normal.  Her detail also wasn't watching the crowd, but instead facing her and watching her give her speech.  Compared to the US detail who are facing the crowd and scanning.  Below is a pic that I took, she's next to the red pillar on the right speaking.  The 2 in the black jacket are part of her detail.

The point of the above is if China did want to take Taiwans president, Taiwan has to ramp up their protection.

hvybarrels

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2026, 01:03:59 PM »
China would have to create a reason to take their president.  Like how the US determined Maduro was involved with drugs.

Flimsy pretexts are a dime a dozen. There’s no international order any more, and the only law that remains is “might makes right”. All governments have to do now is to convince their own populations to keep paying taxes and prepare to sacrifice themselves for a bunch of elite psychopaths who will run and hide in their Zuckerbunkers at the first sign of trouble.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

changemyoil66

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2026, 03:24:22 PM »
Flimsy pretexts are a dime a dozen. There’s no international order any more, and the only law that remains is “might makes right”. All governments have to do now is to convince their own populations to keep paying taxes and prepare to sacrifice themselves for a bunch of elite psychopaths who will run and hide in their Zuckerbunkers at the first sign of trouble.

Well to be fair, China has never won a war. So even if they did invade Taiwan, odds are against them. For now, China won't do anything as they know Trump is no push over.  If they do plan an invasion, they would wait till we have a weaker leader.

hvybarrels

Re: Venezu
« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2026, 05:37:17 PM »
Well to be fair, China has never won a war. So even if they did invade Taiwan, odds are against them. For now, China won't do anything as they know Trump is no push over.  If they do plan an invasion, they would wait till we have a weaker leader.

The Chinese approach so far has been Athens vs Sparta where they destroy the superior military force from the inside with corruption. That’s why so many shitlibs are melting down at the moment pretending to care about international law, but the real cause of their tears is that Venezuela was a major hub for their bribe networks. China is waiting for the right set of predetermined conditions to start a blockade on Taiwan, most likely under a USD/bond market collapse when our international influence has completely diminished. Under a rain of hypersonic missiles our obsolete navy is useless and most of our conventional munitions have been burned up in Ukraine. The Chinese used infiltration to maneuver us into this predicament, and while Trumpian wild card stunts have bought us a little extra time the rest of the world is scrambling to unload US debt now that our desperate measures have demonstrated that US hegemony is disintegrating.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

ren

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2026, 05:39:24 PM »
Well to be fair, China has never won a war. So even if they did invade Taiwan, odds are against them. For now, China won't do anything as they know Trump is no push over.  If they do plan an invasion, they would wait till we have a weaker leader.

Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2026, 08:49:30 PM »
Literally got caught laundering Chinese money and influence peddling. Still walking around free.

But at lest we got Maduro, right?

This TV show sucks

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

changemyoil66

Re: Venezu
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2026, 08:02:03 AM »
The Chinese approach so far has been Athens vs Sparta where they destroy the superior military force from the inside with corruption. That’s why so many shitlibs are melting down at the moment pretending to care about international law, but the real cause of their tears is that Venezuela was a major hub for their bribe networks. China is waiting for the right set of predetermined conditions to start a blockade on Taiwan, most likely under a USD/bond market collapse when our international influence has completely diminished. Under a rain of hypersonic missiles our obsolete navy is useless and most of our conventional munitions have been burned up in Ukraine. The Chinese used infiltration to maneuver us into this predicament, and while Trumpian wild card stunts have bought us a little extra time the rest of the world is scrambling to unload US debt now that our desperate measures have demonstrated that US hegemony is disintegrating.

China has been using economic warfare against us for decades. This way they have more pull.  Made in China, hoarding our $100 bills, etc...This doesn't cost lives like how an invasion/attack would.

Like the cartels, China knows all they have to do is wait till Trumps term is completed.

QUIETShooter

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2026, 09:36:52 AM »
Well to be fair, China has never won a war. So even if they did invade Taiwan, odds are against them. For now, China won't do anything as they know Trump is no push over.  If they do plan an invasion, they would wait till we have a weaker leader.



Not only weak but complicit, corrupt, and evil.  But according to Oldfarts pic she has enormous saggy boobs. ;D
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

GlockNewb

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2026, 09:51:53 AM »
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

ren

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2026, 10:36:36 PM »
hmmm....
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/4409165/fetterman-hypocrite-democrats-maduro-arrest/
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/10/world/americas/biden-bounty-nicolas-maduro.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-biden-administration-raised-184600558.html

U.S. presidential actions against Maduro

On March 8, 2015, then-President Barack Obama signed Executive Order 13692 declaring a national emergency to deal with the threat Venezuela's government represented to the U.S. Maduro had been president for two years at that point. Obama, targeting the Venezuelan government, imposed sanctions on people involved in anti-democratic actions in the country, actions that violated human rights and freedom of expression, as well as people guilty of public corruption. Obama also banned them from entering the U.S.
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #75 on: January 08, 2026, 07:09:45 AM »
Venezuela will probably be a PITA for years given the mountainous terrain and large narco commie community.
Aside from Russian and Chinese meddling there's also all the bad blood from the United Fruit Company and all the other deep state massacres over the years.
We may have forgotten about our mistreatment of the region but they certainly haven't.

On the other hand we would be doing Albert and Greenland a huge favor. The only problem is finding space on the flag for the extra stars.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

QUIETShooter

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #76 on: January 08, 2026, 08:37:48 AM »
OK.  So who's paying for this bounty?  I figure American taxpayers.

And who reaps the bounty?  In this case, was it President Trump?

I don't understand.

But I'm not gonna lose sleep on it.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2026, 10:50:48 AM »
OK.  So who's paying for this bounty?  I figure American taxpayers.

And who reaps the bounty?  In this case, was it President Trump?

I don't understand.

But I'm not gonna lose sleep on it.

Trump stated since they got him with no help, no one is getting it.

I mean, he could techincally claim it and liberals heads would melt.

hvybarrels

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #78 on: January 09, 2026, 02:11:33 AM »
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

hvybarrels

Re: Venezuela
« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2026, 10:26:52 AM »
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.