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Enough...
« on: November 27, 2025, 01:35:08 PM »
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Re: Enough...
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2025, 01:59:32 PM »
Speaking of “enough,” here’s Steven Cheung of the White House replying to a traitor in DC using the terrorism she supports to attack Trump and the National Guard.

Can’t be said enough: You can’t have a free country or a civil society with them in it.  Let’s step-up the clean-up!

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Re: Enough...
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2025, 10:59:43 AM »
Speaking of “enough,” here’s Steven Cheung of the White House replying to a traitor in DC using the terrorism she supports to attack Trump and the National Guard.

Can’t be said enough: You can’t have a free country or a civil society with them in it.  Let’s step-up the clean-up!

https://x.com/StevenCheung47/status/1993834793969037818?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1993834793969037818%7Ctwgr%5Ecd5504a6e01584409dda40b99dd9219d55a12e41%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fwhite-house-tells-reporter-shut-fk-saying-national-guard-should-never-have-been-dc

I propose that the Administration gives us citizens legal immunity when we aid the national guard and ICE officials as they carry out their legal duty.

Whether we tip them off about suspected illegal stronghold locations or help officers while they are getting assaulted by protestors as they are carrying out their duty. This includes immunity from our local George Soros sponsored district attorneys and judges who would love nothing more than to fry us if we so much as spit at one of their radical protestors.

I want these freeloading criminals gone; I voted for them to be gone and if these stupid droogs get in the way of that, I would like to feel emboldened enough to give them a piece of my mind! The left clearly wants violence and I would like to be the one who gets to deliver to them the FAAFO they deserve!


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Re: Enough...
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2025, 01:04:28 PM »
I propose that the Administration gives us citizens legal immunity when we aid the national guard and ICE officials as they carry out their legal duty.

Whether we tip them off about suspected illegal stronghold locations or help officers while they are getting assaulted by protestors as they are carrying out their duty. This includes immunity from our local George Soros sponsored district attorneys and judges who would love nothing more than to fry us if we so much as spit at one of their radical protestors.

I want these freeloading criminals gone; I voted for them to be gone and if these stupid droogs get in the way of that, I would like to feel emboldened enough to give them a piece of my mind! The left clearly wants violence and I would like to be the one who gets to deliver to them the FAAFO they deserve!
Over 77 million of us, including majorities in every swing state, voted as you, I, and certainly most others here on 2a (regardless of personal feelings about Trump himself), did - for exactly this:  To stop and reverse the hostile foreign invasion of our country orchestrated by the Marxists infesting and seeking to overthrow our country.

The tragedy here is that they believe we can be intimidated by their assaults and violence in defense of their war on America.

It’s a tragedy because their read is exactly backwards!

Every treasonous act they commit as we try to reestablish the rule of law in our country confirms to us that this is a fight to the death - there is only one possible direction it can go at this point.

They are slitting their own throats.

Everyone who is anti-communist feels as you do, and that’s literally everyone but them.
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Re: Enough...
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2025, 01:41:31 PM »
66% of Americans support deporting illegal immigrants:

“Detailed findings

1. Two-thirds of Americans support deporting immigrants who are in the country illegally. However there is very little support for deporting legal immigrants.

Sixty-six percent support deporting immigrants who are in the country illegally. Republicans (93%) are more likely to show support than Democrats (43%) and independents (67%).

Few Americans (11%) support deporting immigrants who are in the country legally.”


https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-support-deporting-immigrants-who-are-us-illegally
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Re: Enough...
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2025, 05:13:49 PM »
Unfortunate situation. If the story is true, he deserved to be here as he worked in battle with our forces.

I wonder how many afgans are vetted and come here, then commit crimes.

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Re: Enough...
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2025, 05:26:16 PM »
Unfortunate situation. If the story is true, he deserved to be here as he worked in battle with our forces.

I wonder how many afgans are vetted and come here, then commit crimes.
We can't let "worked with our government or military" be a single reason for them to live in the US.

How many double agents in the past have pretended to be friends of one country only to use their new 'friendships' to gain access to information and equipment that helps their own country?

Muslims are more likely to be in that camp than non-Muslims.  Their religion teaches that it is okay to lie to infidels if it furthers their Muslim causes.  It's their lack of respect for us that makes it acceptable to be deceptive, because in their mind, we deserve it -- you know, us being the big Satan and all.

