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ren

surge in robberies
« on: March 03, 2026, 07:48:37 PM »
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/honolulu-robberies-increase-crime/

HPD says to always be aware of your surroundings, report any suspicious activity and maybe even join your neighborhood watch. If you are a victim of a crime, it’s best to just comply.

“There’s no property that’s worth anybody getting hurt or losing their life over,” said Hayakawa. “The best thing that they can do at that point is just become a good witness.”

maybe the surge is attributed to a predictable victim response that is pushed by our civic leaders?

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QUIETShooter

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2026, 07:58:16 PM »
"I going poke yo a$$"

"Oh.  Ok."
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ren

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2026, 08:20:39 PM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on March 03, 2026, 07:58:16 PM
"I going poke yo a$$"

"Oh.  Ok."

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“There’s no property that’s worth anybody getting hurt or losing their life over,” said Hayakawa.
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mrgaf

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2026, 08:21:33 PM »
Fluck HPD….fluck Hayakawa too! Comply my ass! Only thing I’ll comply with is my brain signal telling me to pull the trigger…  :grrr:
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QUIETShooter

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2026, 07:06:56 AM »
Quote from: ren on March 03, 2026, 08:20:39 PM
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“There’s no property that’s worth anybody getting hurt or losing their life over,” said Hayakawa.

Quote from: ren on March 03, 2026, 07:48:37 PM
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/honolulu-robberies-increase-crime/

If you are a victim of a crime, it’s best to just comply.


I'm saying HPD's advice is a carbon copy for ALL crimes.



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hvybarrels

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2026, 07:34:53 AM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on March 04, 2026, 07:06:56 AM
I'm saying HPD's advice is a carbon copy for ALL crimes.

Which is exactly why the problem is about to get a whole lot worse
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stangzilla

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2026, 07:37:34 AM »
and stay strapped
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oldfart

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2026, 08:05:45 AM »
Quote from: ren on March 03, 2026, 08:20:39 PM
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“There’s no property that’s worth anybody getting hurt or losing their life over,” said Hayakawa.
....
Your lawyer friends would tell you the same thing.

Here are my thoughts on the situation....
I keep a few dollars with me all the time just in case some crackheads attack me. The idea is to offer the crackhead some money to go away.
If they take the money and leave, then you just skip your next plate lunch.
If they persist in coming after you, then draw, look for your front sight, and put a couple rounds center of mass then immediately call 911. Then your honest testimony would be, "I offered them money to leave me alone but they kept coming...I was afraid that they were going to kill me."

That's just my opinion.
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Jwall_e808

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2026, 09:17:03 AM »
"Castle Doctrine" (HRS §703-304, §703-305)

Unlawful Entry: The doctrine applies when someone makes an unlawful and forcible entry into your home.

Reasonable Belief: You must reasonably believe that deadly force is necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury to yourself or others, not just to protect property.

Justification for Deadly Force: Deadly force is only justifiable if you reasonably believe it is immediately necessary to protect against:
Death
Serious bodily injury
Kidnapping
Rape or forcible sodomy

All the above is what I'm automatically thinking so unlawful entry into my hale will leave you with unwanted pukas
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2026, 11:20:08 AM »
Quote from: oldfart on March 04, 2026, 08:05:45 AM
....
Your lawyer friends would tell you the same thing.

Here are my thoughts on the situation....
I keep a few dollars with me all the time just in case some crackheads attack me. The idea is to offer the crackhead some money to go away.
If they take the money and leave, then you just skip your next plate lunch.
If they persist in coming after you, then draw, look for your front sight, and put a couple rounds center of mass then immediately call 911. Then your honest testimony would be, "I offered them money to leave me alone but they kept coming...I was afraid that they were going to kill me."

That's just my opinion.

And the civil attorney suing you on behalf of the crackheads' families will say you used that cash to lure them in so you could execute them.

Nothing is ever as black and white as it should be.  We have lawyers to thank (hate) for that!

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Rocky

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2026, 02:44:59 PM »
I've always wondered why "forcible" is "inserted" only there .  :shake:
Aren't they all pretty much "forced ?"

quote author=Jwall_e808 link=topic=58469.msg513450#msg513450 date=1772651823]
"Castle Doctrine" (HRS §703-304, §703-305)

Unlawful Entry: The doctrine applies when someone makes an unlawful and forcible entry into your home.

Reasonable Belief: You must reasonably believe that deadly force is necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury to yourself or others, not just to protect property.

Justification for Deadly Force: Deadly force is only justifiable if you reasonably believe it is immediately necessary to protect against:
Death
Serious bodily injury
Kidnapping
Rape or forcible sodomy

All the above is what I'm automatically thinking so unlawful entry into my hale will leave you with unwanted pukas
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Rocky

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2026, 09:00:12 AM »
Ok, now it's hitting closer to home, within 3/4 mile

 Police investigate armed robbery at Laie Shopping Center...
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/03/02/police-investigate-armed-robbery-lie-shopping-center/

and just the other night, the gas station 50 yards away from this event was robbed/burglarized.
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Kalikikopa

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2026, 02:07:45 PM »
Quote from: ren on March 03, 2026, 08:20:39 PM
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“There’s no property that’s worth anybody getting hurt or losing their life over,” said Hayakawa.

That shouldn't be directed at  property owners, it should be directed at people considering taking someone else's property. My thought is if someone is willing to break the laws of breaking and entering, robbery, and theft, why should I believe they won't break the laws of assault, possibly with deadly force, manslaughter, or murder? With that in mind, I need to protect myself and family. To all politicians, you should be telling criminals not to criminal, not telling law abiding citizens they need to surrender their rights , safety,  property , and possible their life, to the whim of a law breaker.
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zippz

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2026, 06:02:39 PM »
Quote from: Rocky on March 04, 2026, 02:44:59 PM
I've always wondered why "forcible" is "inserted" only there .  :shake:
Aren't they all pretty much "forced ?"

Other cases where there's no threat of violance but entry is unlawful.  Party crashers.  An ex grabbing their personal stuff from your home.  I'm sure theres a lot of other reasons.
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hvybarrels

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2026, 07:45:27 PM »
Quote from: Kalikikopa on March 08, 2026, 02:07:45 PM
That shouldn't be directed at  property owners, it should be directed at people considering taking someone else's property.


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Rocky

Re: surge in robberies
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2026, 07:25:33 AM »
Quote from: zippz on March 08, 2026, 06:02:39 PM
Other cases where there's no threat of violance but entry is unlawful. 

  Do you mean "butt entry"
 I was referring to  "forcible sodomy".
I mean aren't Death, Serious bodily injury, Rape and Kidnapping all done by "force" ?
« Last Edit: March 09, 2026, 07:32:20 AM by Rocky »
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