According to Islam lying is unlawful but with 3 exceptions: 'Asma bint Yazid narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:

“It is not lawful to lie except in three cases:
Something the man tells his wife to please her,
to lie during war, and
to lie in order to bring peace between the people.”
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1938)"

#2 - during war, is of course ambiguous since the Muslims have been at war with the West for centuries.

How does one vet a person for entry into the US when their religious teachings and cultural beliefs make them more likely than not to liewhen they feel it is necessary?
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Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Re: Enough...
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2025, 08:39:07 PM »
We can't let "worked with our government or military" be a single reason for them to live in the US.

How many double agents in the past have pretended to be friends of one country only to use their new 'friendships' to gain access to information and equipment that helps their own country?

Muslims are more likely to be in that camp than non-Muslims.  Their religion teaches that it is okay to lie to infidels if it furthers their Muslim causes.  It's their lack of respect for us that makes it acceptable to be deceptive, because in their mind, we deserve it -- you know, us being the big Satan and all.

According to Islam lying is unlawful but with 3 exceptions: 'Asma bint Yazid narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:

“It is not lawful to lie except in three cases:
Something the man tells his wife to please her,
to lie during war, and
to lie in order to bring peace between the people.”
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1938)"

#2 - during war, is of course ambiguous since the Muslims have been at war with the West for centuries.

How does one vet a person for entry into the US when their religious teachings and cultural beliefs make them more likely than not to liewhen they feel it is necessary?
I also come at the issue same the way Mr. changemyoil66 does: “Unfortunate situation. If the story is true, he deserved to be here as he worked in battle with our forces.”

But Mr. Flap you are right.
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Re: Enough...
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2025, 09:05:54 PM »
Afghanistan is an interesting country.  Never been truly conquered.

It's like the people are never truly happy unless they are fighting. 

There's a video out there by a Marsoc Marine who served under JSOC and did 8 tours in Afghanistan. He said the scariest part of the work he did was working alongside these Afghan soldiers working for the CIA.

He said incidences of these Afghan soldiers "turning" against their US counterparts were too numerous to mention.
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Re: Enough...
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2025, 10:04:21 PM »
Afghanistan is an interesting country.  Never been truly conquered.

It's like the people are never truly happy unless they are fighting. 

There's a video out there by a Marsoc Marine who served under JSOC and did 8 tours in Afghanistan. He said the scariest part of the work he did was working alongside these Afghan soldiers working for the CIA.

He said incidences of these Afghan soldiers "turning" against their US counterparts were too numerous to mention.
Yes, it seems well-confirmed that they should just be left alone with their sheep, with neighboring countries having shoot-to-kill border policies, and all airports within the country itself obliterated.

That might work.
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changemyoil66

Re: Enough...
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2025, 07:27:58 AM »
We can't let "worked with our government or military" be a single reason for them to live in the US.

How many double agents in the past have pretended to be friends of one country only to use their new 'friendships' to gain access to information and equipment that helps their own country?

Muslims are more likely to be in that camp than non-Muslims.  Their religion teaches that it is okay to lie to infidels if it furthers their Muslim causes.  It's their lack of respect for us that makes it acceptable to be deceptive, because in their mind, we deserve it -- you know, us being the big Satan and all.

According to Islam lying is unlawful but with 3 exceptions: 'Asma bint Yazid narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:

“It is not lawful to lie except in three cases:
Something the man tells his wife to please her,
to lie during war, and
to lie in order to bring peace between the people.”
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1938)"

#2 - during war, is of course ambiguous since the Muslims have been at war with the West for centuries.

How does one vet a person for entry into the US when their religious teachings and cultural beliefs make them more likely than not to liewhen they feel it is necessary?
Word is he went on raids with SF. So im sure they vet more than just ur regular ANA guy whos at a gate manning a post.

But blue on green does happenn often enough where its a concern. Even in the SF community.

What im getting at is this guy deserves more considsration to come here than some other guy whos not being shot at whos behind a desk and has no weapon.

So ur correct abt a single reason, but his reason should have more pull than others.

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Re: Enough...
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2025, 09:37:52 AM »
Word is he went on raids with SF. So im sure they vet more than just ur regular ANA guy whos at a gate manning a post.

But blue on green does happenn often enough where its a concern. Even in the SF community.

What im getting at is this guy deserves more considsration to come here than some other guy whos not being shot at whos behind a desk and has no weapon.

So ur correct abt a single reason, but his reason should have more pull than others.

That's a very subjective standard.  You want to rely on a bureaucrat to vet a Muslim immigrant based on what?  Team mate written testimonials?  The immigrant's word that he's a friend of America?  His history of helping the Americans take out people he may already hate or oppose?  That would fall under "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," not "I will fight with the Americans because I believe in their cause."

You're using emotional criteria.  How do you know he was ever shot at?  Was he ever in a fire fight that he helped win while putting himself in danger?

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Lakanwal, 29, entered the U.S. in 2021 through Operation Allies Welcome, a Biden
administration program that evacuated and resettled tens of thousands of Afghans
after the chaotic U.S. withdrawal from the country, officials said.

The initiative brought roughly 76,000 people to the U.S., many of whom had worked
alongside U.S. troops and diplomats as interpreters and translators. The program has
drawn intense criticism from President Donald Trump and other Republicans over what
they have argued are gaps in the vetting process and the speed of admissions.
...
Prior to his arrival in the United States, the suspect worked with the U.S. government,
including the CIA, “as a member of a partner force in Kandahar,” John Ratcliffe, the spy
agency’s director, said in a statement.

Ratcliffe did not specify what work Lakanwal did, but said the relationship “ended shortly
following the chaotic evacuation” of U.S. servicemembers from Afghanistan.

A resident of the eastern Afghan province of Khost who identified himself as Lakanwal’s
cousin said Lakanwal was originally from the province. The cousin, who spoke to The
Associated Press on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals, said Lakanwal had worked
in a special Afghan Army unit known as Zero Units.

Zero Units were paramilitary units manned by Afghans but
backed by the CIA and also served in front-line fighting with CIA paramilitary officers. Activists
had attributed abuses to the units. They played a key role in the chaotic U.S. withdrawal from
the country, providing security around Kabul International Airport as the Americans and
others fell back during the Taliban offensive that seized the country.

The cousin said Lakanwal started out working as a security guard for the unit in 2012, and
was later promoted to become a team leader and a GPS specialist.

A GPS Specialist is basically a map maker/technician who verifies the accuracy of GPS and GIS information being used.

I don't see anything in this story that says he was shot at.  Nor do I see anything that says he was shooting at insurgents or terrorists.

I didn't have time to read every single article that a web search provided, so if you have anything more detailed about the job/s he did in Afghanistan that benefitted our mission there, please post so I can take a look.  If not, then I wonder where you are getting the impression:

"What im getting at is this guy deserves more considsration to come here than some other guy whos not being shot at whos behind a desk and has no weapon."

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Re: Enough...
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2025, 11:30:22 AM »
The reason veterans get benefits is so that we don’t have a bunch of unhinged killers going mad from social isolation and causing chaos. A lot of these Afghans were extremely loyal until our government abandoned them. We should stick to our promises and take care of the people who supported us while sending away those who just want to take advantage.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Enough...
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2025, 02:23:16 PM »
There's a movie that came out a while back called The Covenant.

Pretty interesting movie about an Army Sergeant and his Afghan counterpart.  It's a fictional story but the content was derived from many testimonies from US Soldiers and the bonds and close relationships that were formed during the conflict.

Basically the story is about a US Soldier and his Afghan counterpart being ambushed and the soldier being severely wounded.  The story opens up where it looks like the Afghan has a questionable demeanor as far as his loyalty to the US.

Turns out this Afghan soldier was extremely loyal to his US counterpart, and a large portion of the movie shows him mentally and physically exhausted as he struggles to bring the US soldier to rescue and safety, all the while hiding him from the Taliban looking for them and enlisting friendly neighbors to help him.

When he finally succeeded in bringing his friend to the safety of US forces, he somehow was abandoned while the severely injured soldier was sent home.

The US soldier encountered bureaucratic obstacles in trying to bring his friend to the US while the movie shows his friend in Afghanistan constantly hiding himself and his family from the Taliban looking for him.  Meanwhile all this time he had faith that his American friend did not forget him and that one day he will come to bring him out of the country.

The movie ends with the soldier going back to Afghanistan to find his friend and bring him to the US.

The reason veterans get benefits is so that we don’t have a bunch of unhinged killers going mad from social isolation and causing chaos. A lot of these Afghans were extremely loyal until our government abandoned them. We should stick to our promises and take care of the people who supported us while sending away those who just want to take advantage.

I believe in this also.  The horrors of war affects all soldiers.  What happened in DC could have been a Green Beret, A Navy Seal, or countless other veterans from all services.  War is Hell.

I don't know what to make of what happened in DC.  One thing I do know:

biden was an incompetent piece of shit.




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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Enough...
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2025, 02:52:26 PM »
[snip]

I believe in this also.  The horrors of war affects all soldiers.  What happened in DC could have been a Green Beret, A Navy Seal, or countless other veterans from all services.  War is Hell.

I don't know what to make of what happened in DC.  One thing I do know:

biden was an incompetent piece of shit.

I think you do know.  The withdrawal should have been done in a more controlled manner, with safeguards left in place to keep the Taliban from taking over -- which is what wound up happening.

The withdrawal was a debacle start to finish.  Should the US now try to make up for that debacle by creating another one?  I think not.

Like my mother always said, what's done is done.  No matter what you do to try and undo something, you will never be able to. 

Integrity is like virginity.  Once you lose it, don't count on ever getting it back.  Without integrity, there is no trust.  Do we really expect someone who fought with honor on our side to be complacent when this country dishonored their efforts?  I don't care how many grunts have stories of interpreters going above and beyond.  The grunts are not the people they blame.  It's America as a whole that betrayed them.  The grunts can't fix the things that were done, nor can they do things to improve those attitudes. 

The withdrawal and the broken promises are historic fact.  The lives, hearts and minds that were lost can't be won back with unrestricted relocation to the US and a weekend at Disney Land. 

Imagine that the DC shooting was based on one man's deep loyalty to the US which was -- in his mind -- betrayed by the clumsy withdrawal and all his countrymen left behind to be captured and killed by the Taliban?  No matter what anyone does and says, the damage is already done.

Do we pretend these people don't harbor ill will toward the US after Biden's idiotic actions?
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Re: Enough...
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2025, 04:49:39 PM »
Sorry to fan the flames here, but remember this Afghan vet in Fairfax?

“You brought me to this f*+king country …. You are a vicious f>€king people”



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QUIETShooter

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2025, 06:57:42 PM »
Thanks for sharing this.  I remember it now.

Interesting that this guy is pissed at this country and everyone in it.  Yet if he was left in Afghanistan, he wouldn't have even seen that day.  Because he would have been dead.  Killed by the Taliban.

Oh well.  He was a dead man walking.  Whether here or over there.

Now his 4 kids......SNAP and welfare for life?  Can they yell "Allahu Akbar"?

The other day I was reading some comments on one of the millions of videos out there about the DC National Guardsmen incident.

One of the commenters joked that the gunman yelled "ALOHA SNACK BAR!!!" :rofl:

Caught me off guard.  I cracked up laughing, farted twice, then went to the bathroom to check my underwear, still giggling. :rofl:
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2025, 09:06:59 PM »
Thanks for sharing this.  I remember it now.

Interesting that this guy is pissed at this country and everyone in it.  Yet if he was left in Afghanistan, he wouldn't have even seen that day.  Because he would have been dead.  Killed by the Taliban.

Oh well.  He was a dead man walking.  Whether here or over there.

Now his 4 kids......SNAP and welfare for life?  Can they yell "Allahu Akbar"?

The other day I was reading some comments on one of the millions of videos out there about the DC National Guardsmen incident.

One of the commenters joked that the gunman yelled "ALOHA SNACK BAR!!!" :rofl:

Caught me off guard.  I cracked up laughing, farted twice, then went to the bathroom to check my underwear, still giggling. :rofl:
Well he’s right about one thing: The DMV of any state is vicious! - I mean this guy was so pissed off he was in another world.

Seriously though, maybe living in Afghanistan is a lot easier than dealing with life in today’s hyper-complicated USA?

Essentially, this guy just can’t function here, and, he felt, was being eaten alive, so much so he wanted to go out shooting at cops.  It does make you wonder.

I knew Vietnamese that were airlifted out during the fall of Saigon, and the were happy and very successful in the USA.

Anyway, I thought it would be good to add him in the mix.
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Re: Enough...
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2025, 05:58:01 AM »
If you neglect your weapon and leave it lying around, someone else will pick it up and use it.
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2025, 07:26:50 AM »
If you neglect your weapon and leave it lying around, someone else will pick it up and use it.
Yeah - just like a man’s soul, brother!

That concludes today’s sermon on Luke 11:24-26.

“When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ On its return, it finds the house swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and brings seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and dwell there. And the final plight of that man is worse than the first.”
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